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Players Marks: Charlton v Birmingham

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  • Thuram 6 Doesn't want to come for the ball early, not inspired with confidence, neither do his team-mates seem to be, but some good saves.

    Wilson 6.5

    Morrison 7 Thought he had a good game

    Wood 6

    Evina 2.5 (.5 more than Hudds for actually putting in one good block, one good tackle, and even a decent cross, unless I imagined it. Otherwise woeful. AGAIN. What must Lennon think?)

    Cousins 7 Should be in the middle

    Poyet 8 Intelligent, aware, and great passing on the deck

    Ajdarevic 8 See above

    Jackson 6.5 Played OK, but shouldn't be accomodated by putting players out of position.

    Sordell 6 When he got the ball, he played some good stuff - just seems so lazy and/or unaware (esp when we were used to Yann (and Church) chasing down so much.

    Reza 7.5 Fantastic first touch, needs to cut down on the theatrics, though one of them was a certain pen. Great prospect.
  • Thuram - 5.5 Did not do anything particularly wrong, but he doesn't fill me (and I think his defenders) with much confidence.

    Wilson - 6.5 Probably our best defender on the day. Tried to get forward, but I don't think he and Cousins work.

    Morro - 6 Struggled with the pace and movement of Macheda. One of the central defenders messed up for the 1st goal.

    Wood - 6.5 See comments on Morrison. Marked higher because I think his distribution is better.

    Evina - 4 I thought that Ceddy had a decent 1st half, but my view is that he struggles to cope mentally with 90 minutes of football. So, consequently, his poor defensive performance in the 2nd half. Unfortunately, this also had an effect on AA's performance.

    Cousins - 5 Square peg in a round hole. Is not a winger. It would have made more sense to me to play him as a right back, a position he has a lot of experience playing, and have Wilson in front of him. Wilson is also a far better finisher.

    Poyet - 7 I have been watching Diego's development from the age of 15, and I have always considered him to be exceptional. Yesterday, he made the transition to 1st team look easy. Always moving, can pick a pass, or keep it simple. Excellent home debut.

    Jackson - 4.5 Jacko is my favourite player since Darren Bent. I find it sad to see his decline. Only really useful now, when we are in possession. When the opposition have the ball, they find it all too easy to by-pass him. Never got near the ball. AA is quite slow, but can we afford to have 2 slow players in midfield? On this performance, which one would you play?

    Ajderevic - 7.5 MOTM. Those bemoaning the sale of Stephens should watch this guy. A different league to what we've had recently. Great 1st touch, skillful and strong. Also, great vision, a number of sumptuous passes. After the 1st half, I thought we should give him the ball at every opportunity. True to form, he was much less involved. I also liked his attitude at the final whistle, obviously gutted. Maybe some of our permanent players should have the same reaction to a defeat? I can only see him getting better as he gets fitter.

    Sordell - 4 It is not only his perceived lack of effort, but his decision making that concerned me. Too many times, he tried to beat the whole Birmingham team single handedly, and then hit easily blocked shots. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned his most telling contribution. Charlton play a ball over the top, and Reza has a run on to it between the 2 centre backs, only to be "cynically" blocked off by Sordell, ambling back from an offside position. It was so blatant, it makes you wonder whether he'd "done a Sodje"...

    Reza - 6 I like the look of him. Some say he is lightweight, but got no protection from the ref. Runs into good areas, and pulled the defence from pillar to post. It's a shame Sordell couldn't show as much determination. A few sublime touches. I think he and Church could be a very effective partnership.


  • Sordell - 4 It is not only his perceived lack of effort, but his decision making that concerned me. Too many times, he tried to beat the whole Birmingham team single handedly, and then hit easily blocked shots. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned his most telling contribution. Charlton play a ball over the top, and Reza has a run on to it between the 2 centre backs, only to be "cynically" blocked off by Sordell, ambling back from an offside position. It was so blatant, it makes you wonder whether he'd "done a Sodje"...

    Looked to me far more like Reza ran right into Sordell in that instance, maybe Marv could/should get out of the way but Reza was as much responsible for that little blunder.
  • how was the first goal his fault who let macheda free in the box to nod in that was a shit goal either wood or morrow

    The ball went past his arm and he was static...didnt realise i had to agree with everything you say my lord.


  • Thuram 6 Radio commentator described him as "maverick". Summed him up, I thought.
    Wilson 7 One of our better defenders today.
    Morrison 4 Poor game. Solely to blame for first goal and jointly to blame for second.
    Wood 6 Not quite as assured as usual.
    Evina 4 Not "Championship" quality by a long way. Easily beaten by the Birmingham winger.
    Cousins 5 Played out of position and did not look comfortable.
    Poyet 7 This lad has great potential.
    Ajdarevic 7 Very promising debut (despite having a slightly dodgy start to the game). Could be a class player.
    Jackson 6 Tried his best.
    Sordell 6 Don't know why he gets so much stick. At least he tries to have shots on goal, which is more than Church does.
    Reza 6 Obviously needs to acclimatise to English football but showed signs of promise.
  • Thuram 5
    Wilson 6.5
    Morrison 7
    wood 6.5
    Evina 4
    Cousins 7
    Poyet 8
    Ajdarevic 7.5
    Jackson 6.5
    Sordell 5.5
    Reza 7.5

    Church n/a
    Green n/a
    Parzyszek n/a
  • Thuram - 6
    Wilson - 7
    Morrison - 6
    Wood - 7
    Evina - 3
    Cousins - 6
    Poyet - 7
    Ajdarevic - 7
    Jackson - 5
    Sordell - 4
    Reza - 7

    Church - 6
    Green - 4
    Parzyszek - n/a
  • Thuram - 6
    Wilson - 6
    Morrison - 5
    Wood - 7
    Evina - 3
    Cousins - 6.5
    Poyet - 7.5
    Ajdarevic - 7.5
    Jackson - 4
    Sordell - 3
    Reza - 5

    Church - 6
    Green - 3

    Would have given Reza 7 yet I hate diving (Regardless of the Team) so two points taken off for the two dives and silly yellow card
  • Thuram 3
    Wilson 4
    Morrison 4
    wood 5
    Evina 3
    Cousins 5
    Poyet 7
    Ajdarevic 6
    Jackson 5
    Sordell 3
    Reza 5
  • Thuram 6 - He sliced nearly all of his clearances but his punching and catching wasnt too bad, he made some good saves too.
    Wilson 6.5 - He was playing really well but was culpable for the 2nd goal, he didnt track back after getting forwards, to be fair, he may have just not have had the legs to do it after all his hard work.
    Morrison 5.5 - he was generally ok but I think he was partly at fault for the first goal
    wood 6 - was ok but tbh the whole defense was just poor.
    Evina 6.5 - Im really surprised by the comments about him, I thought he made some great tackles and delt well with his man. Yes his crossing wasnt great but the wind cant have helped.
    Cousins 7 - The whole midfield kept the ball well and Jordan did really well as usual but he should have scored when he went 1 on 1 with time.
    Poyet 8 MOTM - was fantastic, barely gave the ball away
    Ajdarevic 7 - really impressed by him, got great feet for such a big man.
    Jackson 7 - put his all in for the team
    Sordell 6 - wasnt brilliant but I dont think he was poor as some are saying.
    Reza 7 - Hes got class, Maybe not a Yann but he was always looking to recieve and tried a bici which nearly came off.

    Overall, our midfield was really good as the possession stats of 67% show, but we struggled to get in behind their defense. At the back it was individual errors that cost us and they just looked nervous during every Birmingham attack (there weren't many) and even when they had the ball they didnt know what to do with it. I cant see a lot more that Powell could have done except bring on Polish Pete earlier maybe.
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  • Thuram. - 6
    Wilson. - 6
    Morrison. - 6.5
    wood. - 6
    Evina. - 4.5
    Cousins. - 6
    Poyet - 7.5
    Ajdarevic - 7
    Jackson - 4.5
    Cordell - 4.5
    Reza - 7

    Church n/a
    Green n/a
    Parzyszek n/a
  • Thuram 6.5
    Wilson 5
    Morrison 5
    Wood 6.5
    Evina 3
    Cousins 6
    Poyet 8
    Ajdarevic 8
    Jackson 5
    Sordell 3.5
    Reza 8

    Church n/a
    Green n/a
    Parzyszek n/a

  • Thuram - 6 Still undecided, had a better 2nd half.
    Wilson - 6 can't underate his effort.
    Morrison - 6 Should have done better with goal attempt.
    wood - 5 Not one of his best games.
    Evina - 4 Felt sorry for Ceddy, if we have to play JJ (until Wiggins is back) use him in this position, after all that's where he started with us while on loan from Notts County!
    Cousins - 6 Played out of position wide right. Shame about 1st half miss! But still class player.
    Poyet - 8 Excellent home debut. Sadly can see him going on to better things but not with us.
    Ajdarevic - 7.5 Class player (having played at Liverpool and Leicester). Would like him as a permanent signing, Captain material!
    Jackson - 5 Play him in back 4 left sided until Wiggins is fit!
    Sordell - 5 Have defended him in the past, but didn't impress me today!
    Reza - 5 Don't like players who did and fall down a lot, perhaps he will improve.

    Church n/a When we are pleased to see him come on gives you and idea how bad things are!
    Green n/a Gave away 2nd goal, did nothing!
    Parzyszek n/a 5 minutes or less, you are taking the piss out of him!
  • edited February 2014
    Thuram 6 - He is not the problem
    Wilson 5
    Morrison 5 poor for both goals
    wood 5 poor for both goals
    Evina 4
    Cousins 6
    Poyet 7 looks a real prospect
    Ajdarevic 6.5 a mixed game of good and bad but always wanted the ball, always tried to create
    Jackson 5
    Sordell 5
    Reza 5 - Lightweight and a diver
  • you don't but the error was wood ducking and someone not tracking meaning a free header sq infront of goal from 6 or 7 yds not the poor fella in goal if we are going to blame people blame the right ones
  • Thuram - 6
    Wilson - 6
    Morrison - 6
    wood - 7
    Evina - 4
    Cousins - 6
    Poyet - 8.5
    Ajdarevic - 8
    Jackson - 6
    Sordell - 6
    Reza - 7
  • Thuram - 6 Did nothing wrong and couldn't be at fault with either goal

    Wilson - 7 Believe he is a good footballer and one of our consistent performers

    Morrison - 6 Probably most noticeable for 2 poor crosses/shots when in good attacking positions in 2nd half

    wood - 7 Good distribution and solid defending

    Evina - 4 Whilst up against a very good winger he struggled with his distribution. Sadly I don't think he reaches this standard

    Cousins - 6 Probably had a better game yesterday but prone to petulance and doesn't win enough ball

    Poyet - 8.For someone who was playing his 2nd league game he was very good. looked good on the ball and played things simply which was so impressive.

    Ajdarevic - 7.5 Looked good and showed intelligence with his passing. Knows when to try party tricks as well

    Jackson - 5.5 Sadly JJ is not as mobile as we would like him to be and no longer a goal threat. thought the game passed him by mostly.

    Sordell - 5.5 We can only judge a striker on goals if he hasn't a great workrate

    Reza - 6.5 Promising and showed some nice touches

    Subs

    Church n/a
    Green n/a Could criticise him for losing the ball for BFC's 2nd goal but at least he is trying to make things happen
    Parzyszek n/a


    SCP - Once again indecisive substitutions - let Church stand in the dugout stripped for about 5 mins

    Alex Dyer - What does he do.

    Maybe not the Management style of SCP to be demonstrative but being quiet in the technical area doesn't work either.
  • edited February 2014
    Thuram 6 Does not inspire confidence but not afraid to get amongst flying boots. No chance with the second goal and the first could have been wind affected so he gets the benefit of the doubt.

    Wilson 6.5 Not the threat he has been going forward but then he hasn't played much with Jordan on the right

    Morrison 7.5 Looked pretty solid to me. I only wish he'd shot instead of crossed in the second half as he would probably have scored.

    Wood 6 Seen better from him and perhaps partially responsible for the first goal

    Evina 5 Looked disinterested and out of his depth at times. That said Burke is one of the better wingers in the division.

    Cousins 6.5 Nothing particularly good or bad. got a few crosses in which gets him the half mark above par.

    Poyet 8 Very impressive from a teenager playing only his second Championship match. Showed an awareness and assurance beyond his years. I don't remember him giving the ball away once.

    Ajdarevic 7.5 Like the look of him. Physical presence and a spark of creativity

    Jackson 6 Did a lot of work off the ball as usual which is rarely appreciated but no attacking threat whatsoever.

    Sordell 6 One decent long range effort saved by Randolph. Very frustrating player because I feel there is something there

    Reza 6.5 With the right partner his pace and nippiness could be useful. No idea whether he can finish yet.
  • Thuram 6
    Wilson 6
    Morrison 4 (Allowed Macheda a free header on the first goal)
    Wood 6
    Evina 4
    Cousins 6 (out of position!!!)
    Poyet 7.5 (MoM)
    Jackson 5
    Ajdarevic 7
    Sordell 5
    Reza 6
  • edited February 2014
    Thuram 6
    Wilson 5
    Morrison 5.5
    Wood 6
    Evina 4
    Cousins 6
    Poyet 7.5
    Jackson 5
    Ajdarevic 7.5
    Sordell 4.5
    Reza 7.5
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  • edited February 2014
    Thuram 6 - kicking poor , other then that you can't moan about anything he did

    Wilson 6 - played well gave his all

    Morrison 6 -kept trying to over play

    wood 7 again solid.. I don't see him loose a header

    Evina 3 - I know it's harsh but he really was terrible

    Cousins 5- not fair he is on the RW struggles

    Poyet 7 I think he's better then cousins , what we have been missing

    Ajdarevic 8 (MOTM) he really does excit me on the ball - if we are going to stay up his flair and technique could be crucial

    Jackson 7 passing was assured , yes a little slow but excellent delivery

    Sordell 5 worked harder , but kept opting to shot instead of passing to reza which became frustrating

    Reza 7 worked hard and wasn't getting much help from sordell , looks a handful

    We really was unlucky , let's keep our heads up
  • Thuram - 6
    Wilson - 6
    Morrison - 6
    wood - 6
    Evina - 4.5
    Cousins - 6
    Poyet - 7
    Ajdarevic - 7
    Jackson - 5.5
    Sordell - 5
    Reza - 7
  • Thurman 6 was a difficult day for kicking. Prefer Hamer
    Wilson 6 - Workrate great as usual
    Morrison 5 not his best game
    Wood 6 same as Morrison
    Evina 4 Confidence shot to pieces. But not good enough
    Cousins 5.5 Why is CP playing him out of position?
    Poyet 8 mom Not sure how long he will stay with us
    Ajdarevic 7 starting to really like him
    Jackson 5 Too slow ah this level now
    Sordell 5.5 not good enough. Odd flash of brilliance
    Reza 7.5 a real handful, can't wait to see him after a few games.


    I couldn't go to the match, have marked anyway.
  • Kermy said:

    How the hell can anyone give Thuram 3. Absolutely pathetic. He did nothing wrong bar a couple of poor kicks



    Didn't you know? Thuram is our new scapegoat. ;-)
    That must be a joke he was absolutely terrible! Did nothing wrong?? Did nothing right. Kicking awful, shot stopping awful and to top it all off he couldn't catch a cold. 3 is generous. Worst goalkeeper I have seen in a charlton shirt
  • Thuram 6.5
    Wilson 6.5
    Morrison 6.5
    Wood 6
    Evina 4
    Cousins 7
    Poyet 7.5
    Ajdarevic 7
    Jackson 7
    Sordell 6
    Reza 6.5
  • edited February 2014
    Thuram - 5
    Wilson - 7
    Morrison - 6
    wood - 6
    Evina - 3
    Cousins - 5
    Poyet - 7
    Ajdarevic - 6
    Jackson - 6
    Sordell - 5
    Reza - 4

    Church - 5
    Green - 3
    Parzyszek n/a
  • edited February 2014
    THEMCA said:

    Kermy said:

    How the hell can anyone give Thuram 3. Absolutely pathetic. He did nothing wrong bar a couple of poor kicks



    Didn't you know? Thuram is our new scapegoat. ;-)
    That must be a joke he was absolutely terrible! Did nothing wrong?? Did nothing right. Kicking awful, shot stopping awful and to top it all off he couldn't catch a cold. 3 is generous. Worst goalkeeper I have seen in a charlton shirt
    Shot stopping awful?? He made a great save after Evina's air shot. Can't remember him making an error. His punch was a strong one from their cross and the first goal was shit defending. His kicking wasn't great second half but it was clean in the first half.
  • Thuram - 5
    Wilson - 6
    Morrison - 6
    wood - 6
    Evina - 4
    Cousins - 6
    Poyet - 7
    Ajdarevic - 7
    Jackson - 6
    Sordell - 4
    Reza - 5
  • Thuram 6
    Wilson 6
    Morrison 5
    Wood 7
    Evina 3
    Cousins 5
    Poyet 7
    Ajdarevic 8.5
    Jackson 4
    Sordell 6
    Reza 7
  • THEMCA said:

    Kermy said:

    How the hell can anyone give Thuram 3. Absolutely pathetic. He did nothing wrong bar a couple of poor kicks



    Didn't you know? Thuram is our new scapegoat. ;-)
    That must be a joke he was absolutely terrible! Did nothing wrong?? Did nothing right. Kicking awful, shot stopping awful and to top it all off he couldn't catch a cold. 3 is generous. Worst goalkeeper I have seen in a charlton shirt
    Shot stopping awful?? He made a great save after Evina's air shot. Can't remember him making an error. His punch was a strong one from their cross and the first goal was shit defending. His kicking wasn't great second half but it was clean in the first half.
    His kicking got worse when he changed ends and was kicking into the wind. Funny that. I've only seen the fella once and my mind is far from made up; there are clearly communication issues but worse keeper ever in a Charlton shirt? Go back about 2 months and loads on here were saying how bad Hamer was. Or one month and people were moaning about Alnwick's kicking.

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