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Greg Dyke's Big Plans

Commentary all over the press, here is one report.

The "B" team idea has already been discussed, and it may be hiding some other better ideas.

But overall I am very disappointed with this, and think Dyke has handled it badly. Looks like I am not the only one to consider that Danny Mills has no place in this process.
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  • Maybe Mills was just doing the catering for the committee.
  • iaitch said:

    Maybe Mills was just doing the catering for the committee.

    :-)

    Hasn't stopped him gobbing off. Don't think he can ever visit Hartlepool for the rest of his life!
  • RoyRoy
    edited May 2014

    Greg Dyke has become a laughing stock in just 24 hours. It just goes to show that they have appointed a man who knows nothing about grass roots and lower league football and more worryingly couldn't care less about it.

    Totally agree @Bedsaddick, yesterday I posted the following thoughts here on Charlton Life before the publication of Greg Dyke's FA Commission report :

    GREG DYKE & HIS FA COMMISSION REPORT http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61873/greg-dyke-his-fa-commission-report?new=1

    Roy Member

    May 8 in Charlton International

    Today Greg Dyke & his FA Commission will issue a report detailing their plans for the future of English football, from grassroots level to the tip of the Premier League, where the super rich moneymen of Manchester City are just one point away from securing their second title in three seasons.

    Here in London my individual Thames Gateway, City Challenge grassroots development case from Deptford where I was born, to Erith where I live, has reached a critical legal juncture with the Independent Police Complaints Commission investigating the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime for trying to bury me and 23 years of FARE case evidence following my discovery of the NF/BNP leadership using the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings in the 1990/91 season. CHRIST HELP US!

    PS It was great to see that planning permission has been granted for Charlton's new training ground complex at Sparrows Lane https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCAFC/posts/642063399194502
  • Just another plan that will benefit the top clubs who will then moan that they cannot give game time to all there young talent because they have just bought another expensive foreign import.
  • When Dyke's FA Commission was set up in the first place there was an almighty row about the total exclusion of black representatives. I have just sent the following email to Troy Townsend at Kick it Out :


    Troy Townsend
    Mentoring & Leadership Project Manager
    Kick It Out | 4th Floor | 1-5 Clerkenwell Road | London | EC1M 5PA

    Tel: 020 7253 0162 Fax: 020 7253 5579


    Dear Troy

    I hope you are keeping well, and I was saddened to hear that your son Andros' injury will keep him out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    I'd like to think that my individual legal case for the defence against NF/BNP entry-ism into London's Sporting/Planning Arena 1991-2014, has played a part in destroying the BNP as a political force at every level. It started with Regina v Hobson 1991, after I had discovered that the BNP leadership were being allowed to use the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings, and recently the IPCC - Independent Police Complaints Commission have backed me to the hilt by overturning the decision by Stephen Greenhalgh the Deputy Mayor for Policing & Crime not to record my complaint against the Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe. The latest non-investigation by MOPAC is currently under the microscope and The Labour Party's Andy Smith of the NUJ Executive has been given full details of the contemporary legal situation http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/06/bnp-british-national-party-european-elections-nick-griffin-andrew-brons

    You will find my latest associated Charlton Life comments here http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61894/greg-dyke-s-big-plans


    Kind regards


    Roy Hobson http://www.mixcloud.com/roy-hobson/ aka "Vesper"
  • Wow. Petition against the B team nonsense has only been up one day and it already has 20,000 signatures

    http://www.againstleague3.co.uk
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  • edited May 2014
    But Dyke will blame the protestors for the issues with the English game (standing in the way of progress). We probably need somebody to make grass root reccomendations that the FA should implement and get signatures for that!
  • But Dyke will blame the protestors for the issues with the English game (standing in the way of progress). We probably need somebody to make grass root reccomendations that the FA should implement and get signatures for that!

    @Muttley. As a result of involvement with the Trust I have got to know a lot more about Supporters Direct. They are a great bunch of people with good ideas, and I think they are far more effective as a national group than are the FSF.

    Yet Greg Dyke never even included them in his list of 650 people and bodies to consult.

  • edited May 2014
    i may have missed this somewhere but has any mention been made by this "commission" about the way kids are coached at grass roots level and beyond?

    a lot of the teams I come across openly admit that they choose big, fast players over smaller, more technically gifted players and that is in a league that is one of the best in the county.

    we also have a severe lack of qualified coaches compared with other countries who may have "B" teams and the like.

    this is not about 18-21 yr old players developing in a "B" team, it goes back to when they are developing at grass roots.

    this is such a short sighted idea and if Dyke seriously thinks this is going to cure our ineptness at world level, then wtf is he doing in charge of this commission?
  • NugNug
    edited May 2014

    With all the ridiculous amounts of money they take from TV rights etc, they may wanna look at lowering the cost of coaching licenses in this country first.

    Top level coaching badge costs around £2500-£3000 compared to around £500-900 in Spain and Germany.

    Agreed should be free at Level 1 and heavily subsidised at Level 2 also
  • Interesting (but short) article on the When Saturday Comes website about how the German and Netherlands B leagues which were introduced have been a complete failure.

    http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1177-may-2014/11441-germany-s-b-teams-have-damaged-lower-league-clubs

    Clearly the FA have not attempted to learn from others mistakes....
  • Roy said:

    When Dyke's FA Commission was set up in the first place there was an almighty row about the total exclusion of black representatives. I have just sent the following email to Troy Townsend at Kick it Out :


    Troy Townsend
    Mentoring & Leadership Project Manager
    Kick It Out | 4th Floor | 1-5 Clerkenwell Road | London | EC1M 5PA

    Tel: 020 7253 0162 Fax: 020 7253 5579


    Dear Troy

    I hope you are keeping well, and I was saddened to hear that your son Andros' injury will keep him out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    I'd like to think that my individual legal case for the defence against NF/BNP entry-ism into London's Sporting/Planning Arena 1991-2014, has played a part in destroying the BNP as a political force at every level. It started with Regina v Hobson 1991, after I had discovered that the BNP leadership were being allowed to use the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings, and recently the IPCC - Independent Police Complaints Commission have backed me to the hilt by overturning the decision by Stephen Greenhalgh the Deputy Mayor for Policing & Crime not to record my complaint against the Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe. The latest non-investigation by MOPAC is currently under the microscope and The Labour Party's Andy Smith of the NUJ Executive has been given full details of the contemporary legal situation http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/06/bnp-british-national-party-european-elections-nick-griffin-andrew-brons

    You will find my latest associated Charlton Life comments here http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61894/greg-dyke-s-big-plans


    Kind regards


    Roy Hobson http://www.mixcloud.com/roy-hobson/ aka "Vesper"

    lolwut
  • Utter tosh of an idea, is this the best we can come up with, no wonder the game is so screwed.
  • Roy said:

    When Dyke's FA Commission was set up in the first place there was an almighty row about the total exclusion of black representatives. I have just sent the following email to Troy Townsend at Kick it Out :


    Troy Townsend
    Mentoring & Leadership Project Manager
    Kick It Out | 4th Floor | 1-5 Clerkenwell Road | London | EC1M 5PA

    Tel: 020 7253 0162 Fax: 020 7253 5579


    Dear Troy

    I hope you are keeping well, and I was saddened to hear that your son Andros' injury will keep him out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    I'd like to think that my individual legal case for the defence against NF/BNP entry-ism into London's Sporting/Planning Arena 1991-2014, has played a part in destroying the BNP as a political force at every level. It started with Regina v Hobson 1991, after I had discovered that the BNP leadership were being allowed to use the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings, and recently the IPCC - Independent Police Complaints Commission have backed me to the hilt by overturning the decision by Stephen Greenhalgh the Deputy Mayor for Policing & Crime not to record my complaint against the Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe. The latest non-investigation by MOPAC is currently under the microscope and The Labour Party's Andy Smith of the NUJ Executive has been given full details of the contemporary legal situation http://www.theguardian.com/politics/20


    14/may/06/bnp-british-national-party-european-elections-nick-griffin-andrew-brons

    You will find my latest associated Charlton Life comments here http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61894/greg-dyke-s-big-plans


    Kind regards


    Roy Hobson http://www.mixcloud.com/roy-hobson/ aka "Vesper"

    lolwut



    Cukkooo
  • Short of state subsidised free beer for life, anything Danny Mills endorses gets a thumbs down from me.

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  • This idiot Dyke may have provided an opportunity for football fans to pressure him into doing things that might improve the England team. He is basically saying, don't criticise this proposal as football needs to do something. Forgetting damage it will do to non league teams, it won't help the England team a jot. Forcing premiership clubs to play more English players, have a fairer academy system so smaller clubs don't get shafted and have more of an incentive to produce talent and more coaches and massive changes to grass roots coaching and approaches will make a diference. Even a village idiot should be able to see what needs to be done- so football fans need to make Dyke put his money where his mouth is and do something that we want and will work . If he won't listen - which he won't because it doesn't suit the big boys - then he should resign - in fact he should resign now - I despise his naivity and stupidness. How can the English game progress with this laughing stock in charge?
  • Roy said:

    When Dyke's FA Commission was set up in the first place there was an almighty row about the total exclusion of black representatives. I have just sent the following email to Troy Townsend at Kick it Out :


    Troy Townsend
    Mentoring & Leadership Project Manager
    Kick It Out | 4th Floor | 1-5 Clerkenwell Road | London | EC1M 5PA

    Tel: 020 7253 0162 Fax: 020 7253 5579


    Dear Troy

    I hope you are keeping well, and I was saddened to hear that your son Andros' injury will keep him out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    I'd like to think that my individual legal case for the defence against NF/BNP entry-ism into London's Sporting/Planning Arena 1991-2014, has played a part in destroying the BNP as a political force at every level. It started with Regina v Hobson 1991, after I had discovered that the BNP leadership were being allowed to use the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings, and recently the IPCC - Independent Police Complaints Commission have backed me to the hilt by overturning the decision by Stephen Greenhalgh the Deputy Mayor for Policing & Crime not to record my complaint against the Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe. The latest non-investigation by MOPAC is currently under the microscope and The Labour Party's Andy Smith of the NUJ Executive has been given full details of the contemporary legal situation http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/06/bnp-british-national-party-european-elections-nick-griffin-andrew-brons

    You will find my latest associated Charlton Life comments here http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61894/greg-dyke-s-big-plans


    Kind regards


    Roy Hobson http://www.mixcloud.com/roy-hobson/ aka "Vesper"

    Seriously?! Absolute scenes.......
  • It does - but Dykes experts missed this and realised that Spain have 'B' teams in their structure - the fact they had 'B' teams when they were more crap than England seems to have been overlooked by these gormless twonks. Funny that Brentford finally got promoted the season this plonker left!
  • I don't understand why they're not pursuing a shadow structure rather than attempting to go in any level 5 in the pyramid. It makes no sense to me whatsoever - what would a young Prem star gain from being kicked from pillar to post by Conference cloggers?

    There's commercial potential in a shadow B league, separate from the pyramid, as well as the potential for it to be competitive. Grab a sponsor, get a TV deal, stick some prize money in there, minimum quota for under 23s and English players in any team. From a squad perspective allow any under-23 year old, anyone not in the 25 man squad and a small named number from the senior squad, and there you have a competitive Prem B league, and probably one worth watching to boot.
  • Roy said:

    When Dyke's FA Commission was set up in the first place there was an almighty row about the total exclusion of black representatives. I have just sent the following email to Troy Townsend at Kick it Out :


    Troy Townsend
    Mentoring & Leadership Project Manager
    Kick It Out | 4th Floor | 1-5 Clerkenwell Road | London | EC1M 5PA

    Tel: 020 7253 0162 Fax: 020 7253 5579


    Dear Troy

    I hope you are keeping well, and I was saddened to hear that your son Andros' injury will keep him out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    I'd like to think that my individual legal case for the defence against NF/BNP entry-ism into London's Sporting/Planning Arena 1991-2014, has played a part in destroying the BNP as a political force at every level. It started with Regina v Hobson 1991, after I had discovered that the BNP leadership were being allowed to use the Old Addeyans FC/Densitron International PLC clubhouse for their malevolent planning meetings, and recently the IPCC - Independent Police Complaints Commission have backed me to the hilt by overturning the decision by Stephen Greenhalgh the Deputy Mayor for Policing & Crime not to record my complaint against the Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe. The latest non-investigation by MOPAC is currently under the microscope and The Labour Party's Andy Smith of the NUJ Executive has been given full details of the contemporary legal situation http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/06/bnp-british-national-party-european-elections-nick-griffin-andrew-brons

    You will find my latest associated Charlton Life comments here http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/61894/greg-dyke-s-big-plans


    Kind regards


    Roy Hobson http://www.mixcloud.com/roy-hobson/ aka "Vesper"

    Well it's been a while since we've seen one of these entryism posts. Welcome back. Still scratching my head, but it's comforting at least.
  • Supporters Summit – We Want You!



    Fans to gather as campaign hots up against League Three proposal



    More information and ticket details have been released about the annual Supporters Summit on the 26th July 2014 at Wembley Stadium, to be hosted jointly by the Football Supporters’ Federation and Supporters Direct.



    The backdrop of the event is the outpouring of anger and frustration felt towards FA Commission proposals that include the introduction of B-Teams and a Feeder League – being referred to as League Three.



    Both SD and The FSF are keen to see this event as the chance for fans to shape their vision for the game, and there will be debate, discussion and workshops focusing on the identity of clubs, the involvement in the running of the game by fans, and the treatment of matchgoing supporters,



    We’ll be asking how identity of clubs can be protected,– highly relevant following the cases involving Hull City and Cardiff City, ‘Away Fans Matter’, continuing the season’s work of the FSF on the campaign, a session on Financial Fair Play in the UK and Europe, and Safety Advisory Groups – the all-seeing, though relatively unknown bodies who make many of the big decisions on matches.

    Successful campaigns are being fought by supporters’ trusts, supporters’ organisations and individual fans on issues as diverse as club ownership, identity, ticket pricing and ‘secondary ticketing’, stadium safety and policing. The focus now moves to England’s national stadium, where fans, members of supporters’ trusts and other groups, will gather to discuss next moves.



    A highly eventful season is now drawing to a close, and the work and campaigns of both organisations has had a great deal of effect on the football landscape. The event will provide an opportunity to discuss the big issues in the game, and meet with likeminded fans.



    A spokesman for SD said:



    “This is we believe a pivotal moment in the life of our national game. In the past 24 hours, we have witnessed an outpouring of anger and frustration about how we as fans are being treated. The fact that we’re barely given a second thought in decisions that directly affect us is sadly nothing new: But we can change that, if we work together.”



    “So we ask you, that if you think that it’s important to safeguard our football pyramid; if you agree with us that what happens to Hull City, Coventry City or Hereford United is important; you agree with the fans of Liverpool, Manchester United, Spurs and Chelsea that our game, at all levels, must make decisions with fans and communities front and centre, then we want you there on July 26th.”



    Kevin Miles, Chief Executive of the FSF, said:



    “We’ve made big strides in the past year thanks to fan activism and that pressure needs to be maintained. Whether it’s the Football League saying “yes” to safe standing or the Premier League’s renewed focus on away fans and the issues they face, there’s clear evidence that supporters can make a difference if we speak with one voice. It’s an exciting time for both the FSF and SD and I’d encourage all fans to come to the Supporters Summit on Saturday 26th July. Get involved.”



    The programme can be accessed at www.supporterssummit.co.uk.

    Places can be booked by visiting https://supporterssummit2014.eventbrite.co.uk


  • Who can afford that

    But most importantly why does it cost that
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