But didnt that Angeldust fellah comment the deal was off or in doubt only 48hrs ago?
The Standard Liege fan I spoke to today said that they were initially unhappy with him but that seems to have settled down now and that as a proactive fan base were quite content to hate previous owners, dislike current ones and be suspicious of any potential new ones....
None of us know how the next few years will pan out but I am more optimistic than I have been for a long while.
He isn't a Charlton supporter, but the way he gets his return is by making us successful and selling us - If somebody can come up with a different easier way then maybe we should worry. It doesn't really matter what he does with other clubs as situations are different. Standard are top of the Belgian league, I don't see how that can be painted as bad.
i used to love this forum.. some of the posts on here are beyond me.. weve been screaming for a takeover it happens and its not even been 24hrs and people are moaning and looking to find fault. as for the comments on the loan signing thread the latest someone claiming powelly has said he dosnt fancey him is beyond comical. i despair for some of you and just wonder how you function in reaility. u could win the euros and stil moan and find fault. take a deep breath give the guy a bloody chance before u cruxify him. keep all your negative depressing ive herd this and that guff for ittv pls.
I don't think anyone is complaining, just a bit wary about his reputation. If you heard your daughter was going on a date with an alleged wife beater would you wait patiently to see with your own eyes etc. Not a great analogy, but hopefully you get what I mean. If he's pissed off fans of the other club's he's owned I'd like to know about it. But I repeat, I'm not complaining and at the moment I'm pleased it's happened.
Thank f**k we got bought before we went bust! Now Mr. D. just give our boy Powell a chance, I have a dream that with a little cash we can win the league again next season, just a striker or two, a couple in midfield and maybe two new faces in defence, not more than half a team at the most :-) and then we really will get our Charlton back.
i used to love this forum.. some of the posts on here are beyond me.. weve been screaming for a takeover it happens and its not even been 24hrs and people are moaning and looking to find fault. as for the comments on the loan signing thread the latest someone claiming powelly has said he dosnt fancey him is beyond comical. i despair for some of you and just wonder how you function in reaility. u could win the euros and stil moan and find fault. take a deep breath give the guy a bloody chance before u cruxify him. keep all your negative depressing ive herd this and that guff for ittv pls.
This. Are there any Clubs that are happy with their owners, r are fans in general just a bunch of whingers when watching owners spend their money?
i used to love this forum.. some of the posts on here are beyond me.. weve been screaming for a takeover it happens and its not even been 24hrs and people are moaning and looking to find fault. as for the comments on the loan signing thread the latest someone claiming powelly has said he dosnt fancey him is beyond comical. i despair for some of you and just wonder how you function in reaility. u could win the euros and stil moan and find fault. take a deep breath give the guy a bloody chance before u cruxify him. keep all your negative depressing ive herd this and that guff for ittv pls.
This. Moaning for moanings sake is a very difficult habit to break. Beware.
in an ideal world the other fans would be sucking him off saying what a top bloke he has been to their clubs and we'd all be pulling ourselves off saying ooooh aaaaah great we're so lucky the reports aren't great about him but we'll have to judge him in the long run on what he does to our Charlton lets not forget there was plenty of cock sucking of TJ and Slater after the promotion from League One but that was a bit of premature ejaculation as well
*sorry for the crude language but niceties aren't my scene *
in an ideal world the other fans would be sucking him off saying what a top bloke he has been to their clubs and we'd all be pulling ourselves off saying ooooh aaaaah great we're so lucky the reports aren't great about him but we'll have to judge him in the long run on what he does to our Charlton lets not forget there was plenty of cock sucking of TJ and Slater after the promotion from League One but that was a bit of premature ejaculation as well
*sorry for the crude language but niceties aren't my scene *
I've taken my time before posting on this thread, partly because I was interested in viewing others' thoughts and partly because I'm a sickly Fanny today ( more so having just seen the caricature that is Paul McCartney on the Graham Norton compilation! Yuk ! )
For what it's worth, I'm relieved that the baton has finally been passed on today, hopefully from butter fingers TJ to the safe hands of RD. Everyone knew that the situation we found ourselves in was untenable and change had to come. Whatever has transpired behind the scenes is now water under the pitch /bridge and boy didn't it sound messy ! The word "rumour" has now changed its meaning and will be in the next edition of the OED as " A true/untrue state of affairs concerning the takeover/non takeover of Charlton Athletic FC"
We must now look to the future & trust that with guidance from Richard Murray and the gaffer, RD will be inducted into "The Charlton Way" , or as some might say "Charltonised" but in the best possible way...And we, the fans have our part to play in helping our new owner to appreciate just how special is our Club. The way in which we support our team through the good and not so good performances will show how passionate we are & how much we appreciate not only results, but also effort, energy and the spirit that is currently such a positive factor in the squad.
Change is not always easy to accept and the lads will by now have realised that they will have to fight even harder to warrant their places in the starting line up. But if anyone is able to maintain said team spirit, it's Chris Powell. It's been a while since he has had any money to spend & we should be confident he'll use it wisely. Chris epitomises all that is good in our Club and I can't believe it will take RD long to appreciate the gem he has onboard.
Only time will tell whether the new regime will herald a successful era for our Club and it won't happen overnight. But the first steps have been positive ones with immediate attention given to one of our weak points ie the state of the pitch, plus the loan of a left midfielder following the departure of Cameron Stewart- both priorities clearly identified and addressed. We may well have to wait a further 7 days to decide how successful both actions have been but I believe they are signs of a proactive owner not prepared to sit on his hands. With this in mind, I trust that a good relationship with mutual respect will be quickly be forged between owner & manager - something that we feared was lacking previously.
So, let's give a very warm welcome to Monsieur Duchelet when he's introduced to us at The Valley as assuredly he will be and make him feel at home. This is a new start for our Club after a turbulent 3 years & we should embrace it as such. The rollercoaster is currently in hibernation - let's hope it's permanently knackered !
I'm very much glass half full about Rolly. As VFF says we were heading for relegation, administration, possibly a drop into League 2 and maybe Greenwich Park- who knows? The new owner means we avoid this at least for a few years at worse. I'll take that.
Happy to give Roland D the benefit of the doubt. Because of his business model he's more susceptible to supporter activism than TJ & Slater and so we need to build up our supporter networks and our links to supporters from our sister clubs.
We mustn't fall prey to knee jerk negativity in my view. There's a good chance that our interests are aligned and if not let's be prepared to show him that South London's finest are no mugs.
The takeover is, on a short (and probably medium) term basis, undoubtedly good news because we were withering on the vine "in every important respect" ( to utilise Michael Slater's vernacular ) under the current regime. They wanted out last Summer and had neither the appetite or, apparently, the resources to keep us competitive in this division or maintain stability and equilibrium within the club generally. Interesting to see Jiminez positing his views again in the Huffington Post. At least the man has been entirely consistent to the end in never directly addressing CAFC supporters. Cheers, Tone !
A smart move on every level by RD to keep Richard Murray involved. RD will want to have a good look at what he's acquired, although hopefully we'll get a couple of further loans in (including a desperately needed striker) and also open contract negotiations with the key players of value that we otherwise stand to lose for nothing at the end of the season, namely, Wiggins, Morrison, Kermogant and Stephens (if the latter is prepared to re-sign). Leaving it this late hasn't helped but hopefully we can secure most of them.
RD will also, I am sure, have been advised of the extremely high regard in which Chris Powell is held by the vast majority of Charlton supporters and, indeed, throughout the game generally. Be that as it may, I wouldn't expect RD to table a new contract immediately - he needs to be comfortable with Chris and vice-versa - although hopefully there will be positive discussions at an early stage and a deal can be put to bed sooner rather than later.
The immediate objective (in addition to making the pitch playable) must be to ease our way out of relegation trouble and restore some much needed stability to the club, both on and off the field. Once we have secured our future as a Championship club, we can then look ahead and plan for next season.
In more general terms, it will be very interesting indeed to hear what plans RD has for us and - more to the point - how he intends to go about moving us forward. Clubs of our stature are operating in an extremely challenging football environment and I, for one, would be more than happy with stabilising the ship and then looking to progress incrementally over the next few seasons.
As to the longer term merits (or demerits) of the takeover, we shall have to wait and see. We've all been excited and subsequently disappointed by new owners in the past (Mark Hulyer and Sunley, to name but two) but hope springs eternal.
I would suggest that all Charlton fans give RD a chance, judge him by his actions rather than hearsay, and keep the gloom and doom for the Ashes thread...
in an ideal world the other fans would be sucking him off saying what a top bloke he has been to their clubs and we'd all be pulling ourselves off saying ooooh aaaaah great we're so lucky the reports aren't great about him but we'll have to judge him in the long run on what he does to our Charlton lets not forget there was plenty of cock sucking of TJ and Slater after the promotion from League One but that was a bit of premature ejaculation as well
*sorry for the crude language but niceties aren't my scene *
Some of the conspiracy theories amaze me: 'RD just wants to take over The Valley and charge CAFC to use it'. Well, we, as a club, are in significant debt and lose money each year (meaning that the owner either has to put in more and more money each year or persuade someone to lend ever more) so who, in there right mind, would lend us even more money each year solely for RD to put it on his pocket?
'He will lend us players from his other clubs that are no good' - what would be the good of that??? It is still expensive to move players to different countries for a time.
I, for one, hope that he wants to run things in a sensible, profitable fashion (better that than the opposite) because the only way for him to make a profit is for us to be in a better position when he leaves than when he arrived, probably by being in the Premiership.
If you think about SL they are one of the bigger name clubs in Europe probably one of biggest in Belgium so the fans are used to more success and have probably had other owners splashing the cash in the past. They are used to buying Million plus players so along comes Roland with his mathematical, cautious approach so they clearly are not used to this type of ownership. We on the other hand are fairly used to not much in the way of named players, have been a selling club etc so maybe this guy's approach would be better for us and slowly build from the bottom up which I believe S & J started and let Powell & Hart manage. Good business sense
My own conspiracy theory is that, ironically, the sheer expense of running a club in England is our greatest asset!
It seems clear that he is building a pan-European empire of teams, the smaller ones acting as local feeder clubs for the bigger clubs, picking up local talent and feeding it to the bigger club's teams and academies, and providing valuable experience for young pros from the bigger clubs.
It makes no sense to have an English club as a 'feeder' in this system - it is just too expensive. The only thing that makes sense is that he intends us to be at the peak of this pyramid, in the Premiership, all the resources of the other clubs working to help us get ahead.
With all due respect to Standard Liege, there is just far less to gain and far less to lose in the Belgian leagues, so, although I am sure he would not damage them, in the short term, to get us ahead, in the longer term I suspect that we will see quite a lot of good young Belgian players heading our way.
Comments
The Standard Liege fan I spoke to today said that they were initially unhappy with him but that seems to have settled down now and that as a proactive fan base were quite content to hate previous owners, dislike current ones and be suspicious of any potential new ones....
None of us know how the next few years will pan out but I am more optimistic than I have been for a long while.
LLL&BH
Where in the wilds of Norfolk are you?
But I repeat, I'm not complaining and at the moment I'm pleased it's happened.
Are there any Clubs that are happy with their owners, r are fans in general just a bunch of whingers when watching owners spend their money?
the reports aren't great about him but we'll have to judge him in the long run on what he does to our Charlton
lets not forget there was plenty of cock sucking of TJ and Slater after the promotion from League One but that was a bit of premature ejaculation as well
*sorry for the crude language but niceties aren't my scene *
10% sucking him off...... 10% pulling him off...... 80% punching him in the nuts
For what it's worth, I'm relieved that the baton has finally been passed on today, hopefully from butter fingers TJ to the safe hands of RD. Everyone knew that the situation we found ourselves in was untenable and change had to come. Whatever has transpired behind the scenes is now water under the pitch /bridge and boy didn't it sound messy ! The word "rumour" has now changed its meaning and will be in the next edition of the OED as " A true/untrue state of affairs concerning the takeover/non takeover of Charlton Athletic FC"
We must now look to the future & trust that with guidance from Richard Murray and the gaffer, RD will be inducted into "The Charlton Way" , or as some might say "Charltonised" but in the best possible way...And we, the fans have our part to play in helping our new owner to appreciate just how special is our Club. The way in which we support our team through the good and not so good performances will show how passionate we are & how much we appreciate not only results, but also effort, energy and the spirit that is currently such a positive factor in the squad.
Change is not always easy to accept and the lads will by now have realised that they will have to fight even harder to warrant their places in the starting line up. But if anyone is able to maintain said team spirit, it's Chris Powell. It's been a while since he has had any money to spend & we should be confident he'll use it wisely. Chris epitomises all that is good in our Club and I can't believe it will take RD long to appreciate the gem he has onboard.
Only time will tell whether the new regime will herald a successful era for our Club and it won't happen overnight. But the first steps have been positive ones with immediate attention given to one of our weak points ie the state of the pitch, plus the loan of a left midfielder following the departure of Cameron Stewart- both priorities clearly identified and addressed. We may well have to wait a further 7 days to decide how successful both actions have been but I believe they are signs of a proactive owner not prepared to sit on his hands. With this in mind, I trust that a good relationship with mutual respect will be quickly be forged between owner & manager - something that we feared was lacking previously.
So, let's give a very warm welcome to Monsieur Duchelet when he's introduced to us at The Valley as assuredly he will be and make him feel at home. This is a new start for our Club after a turbulent 3 years & we should embrace it as such. The rollercoaster is currently in hibernation - let's hope it's permanently knackered !
Onwards & upwards !!!!
I'm very much glass half full about Rolly. As VFF says we were heading for relegation, administration, possibly a drop into League 2 and maybe Greenwich Park- who knows? The new owner means we avoid this at least for a few years at worse. I'll take that.
Happy to give Roland D the benefit of the doubt. Because of his business model he's more susceptible to supporter activism than TJ & Slater and so we need to build up our supporter networks and our links to supporters from our sister clubs.
We mustn't fall prey to knee jerk negativity in my view. There's a good chance that our interests are aligned and if not let's be prepared to show him that South London's finest are no mugs.
COYA!
A smart move on every level by RD to keep Richard Murray involved. RD will want to have a good look at what he's acquired, although hopefully we'll get a couple of further loans in (including a desperately needed striker) and also open contract negotiations with the key players of value that we otherwise stand to lose for nothing at the end of the season, namely, Wiggins, Morrison, Kermogant and Stephens (if the latter is prepared to re-sign). Leaving it this late hasn't helped but hopefully we can secure most of them.
RD will also, I am sure, have been advised of the extremely high regard in which Chris Powell is held by the vast majority of Charlton supporters and, indeed, throughout the game generally. Be that as it may, I wouldn't expect RD to table a new contract immediately - he needs to be comfortable with Chris and vice-versa - although hopefully there will be positive discussions at an early stage and a deal can be put to bed sooner rather than later.
The immediate objective (in addition to making the pitch playable) must be to ease our way out of relegation trouble and restore some much needed stability to the club, both on and off the field. Once we have secured our future as a Championship club, we can then look ahead and plan for next season.
In more general terms, it will be very interesting indeed to hear what plans RD has for us and - more to the point - how he intends to go about moving us forward. Clubs of our stature are operating in an extremely challenging football environment and I, for one, would be more than happy with stabilising the ship and then looking to progress incrementally over the next few seasons.
As to the longer term merits (or demerits) of the takeover, we shall have to wait and see. We've all been excited and subsequently disappointed by new owners in the past (Mark Hulyer and Sunley, to name but two) but hope springs eternal.
Well put.
'He will lend us players from his other clubs that are no good' - what would be the good of that??? It is still expensive to move players to different countries for a time.
I, for one, hope that he wants to run things in a sensible, profitable fashion (better that than the opposite) because the only way for him to make a profit is for us to be in a better position when he leaves than when he arrived, probably by being in the Premiership.
As others have said - give the guy a chance!
I, for one, hope that he wants
It seems clear that he is building a pan-European empire of teams, the smaller ones acting as local feeder clubs for the bigger clubs, picking up local talent and feeding it to the bigger club's teams and academies, and providing valuable experience for young pros from the bigger clubs.
It makes no sense to have an English club as a 'feeder' in this system - it is just too expensive. The only thing that makes sense is that he intends us to be at the peak of this pyramid, in the Premiership, all the resources of the other clubs working to help us get ahead.
With all due respect to Standard Liege, there is just far less to gain and far less to lose in the Belgian leagues, so, although I am sure he would not damage them, in the short term, to get us ahead, in the longer term I suspect that we will see quite a lot of good young Belgian players heading our way.