Trust me gents I am Millwall scarred, 1st game I ever saw as a young lad we lost 4-3 at home (Valley) to guess who......................... Since that day only seen 3 other victories over 40 years of pain
They're only 3 pts clear of the relegation zone at the moment having just won back to back games.
Unlike the nigels who always seem to enjoy the full 3 pts moving away by 3 pts every time they win.
Lots to play for yet but I have to admit I think Ipswich and Bolton are already booked in for League One next season while Reading or Rotherham will probably take the last relegation place.
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
They give the freebies away and then count them in the attendance regardless of whether the person with the freebie turns up or not. Most don’t.
Bottom line is, when we’re going through the ringer and things are tough, Millwall and Charlton’s hardcore support is of a very similar size. Only difference is you have more delusions of grandeur, as you spent a fair time in the top flight recently and bussed a load of newbie fans in from the Home Counties with the promise of subsidised travel and cheap tickets. Those fans aren’t hardcore and won’t have the staying power of the more seasoned fan. As you’ve since found out.
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
Yes. I've seen your fans redecorate a few pubs, thoughtfully arrange for some cars to be made ready for the scrap yard and even hasten opposition fans hospital visits. You're all heart
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
They give the freebies away and then count them in the attendance regardless of whether the person with the freebie turns up or not. Most don’t.
Bottom line is, when we’re going through the ringer and things are tough, Millwall and Charlton’s hardcore support is of a very similar size. Only difference is you have more delusions of grandeur, as you spent a fair time in the top flight recently and bussed a load of newbie fans in from the Home Counties with the promise of subsidised travel and cheap tickets. Those fans aren’t hardcore and won’t have the staying power of the more seasoned fan. As you’ve since found out.
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
And there's me thinking nothing could cheer me up today!
My point after a fee beers is please don’t come on here as an away fan and particularly of fuckung Millwall and start giving it. Yes you are as a club where we would like to be and perhaps good luck to you but on the whole fuck off.
Jesus Christ, touched a nerve there ain’t I?? Didn’t even think I was being out of order, but obviously being challenged on the perceived size of your club is a big issue to some of you? God knows why!
Also, made a point of only commenting about Millwall on a Millwall thread. Was I being that unreasonable?
If it bothers you that much I’ll f*** off. Happy new year.
I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
They give the freebies away and then count them in the attendance regardless of whether the person with the freebie turns up or not. Most don’t.
Bottom line is, when we’re going through the ringer and things are tough, Millwall and Charlton’s hardcore support is of a very similar size. Only difference is you have more delusions of grandeur, as you spent a fair time in the top flight recently and bussed a load of newbie fans in from the Home Counties with the promise of subsidised travel and cheap tickets. Those fans aren’t hardcore and won’t have the staying power of the more seasoned fan. As you’ve since found out.
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
I'll accept the fact that yes a lot of our casual fans have drifted away but again you've proven my point when you talk about bussing fans in.
Subsidised tickets and travel or not we only bussed in fans that wanted to come, those fans were not frogmarched onto the busses at gunpoint. All the club did was supply the facilities to meet the demand. The fact you're talking about this as well as our community tickets shows indeed how successful we've been the fact Scally thought we were stealing Gills fans and the fact Millwall fans talk about freebies proves my point.
As for hardcore fan bases if you genuinely believe the core support is about the same as ours I'd suggest a dry January for you
Jesus Christ, touched a nerve there ain’t I?? Didn’t even think I was being out of order, but obviously being challenged on the perceived size of your club is a big issue to some of you? God knows why!
Also, made a point of only commenting about Millwall on a Millwall thread. Was I being that unreasonable?
If it bothers you that much I’ll f*** off. Happy new year.
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Unlike the nigels who always seem to enjoy the full 3 pts moving away by 3 pts every time they win.
Lots to play for yet but I have to admit I think Ipswich and Bolton are already booked in for League One next season while Reading or Rotherham will probably take the last relegation place.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
They give the freebies away and then count them in the attendance regardless of whether the person with the freebie turns up or not. Most don’t.
Bottom line is, when we’re going through the ringer and things are tough, Millwall and Charlton’s hardcore support is of a very similar size. Only difference is you have more delusions of grandeur, as you spent a fair time in the top flight recently and bussed a load of newbie fans in from the Home Counties with the promise of subsidised travel and cheap tickets. Those fans aren’t hardcore and won’t have the staying power of the more seasoned fan. As you’ve since found out.
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
Let’s not forget the scum have had 2(two years) of top flight football in their entire history ...
Our crowds are proper wank now and Millwall have better support which proves how shit we must be to be smaller than them
BBW always seem nice and friendly
MF is just a c**t
Also, made a point of only commenting about Millwall on a Millwall thread. Was I being that unreasonable?
If it bothers you that much I’ll f*** off. Happy new year.
Subsidised tickets and travel or not we only bussed in fans that wanted to come, those fans were not frogmarched onto the busses at gunpoint. All the club did was supply the facilities to meet the demand. The fact you're talking about this as well as our community tickets shows indeed how successful we've been the fact Scally thought we were stealing Gills fans and the fact Millwall fans talk about freebies proves my point.
As for hardcore fan bases if you genuinely believe the core support is about the same as ours I'd suggest a dry January for you
Also, thanks for the kind words.
A significant proportion of Millwall fans are neanderthals, in fact a higher proportion than most clubs - but they are not all like that.