The worry for you is if land in London is continually increasing, will Greenwich council seek a similar deal? Not sure whether you own the freehold or not though. Looks like we may be getting pushed out.
Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.
The story behind it is, we have long leases on several parcels of land surrounding the Den. It appears that for a few years now the club have been engaging with the council to discuss us developing the land so we can generate more income to make us more sustainable.
In the meantime, since 2004, Renewal Group, have been buying plots of land elsewhere on the site through other subsidiaries and have since submitted a planning application. For this to succeed they needed other areas of land which Lewisham produced CPO's for so the overall scheme can be implemented.
It appears Renewal may also want to use the land that we currently lease from Lewisham and last week Lewisham have agreed to sell this land to Renewal, so they are our new landlords, whilst our plans for the land have been discarded.
Interestingly, David Sullivan, an ex-Labour Lewisham council leader is the head of the Renewal New company buying the land, from a Labour run council without others seemingly being able to bid on the land.
The reason Charlton fans should be worried is if we go, you may find Millwall FC pitching up in Kent!!
The worry for you is if land in London is continually increasing, will Greenwich council seek a similar deal? Not sure whether you own the freehold or not though. Looks like we may be getting pushed out.
Can I be the first to recommend Gillingham. Similar size support when the bandwagon isn't running and similar supporter profile.
Maybe Millwall could move back to the other side of the river and share with their good friends at West Ham at their brand spanking new stadium? I'm sure all 8,000 Den supporters could fit in by the corner flag.
The 2nd picture is the best. Notice the three little scamps wandering around with brand new flags because the feckers have fluked it to Wembley again and their dads used to know Harry the Dog so they are Spanners for a day...
Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.
The story behind it is, we have long leases on several parcels of land surrounding the Den. It appears that for a few years now the club have been engaging with the council to discuss us developing the land so we can generate more income to make us more sustainable.
In the meantime, since 2004, Renewal Group, have been buying plots of land elsewhere on the site through other subsidiaries and have since submitted a planning application. For this to succeed they needed other areas of land which Lewisham produced CPO's for so the overall scheme can be implemented.
It appears Renewal may also want to use the land that we currently lease from Lewisham and last week Lewisham have agreed to sell this land to Renewal, so they are our new landlords, whilst our plans for the land have been discarded.
Interestingly, David Sullivan, an ex-Labour Lewisham council leader is the head of the Renewal New company buying the land, from a Labour run council without others seemingly being able to bid on the land.
The reason Charlton fans should be worried is if we go, you may find Millwall FC pitching up in Kent!!
Millwall will always attract the nutters and Charlton the decent fans. Kent's full of both.
Millwall chairman, John Berylson: “If these land sales go through, they will put the long-term future of the Club at risk because it will mean non-football assets that we hold in our leases will be surrendered to a property developer. We have the long-term interests of the Club and the community in mind. Renewal does not. Lewisham Council must be urged to think again.”
cant understand why we a debateing Millwall on Charlton life or should we change it to Charlton and Millwall life !!!
I wasn't aware that all conversation on a football forum has to be exclusively about one team?? Change the d to an m at the beginning of your username and we may have a more appropriate name.
What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
Renewal in tandem with the Surrey Canal Sports Foundation.
You won't be surprised to learn that directors from Renewal are also directors for the Sports Foundation.
What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
Renewal in tandem with the Surrey Canal Sports Foundation.
You won't be surprised to learn that directors from Renewal are also directors for the Sports Foundation.
Sparrows I and a lot of the old boys would welcome you to the New Valley if we have to have one. I for one would go to Millwall home games when we are away. The only problem I have is it bad enough losing to our little cousin at home once a season but twice?
The regeneration / gentrification of SE London and how this might affect both Charlton and Millwall should not go unnoticed by supporters of either club. It may be sensible for the CAS Trust to seek a dialogue with the Lions Trust, so that, mutually, we may safeguard our common interests.
cant understand why we a debateing Millwall on Charlton life or should we change it to Charlton and Millwall life !!!
I wasn't aware that all conversation on a football forum has to be exclusively about one team?? Change the d to an m at the beginning of your username and we may have a more appropriate name.
and you should drop the first five letters of your name ,ay,DICK
The regeneration / gentrification of SE London and how this might affect both Charlton and Millwall should not go unnoticed by supporters of either club. It may be sensible for the CAS Trust to seek a dialogue with the Lions Trust, so that, mutually, we may safeguard our common interests.
Interesting idea ...probably impractical and, to be honest, not required ...but who knows.
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In the meantime, since 2004, Renewal Group, have been buying plots of land elsewhere on the site through other subsidiaries and have since submitted a planning application. For this to succeed they needed other areas of land which Lewisham produced CPO's for so the overall scheme can be implemented.
It appears Renewal may also want to use the land that we currently lease from Lewisham and last week Lewisham have agreed to sell this land to Renewal, so they are our new landlords, whilst our plans for the land have been discarded.
Interestingly, David Sullivan, an ex-Labour Lewisham council leader is the head of the Renewal New company buying the land, from a Labour run council without others seemingly being able to bid on the land.
The reason Charlton fans should be worried is if we go, you may find Millwall FC pitching up in Kent!!
I'll get my shoes on...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=346f8b6be30a5e9d07e0610ca287e69f&t=1688692&page=5
The 2nd picture is the best. Notice the three little scamps wandering around with brand new flags because the feckers have fluked it to Wembley again and their dads used to know Harry the Dog so they are Spanners for a day...
many games have I seen
Following South East London Allstars
My favourite team
No-one likes us, likes us, likes us
And that's the way we like it, we like it we like it
Whooooaaaoooaaaoo
We would be unstoppable
Book a pitch on Blackheath?
Excecise yard at Brixton so you can all go?
Only trying to help.
Here's an article about the situation:
http://thequaypoint.co.uk/2014/02/04/lions-angered-by-lewishams-renewal-plans-around-the-den/
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
You won't be surprised to learn that directors from Renewal are also directors for the Sports Foundation.