The people who claim RD was playing mind games with Powell, trying to dictate teams and tactics and so on, only to suddenly stop as soon as Riga walks through the door are letting their understandable dislike of RD colour their perceptions far too much. If RD wanted Powell gone from the beginning, he would have just sacked him, like he did to the manager of Liege. He definitely wouldn't have offered a contract, which Powell HAS said in the press was under negotiation - that is proof, a direct quote.
I don't dislike RD. Yes everyone knows that He offered the contract. Powell had agreed the financial side just not the playing side. I believe that to be a direct quote.
I honestly think Thuram is no where near as bad as some have made out, its the fact he doesn't catch that has people flapping out of their arses about his ability, and its been very carefully managed to use the fella as the evidence that some want to put out
in an ideal world powelly would've been given the fella, (because that is how the network will work you need a player it may be a striker a goalie a defender,) and there will be players in his network not in favour being paid and potentially be able to do the job for us, Powelly would have been given the time and not chuck them straight in, but Hamer was injured and within a very short time Alnwick is out of the game long term, powelly threw him in , if RD told him too I really don't know , I used to believe it and maybe RD is being shrewd now to keep the fanbase relatively quiet by telling Riga you don't have to play him, but i don't know
AA and Reza have shown me enough to say they are good enough to be in the first team squad, Nego from people who i trust and accept the knowledge they have watching Charlton over many years said had a good game at wigan is also good enough
now for aa, reza , Nego to not play at sheff u in the starting 11, yet split up our best CM partnership that we have had in ages in our biggest game in years ,
when play nego , put Wilson wide right cousins and poyet in the middle Jackson left
Church, Reza,AA,Tudgay pick 2 from 4 for the striking options
but don't cut your nose off to spite your face, i said it on the way home from sheff u and on here that night
I think weegie that there was an opportunity after sheff utd, for RD to take on board the feelings of the vast majority of travelling fans and use the short term anger that the vast majority of football fans have in the 24/48 hrs after a piss poor performance and terrible result, now normally the vast majority recover calm down and get back to supporting, the other ten percent keep on with the campaign of bile towards whoever is in charge or the focus of their anger
RD took the opportunity, bottom of league, out of cup to lower lge opposition, fans unhappy, KM getting caught in between 3 coach loads of unhappy fans, and told that this capitulation in big games has to stop , we have had it for 30 years, she knew people were very unhappy not just with powell but with the bullshit being spoken about, feeder clubs, mgr not knowing that his players are being sold, (all BS by the way as powell knew exactly who was going and why, and its TJ and MS that are the real villians in that allowing the contracts to get in that situation )
something was going to give and it wasn't RD and his 12 mill
theres loads being made about this clause where he pays less if we go down, well hats off to the fella that's forsight and vision, and a sensible business decision , stay up and the price aint an issue, go down and theres 4 mill extra to help out
The pros out weigh the cons right now
48 hrs time i am sure we will find out just exactly what RE wants us to believe as gospel in this new edition of votv
the thing is if the inbox messages i have received on these two threads alone is a ball park reaction to the way the message is going to be delivered to fans and to be asked to then support such claims , then the bus has been missed hugely and this will not generate the anger and will to get together in the way maybe the G21 expect,
if we get a point or more on Saturday, yet again the support will not be as forth coming as its a sign that RD's way could be turning the corner, but on Saturday we face one of the best teams in the league with one of the best managers, we are in the relegation fight for a reason and Burnley should in theory beat us , so it wont be the end of the world for me, the remaining games in hand are the ones that matter the most
Not like you to duck a straight question, which was:
Before Thuram arrived, had the club flagged up to RD that there may be an issue with Alnwick?
How can we know that though, either way? It seems highly unlikely that no-one was aware there MIGHT be an issue, and from the speed a new keeper came in then I imagine that someone must have mentioned it to RD, though I admit this is speculation on my part.
Mate i have no Evidence other than what was said to me , and that was that the Alnwick situation was not as cut and dry as some have made out,
NSS will back that line up mate as i was with him the morning i got that message and i told him, boogica fat rob before the game , that the Ben Alnwick story has more to it than has been released and its a private matter so i doubt we would ever hear the full story
I accept it may well be sensitive, and the truth therefore cannot be made public. But if there was a known issue at the beginning of January, and with Hamer clearly not recovering fast, would we not have recalled Pope? People have forgotten how early in Jan Thuram arrived. It was almost like RD arrived, opened his bag, and said here, present from Liege for you. Like a box of Belgian chocolates...
I don't dislike RD. Yes everyone knows that He offered the contract. Powell had agreed the financial side just not the playing side. I believe that to be a direct quote.
Right, so where is the conspiracy theory coming from that RD was somehow manipulating events to force Powell out (despite the contract being discussed.) It depends on A) RD offering a contract he never had any intention of signing (and what the hell would he gain from that?) and suddenly deciding actually he won't interfere with which players get picked (despite this being his motive from the beginning according to said theory.)
irrespective of whether or not the Club had flagged up an issue with Alnwick how do we know, for example, that a couple of Clubs were not sniffing round him and Hamer, especially both being out of contract in six months, and we were just being sensible drafting in Thuram as opposed to calling back Pope from a beneficial loan or chucking Philips in. Due to injuries Thuram had to then play and maybe didn't acquit himself too well and all these conspiracy theories started. Until CP comes out and says 'yes, I was told to play x,y or z' then that is what they are.
BTW, I was in the ground early at Millwall and paid particular attention to Thuram warming up. He didn't punch a single shot away and caught everything that was put up in the air to him. As stated elsewhere he ain't a rookie and he ain't crap. Maybe the game at Wigan took him by surprise and it was going to take him a while to settle.
Didn't Powelly say he had spoke to the new owner already though about where he sees the need for support , that was very early in the takeover being finalised, I think it would be Naïve for any of to think that discussions over players may not have happened before the deal was signed, especially free ones from his other clubs that may be available as theres no cost risk, so maybe powelly and co were aware that something maybe on the horizon
pope in a relegation battle may have been deemed to risky as hamer was nearing fitness, as soon as hamer was fit powelly put him in between the sticks and he aint moved since
OK, NLA, but you were the one who was confident/ supposedly had info that if Yann left, we would be more than satisfied with the replacements. At the time we got Reza, who has shown some good touches, but is way too lightweight. Now finally, almost two months later, we have Obika - fair enough, but "old news" and not exactly a "world-beater" (though think he'll do a job for us...)
I'm more than prepared to give RD a chance, but, you know what, if there was one person who cared about CAFC to the bottom of his heart, then that was CP - if he couldn't reach agreement with RD over "footballing issues", does that not cause SOME concern? I'm sure those footballing issues went deeper than who picked the team - much more likely to be about the transfer policy. CP had a v. good record in that respect, with or without funds...but who knows how that will be managed this summer now?
I buy VOTV when I can, but nothing further than that - I don't care about any of the alleged power politics going on - I just care about the future of our football club.
i was led to believe weegie we would be very happy with who comes in , now if there was truth in us chasing, simeon Jackson, gradel, wickham, swp, etc then i would've been really happy, i am happy with AA and Reza
i think everyone just cares about the future of our club, but some deem it more important to hold their info than to share it
Your scenario is certainly plausible. Unfortunately so are some others. I'm keeping an open mind, and am grateful to people with an inside track for sharing here, as NLA says.
i was led to believe weegie we would be very happy with who comes in , now if there was truth in us chasing, simeon Jackson, gradel, wickham, swp, etc then i would've been really happy, i am happy with AA and Reza
i think everyone just cares about the future of our club, but some deem it more important to hold their info than to share it
But chasing is very different from securing them - any sensible club does not sell its best players until it has reached agreement on their replacements...
Not like you to duck a straight question, which was:
Before Thuram arrived, had the club flagged up to RD that there may be an issue with Alnwick?
I don't think the issue was with Alnwick before Thuram arrived it was with Ben Hamer. He had missed several games b4 Xmas with an ankle ligament problem, a problem which he was struggling with and a problem that manifested itself two days before Boro away !
i was led to believe weegie we would be very happy with who comes in , now if there was truth in us chasing, simeon Jackson, gradel, wickham, swp, etc then i would've been really happy, i am happy with AA and Reza
i think everyone just cares about the future of our club, but some deem it more important to hold their info than to share it
Jackson incorrect, Gradel correct, Wickham correct, SWP incorrect (as far as offering them a cold hard contract)
Reza is too lightweight for this league so was a good attempt at a season saving signing, but didn't work out, he's off at the end of the season I believe, so not ideal how that worked out. RD & co. need to work a lot more on who they are bringing into our club, he has underestimated and it shows by him copying CP's loan signing of Obika and him instantly having more of an impact than Reza has shown. I hope they improve on this, we can't be a testing ground for international players not ready for the league, it's a relentless league if an opponent spots a weakness (physically or tactically) they will pounce on it
I for one am not (yet) too concerned about these 'football matters' that are the root of the Powell/Duchatelet fall out. Dyer has certainly had bit of influence if the Obika signing is anything to go by, Tudgay is far more likely to be a Powell target than a Duchatelet one, we offered a contract to Yann, signed up the club captain as well as our most salable asset (Rhoys Wiggins), if they were offered new contracts it seems unlikely to me that other players like Poyet, Morrison and Hamer haven't at the least had overtures made, even if nothing concrete has happened yet, with the future still in flux.
If in summer we see the likes of Morrison, Hamer, Wilson, Wiggins and Harriot (amongst others) all sold/released, youth prospects carted off to Belgium or auctioned off to 'bigger' clubs and our signings are the trawlings of Leagues One and Two, then I will be concerned. But on current evidence there is no evidence that this will be the case. The Kermorgant situation was mishandled and I would imagine it is considered a mistake by all involved - including RD. But that happened within two weeks of RD buying the club, missteps at such an early stage are not incontrovertible proof of incompetence or malice. His decisions since then have definitely convinced me that he has a grander ambition for this club than simply robbing the cradle and dumping a bunch of Belgian rejects on a bum-licking lackey he installed.
Maybe it will all go wrong but no-one can be sure of that yet. Giving him time is the only logical response until such times as his plans become a bit clearer - or he actually decides to tell us what they are (something I think even the more pro-RD of us agree is a weakness/fault of his management thus far.)
I don't dislike RD. Yes everyone knows that He offered the contract. Powell had agreed the financial side just not the playing side. I believe that to be a direct quote.
Right, so where is the conspiracy theory coming from that RD was somehow manipulating events to force Powell out (despite the contract being discussed.) It depends on A) RD offering a contract he never had any intention of signing (and what the hell would he gain from that?) and suddenly deciding actually he won't interfere with which players get picked (despite this being his motive from the beginning according to said theory.)
It doesn't add up. At all.
i believe it came from Powell himself, which nla has referred to in one of his posts above.
By the way nla, I hope that 3 coach load of fans didnt intimidate a woman who was just grabbing a drink at a service station. But anyway at least some on the coach got their say and it was obviously all taken on board.
i think it was all very well explained in a very friendly way B i didn't see it myself but from what i heard the boys were very taken by the young lady and obviously being rude or aggressive wouldn't fit the flirting
"Reza is too lightweight for this league so was a good attempt at a season saving signing, but didn't work out, he's off at the end of the season I believe"
I think he's got potential. A few months to adjust to this league then a pre season to build himself up a bit. I don't think we should get rid just yet. Hopefully give him until at least January of next season.
I can't let you get away with that NYA . You can't criticize Varney for inconsistency while making a glaring inconsistency of your own. What @micks1950 has demonstrated clearly is that RD did not sack CP because of what you call poor performances. I'm not disagreeing with your other points, nor am I saying that parting ways with CP was fundamentally wrong, but I don't like to see people rewriting history to suit their own personal arguments
Prague - you don't get to many games but I expect you saw the cup quarter final vs Sheffield United. 5,300 fans went - it was gash! Why is Varney in the frame at this stage anyway ? Prague you should really make it your business to get to the Valley soon to see the football first hand instead of living vicariously through Charlton Life!
That is unfair. If there is one poster on here who will take on any challenge head on, and indeed do so in real life too, it is @Airman Brown.
Contrast that with the video of Roland Duchatelet. There seems to have been a bit of video lost in the editing suite. The bit where he states why he sacked CP. Careless editing...
The last edition of VOTV had an article on Kermorgant which failed to mention anywhere that if he played a set number of games it would trigger a contract extension - the source? YK himself at Eltham Addicks! NLA adds a little more about a rumour circulating...So why didn't Rick report any of this? The answer posted on this site was that there was no evidence of this clause! So when you state "Airman Brown" takes a challenge head on do you mean he can he spin something to create bad news about the club whoever the owner and whatever the season? Which to bring the thread back on topic is then repeated by Varney when the club is vulnerable?
Such a shame the result went against these people the other night! We won, we climb out of the bottom three and it all goes quiet! And no Liege players to be seen. No more big statements about marching in the streets.
A shame but I think all of that involvement in the 90s has given you and others a sense of entitlement that the club has to explain everything to you in minute detail? New York Addick nailed this elsewhere proposing that the likes of you, Airman and Varney are attacking the new owner simply because you sense that the last links to that old cozy world are disappearing. The irony is that it is you who now have to cope with change... And that there are plenty of posters on here who can see the changes and perceive the direction of the club simply from watching the games and reading the statements. They don't believe everything and football has more luck than anything. Some are more optimistic than others but none appear to need the level of detail you require which simply should not be in the public domain.
Even @Henry Irving has piped down a little as he can see the progress and policy evolving!
I honestly think Thuram is no where near as bad as some have made out, its the fact he doesn't catch that has people flapping out of their arses about his ability, and its been very carefully managed to use the fella as the evidence that some want to put out
in an ideal world powelly would've been given the fella, (because that is how the network will work you need a player it may be a striker a goalie a defender,) and there will be players in his network not in favour being paid and potentially be able to do the job for us, Powelly would have been given the time and not chuck them straight in, but Hamer was injured and within a very short time Alnwick is out of the game long term, powelly threw him in , if RD told him too I really don't know , I used to believe it and maybe RD is being shrewd now to keep the fanbase relatively quiet by telling Riga you don't have to play him, but i don't know
AA and Reza have shown me enough to say they are good enough to be in the first team squad, Nego from people who i trust and accept the knowledge they have watching Charlton over many years said had a good game at wigan is also good enough
now for aa, reza , Nego to not play at sheff u in the starting 11, yet split up our best CM partnership that we have had in ages in our biggest game in years ,
when play nego , put Wilson wide right cousins and poyet in the middle Jackson left
Church, Reza,AA,Tudgay pick 2 from 4 for the striking options
but don't cut your nose off to spite your face, i said it on the way home from sheff u and on here that night
I think weegie that there was an opportunity after sheff utd, for RD to take on board the feelings of the vast majority of travelling fans and use the short term anger that the vast majority of football fans have in the 24/48 hrs after a piss poor performance and terrible result, now normally the vast majority recover calm down and get back to supporting, the other ten percent keep on with the campaign of bile towards whoever is in charge or the focus of their anger
RD took the opportunity, bottom of league, out of cup to lower lge opposition, fans unhappy, KM getting caught in between 3 coach loads of unhappy fans, and told that this capitulation in big games has to stop , we have had it for 30 years, she knew people were very unhappy not just with powell but with the bullshit being spoken about, feeder clubs, mgr not knowing that his players are being sold, (all BS by the way as powell knew exactly who was going and why, and its TJ and MS that are the real villians in that allowing the contracts to get in that situation )
something was going to give and it wasn't RD and his 12 mill
theres loads being made about this clause where he pays less if we go down, well hats off to the fella that's forsight and vision, and a sensible business decision , stay up and the price aint an issue, go down and theres 4 mill extra to help out
The pros out weigh the cons right now
48 hrs time i am sure we will find out just exactly what RE wants us to believe as gospel in this new edition of votv
the thing is if the inbox messages i have received on these two threads alone is a ball park reaction to the way the message is going to be delivered to fans and to be asked to then support such claims , then the bus has been missed hugely and this will not generate the anger and will to get together in the way maybe the G21 expect,
if we get a point or more on Saturday, yet again the support will not be as forth coming as its a sign that RD's way could be turning the corner, but on Saturday we face one of the best teams in the league with one of the best managers, we are in the relegation fight for a reason and Burnley should in theory beat us , so it wont be the end of the world for me, the remaining games in hand are the ones that matter the most
100% with u NLA. I think the G21 have very badly mis-judged how/were supporters really feel. I love a read of The Voice but I for one won't be buying it on Saturday as I'm sick to death of reading the bitterness/hearsay/bullshit. We should all have one aim which is to stay up then let's all re-assess things in the Summer, but you know as well as I that a small minority are desperate for us to fail !
i think the correct person of the whole three coaches done the talking tbh, she was with ketmans old man i think so if a boundary was over stepped i am sure we would've heard by now
Why would Powell lie about RD trying to force him to pick Thuram at Sheff U?! Surely RD was the one with the agenda, wanting to prove who was boss? The fact Riga is picking Hamer for me proves RD was the one playing games and forcing Powell out. The more I think about it, the more I blame RD for our cup exit and all that disappointment.
This is how I've been viewing it since Riga's selection of Hamer. If what we have been told is correct.
Let's assume that RD had this agenda. How do you feel about Alex Dyer apparently going along with this -- one minute Thuram is a must-play, then (now) he's not... Dyer just shrugs his shoulders and carries on, and accepts the underlying agenda to force CP out? I don't buy it, personally, and doubt that Alex Dyer would be as two-faced as that himself.
I don't dislike RD. Yes everyone knows that He offered the contract. Powell had agreed the financial side just not the playing side. I believe that to be a direct quote.
Right, so where is the conspiracy theory coming from that RD was somehow manipulating events to force Powell out (despite the contract being discussed.) It depends on A) RD offering a contract he never had any intention of signing (and what the hell would he gain from that?) and suddenly deciding actually he won't interfere with which players get picked (despite this being his motive from the beginning according to said theory.)
It doesn't add up. At all.
i believe it came from Powell himself, which nla has referred to in one of his posts above.
The only things I can recall Powell saying directly about the matter are that he is grateful for his time at the club and wishes us the best. He may hves alluded to differences of opinion about the football/transfer policies between he and RD (I can't find quotes right now) but that is a long way from RD orchestrating some diabolical scheme to force CP's hand - which is nonsensical. IF RD was going to get rid of Powell, he would have pulled the trigger long before, no contracts offered, no brinkmanship and mind games. RD has no particular passion for football in general, definitely not this particular club, that much is clear - there is NO motive for him to mess around trying to psyche out Powell when he could just fire him cheaply and easily and install Riga at his convenience.
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I honestly think Thuram is no where near as bad as some have made out, its the fact he doesn't catch that has people flapping out of their arses about his ability, and its been very carefully managed to use the fella as the evidence that some want to put out
in an ideal world powelly would've been given the fella, (because that is how the network will work you need a player it may be a striker a goalie a defender,) and there will be players in his network not in favour being paid and potentially be able to do the job for us, Powelly would have been given the time and not chuck them straight in, but Hamer was injured and within a very short time Alnwick is out of the game long term, powelly threw him in , if RD told him too I really don't know , I used to believe it and maybe RD is being shrewd now to keep the fanbase relatively quiet by telling Riga you don't have to play him, but i don't know
AA and Reza have shown me enough to say they are good enough to be in the first team squad, Nego from people who i trust and accept the knowledge they have watching Charlton over many years said had a good game at wigan
is also good enough
now for aa, reza , Nego to not play at sheff u in the starting 11, yet split up our best CM partnership that we have had in ages in our biggest game in years ,
when play nego , put Wilson wide right cousins and poyet in the middle Jackson left
Church, Reza,AA,Tudgay pick 2 from 4 for the striking options
but don't cut your nose off to spite your face, i said it on the way home from sheff u and on here that night
I think weegie that there was an opportunity after sheff utd, for RD to take on board the feelings of the vast majority of travelling fans and use the short term anger that the vast majority of football fans have in the 24/48 hrs after a piss poor performance and terrible result, now normally the vast majority recover calm down and get back to supporting, the other ten percent keep on with the campaign of bile towards whoever is in charge or the focus of their anger
RD took the opportunity, bottom of league, out of cup to lower lge opposition, fans unhappy, KM getting caught in between 3 coach loads of unhappy fans, and told that this capitulation in big games has to stop , we have had it for 30 years, she knew people were very unhappy not just with powell but with the bullshit being spoken about, feeder clubs, mgr not knowing that his players are being sold, (all BS by the way as powell knew exactly who was going and why, and its TJ and MS that are the real villians in that allowing the contracts to get in that situation )
something was going to give and it wasn't RD and his 12 mill
theres loads being made about this clause where he pays less if we go down, well hats off to the fella that's forsight and vision, and a sensible business decision , stay up and the price aint an issue, go down and theres 4 mill extra to help out
The pros out weigh the cons right now
48 hrs time i am sure we will find out just exactly what RE wants us to believe as gospel in this new edition of votv
the thing is if the inbox messages i have received on these two threads alone is a ball park reaction to the way the message is going to be delivered to fans and to be asked to then support such claims , then the bus has been missed hugely and this will not generate the anger and will to get together in the way maybe the G21 expect,
if we get a point or more on Saturday, yet again the support will not be as forth coming as its a sign that RD's way could be turning the corner, but on Saturday we face one of the best teams in the league with one of the best managers, we are in the relegation fight for a reason and Burnley should in theory beat us , so it wont be the end of the world for me, the remaining games in hand are the ones that matter the most
If he came in on loan or on a free from somewhere other than SL, we would all be giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Not like you to duck a straight question, which was:
Before Thuram arrived, had the club flagged up to RD that there may be an issue with Alnwick?
NSS will back that line up mate as i was with him the morning i got that message and i told him, boogica fat rob before the game , that the Ben Alnwick story has more to it than has been released and its a private matter so i doubt we would ever hear the full story
It doesn't add up. At all.
BTW, I was in the ground early at Millwall and paid particular attention to Thuram warming up. He didn't punch a single shot away and caught everything that was put up in the air to him. As stated elsewhere he ain't a rookie and he ain't crap. Maybe the game at Wigan took him by surprise and it was going to take him a while to settle.
pope in a relegation battle may have been deemed to risky as hamer was nearing fitness, as soon as hamer was fit powelly put him in between the sticks and he aint moved since
I'm more than prepared to give RD a chance, but, you know what, if there was one person who cared about CAFC to the bottom of his heart, then that was CP - if he couldn't reach agreement with RD over "footballing issues", does that not cause SOME concern? I'm sure those footballing issues went deeper than who picked the team - much more likely to be about the transfer policy. CP had a v. good record in that respect, with or without funds...but who knows how that will be managed this summer now?
I buy VOTV when I can, but nothing further than that - I don't care about any of the alleged power politics going on - I just care about the future of our football club.
i think everyone just cares about the future of our club, but some deem it more important to hold their info than to share it
Your scenario is certainly plausible. Unfortunately so are some others. I'm keeping an open mind, and am grateful to people with an inside track for sharing here, as NLA says.
Reza is too lightweight for this league so was a good attempt at a season saving signing, but didn't work out, he's off at the end of the season I believe, so not ideal how that worked out. RD & co. need to work a lot more on who they are bringing into our club, he has underestimated and it shows by him copying CP's loan signing of Obika and him instantly having more of an impact than Reza has shown. I hope they improve on this, we can't be a testing ground for international players not ready for the league, it's a relentless league if an opponent spots a weakness (physically or tactically) they will pounce on it
If in summer we see the likes of Morrison, Hamer, Wilson, Wiggins and Harriot (amongst others) all sold/released, youth prospects carted off to Belgium or auctioned off to 'bigger' clubs and our signings are the trawlings of Leagues One and Two, then I will be concerned. But on current evidence there is no evidence that this will be the case. The Kermorgant situation was mishandled and I would imagine it is considered a mistake by all involved - including RD. But that happened within two weeks of RD buying the club, missteps at such an early stage are not incontrovertible proof of incompetence or malice. His decisions since then have definitely convinced me that he has a grander ambition for this club than simply robbing the cradle and dumping a bunch of Belgian rejects on a bum-licking lackey he installed.
Maybe it will all go wrong but no-one can be sure of that yet. Giving him time is the only logical response until such times as his plans become a bit clearer - or he actually decides to tell us what they are (something I think even the more pro-RD of us agree is a weakness/fault of his management thus far.)
By the way nla, I hope that 3 coach load of fans didnt intimidate a woman who was just grabbing a drink at a service station. But anyway at least some on the coach got their say and it was obviously all taken on board.
I think he's got potential. A few months to adjust to this league then a pre season to build himself up a bit. I don't think we should get rid just yet. Hopefully give him until at least January of next season.
Why is Varney in the frame at this stage anyway ?
Prague you should really make it your business to get to the Valley soon to see the football first hand instead of living vicariously through Charlton Life! The last edition of VOTV had an article on Kermorgant which failed to mention anywhere that if he played a set number of games it would trigger a contract extension - the source? YK himself at Eltham Addicks! NLA adds a little more about a rumour circulating...So why didn't Rick report any of this? The answer posted on this site was that there was no evidence of this clause!
So when you state "Airman Brown" takes a challenge head on do you mean he can he spin something to create bad news about the club whoever the owner and whatever the season? Which to bring the thread back on topic is then repeated by Varney when the club is vulnerable?
Such a shame the result went against these people the other night! We won, we climb out of the bottom three and it all goes quiet! And no Liege players to be seen. No more big statements about marching in the streets.
A shame but I think all of that involvement in the 90s has given you and others a sense of entitlement that the club has to explain everything to you in minute detail? New York Addick nailed this elsewhere proposing that the likes of you, Airman and Varney are attacking the new owner simply because you sense that the last links to that old cozy world are disappearing. The irony is that it is you who now have to cope with change...
And that there are plenty of posters on here who can see the changes and perceive the direction of the club simply from watching the games and reading the statements. They don't believe everything and football has more luck than anything. Some are more optimistic than others but none appear to need the level of detail you require which simply should not be in the public domain.
Even @Henry Irving has piped down a little as he can see the progress and policy evolving!
lets not start to detract fans attention from the one thing that binds us all, the badge the football the result, the rest can wait