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    Group E 
    Results and Current Table

    Xiao Guodong 3-1 Jordan Brown
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 2-2 Ken Doherty 

    Xiao Guodong 3 Points 
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 1 Point
    Ken Doherty 1 Point 
    Jordan Brown 0 Points
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    Group F 
    Result and Current Table 

    David Gilbert 3-1 Mark King

    Kyren Wilson 3 Points
    Scott Donaldson 3 Points
    David Gilbert 3 Points
    Mark King 0 Points  
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    edited October 2020
    Group E 
    Result and Current Table

    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 3-1 Jordan Brown

    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 4 Point
    Xiao Guodong 3 Points 
    Ken Doherty 1 Point 
    Jordan Brown 0 Points 
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    Both tables resume at 5.30 with the remaining 3 matches
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    Group F 
    Result and Current Table 

    Kyren Wilson 2-2 Scott Donaldson 

    Kyren Wilson 4 Points
    Scott Donaldson 4 Points
    David Gilbert 3 Points
    Mark King 0 Points   

    Each player has one match left and other than Mark King the group is still anones to win
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    Group E 
    Result and Current Table

    Ken Doherty 3-1 Xiao Guodong 

    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 4 Point
    Ken Doherty 4 Points
    Xiao Guodong 3 Points  
    Jordan Brown 0 Points  

    1 match remains for each player and like group F other than Jordan Brown anyone else can still wib this group
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    Group F 
    Result and Current Table 

    Mark King 3-1 Scott Donaldson 

    Kyren Wilson 4 Points
    Scott Donaldson 4 Points
    David Gilbert 3 Points
    Mark King 3 Points   

    1 game to go Wilson v Gilbert, Winner goes through if its a draw then Wilson goes through 
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    Group E 
    Result and Current Table

    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 2-2 Xiao Guodong 

    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 5 Point
    Ken Doherty 4 Points
    Xiao Guodong 4 Points  
    Jordan Brown 0 Points   

    Final match is between Doherty and Brown and its straight forward Brown is bottom no escaping that, If Doherty wins he tops the group, any other result and its Un-Nooh who tops the group(unless its 2-2 and Doherty beats Un-Nooh top break of 135 so highly unlikely)
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    edited October 2020
    Group F 
    Result and Final Table 

    Kyren Wilson 3-0 Dave Gilbert 

    Kyren Wilson 7 Points
    Scott Donaldson 4 Points
    Mark King 3 Points
    David Gilbert 3 Points
       

    Kyren Wilson goes into Fridays final group 
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    I was going to say a massive final frame on table 2 with Doherty 2-1 ahead but he just got a 139 to go 2-1 ahead so no matter what happens in that final frame now Doherty is in Fridays final group
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    Fantastic achievement for Ken Doherty to make it to the final groups in this
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    Group E 
    Result and Final Table

    Ken Doherty 2-2 Jordan Brown

    Ken Doherty 5 Points
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 5 Point
    Xiao Guodong 4 Points  
    Jordan Brown 1 Point

    Doherty through into fridays final group
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    Group G and H tomorrow the final 2 groups of stage 2.

    Group G will be on table 1 and on Freesports 
    Group H will be on table 2 and on Matchroom.Live
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    edited October 2020
    Gotta say I really dont like this rule change that u can now concede when you opponent is at the table.

    Sae Mark King do it multiple times yesterday and Tom Ford just did it then.

    It just seems un gentlemanly and not in the spirit of snooker, can also stop your opponent getting a feel for the table

    For instance if its frame 1 and he is at the table on 50 break with 1 red left, its his right to clear up and get a proper feel for the table in frame one, he has earnt that right and you should just sit there and wait it out
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    I just stumbled across this guy on the BBC sports pages, thought it might be of interest to you snooker fans.

     https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/snooker/54692709
    Someone posted back only a few posts ago mate. :) I love things like that, whilst there has been some bits on twitter which is just mean or trying to be funny. But great admiration for anyone who deals with their disabilities and doesn't set them back from what they enjoy. 
    I did check before posting, must have missed it. 
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    Gotta say I really dont like this rule change that u can now concede when you opponent is at the table.

    Sae Mark King do it multiple times yesterday and Tom Ford just did it then.

    It just seems un gentlemanly and not in the spirit of snooker, can also stop your opponent getting a feel for the table

    For instance if its frame 1 and he is at the table on 50 break with 1 red left, its his right to clear up and get a proper feel for the table in frame one, he has earnt that right and you should just sit there and wait it out
    If your opponent concedes whilst you're at the table, is there anything in the rules that says you can't continue?
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    Gotta say I really dont like this rule change that u can now concede when you opponent is at the table.

    Sae Mark King do it multiple times yesterday and Tom Ford just did it then.

    It just seems un gentlemanly and not in the spirit of snooker, can also stop your opponent getting a feel for the table

    For instance if its frame 1 and he is at the table on 50 break with 1 red left, its his right to clear up and get a proper feel for the table in frame one, he has earnt that right and you should just sit there and wait it out
    If your opponent concedes whilst you're at the table, is there anything in the rules that says you can't continue?
    Not sure TBH its a very new rule.

    And everytime someone has done it so far thats the end of the frame, so would be interesting to see if a player does say but I want to carry on lol
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    Is it a rule or just a change in the etiquette of the game? I don't mind a concession if for example there's one red left and one player has been playing for snookers and then his opponent pots the red. But I don't like the idea of a concession when someone is in the middle of a break.
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    edited October 2020
    Is it a rule or just a change in the etiquette of the game? I don't mind a concession if for example there's one red left and one player has been playing for snookers and then his opponent pots the red. But I don't like the idea of a concession when someone is in the middle of a break.
    Its an official rule change, commentators have mentioned it a few times now, one player at the table gets to snookers required and the other player just concedes.

    I saw it a few times with King yesterday it wasnt even a case were he tried to play on for snookers on anything then just gave up.



    That was one of the times, that time Wilsom had only potted 1 ball then King conceded but in an earlier frame Wilson had about a 30 break and King conceded.

    When does it stop, can u concede if your opponent has 99 and u dont want them to get a century just to piss them off?
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    Group G
    Results and Current Table

    John Higgins 3-0 Jamie Clarke
    Tom Ford 2-2 Martin Gould

    John Higgins 3 Points
    Tom Ford 1 Point
    Martin Gould 1 Point
    Jamie Clarke 0 Points
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    Group H
    Results and Current Table 

    Mark Davis 2-2 Li Hang
    Joe Perry 3-1 Tian Pengfei

    Joe Perry 3 Points
    Mark Davis 1 Point
    Li Hang 1 Point
    Tian Pengfei 0 Points
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    Is it a rule or just a change in the etiquette of the game? I don't mind a concession if for example there's one red left and one player has been playing for snookers and then his opponent pots the red. But I don't like the idea of a concession when someone is in the middle of a break.
    Its an official rule change, commentators have mentioned it a few times now, one player at the table gets to snookers required and the other player just concedes.

    I saw it a few times with King yesterday it wasnt even a case were he tried to play on for snookers on anything then just gave up.



    That was one of the times, that time Wilsom had only potted 1 ball then King conceded but in an earlier frame Wilson had about a 30 break and King conceded.

    When does it stop, can u concede if your opponent has 99 and u dont want them to get a century just to piss them off?
         Especially in these mini league formats where highest break is a decider.
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    Group H
    Result and Current Table 

    Joe Perry 3-0 Li Hang

    Joe Perry 6 Points
    Mark Davis 1 Point
    Li Hang 1 Point
    Tian Pengfei 0 Points

    Play resumes at 5.30 on table 2
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    Group G
    Result and Current Table 

    Tom Ford 2-2 Jamie Clarke

    John Higgins 3 Points
    Tom Ford 2 Points
    Martin Gould 1 Point
    Jamie Clarke 1 Point

    Play resumes at 5.30 on table 1, so just under half an hour now 
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    Gotta say I really dont like this rule change that u can now concede when you opponent is at the table.

    Sae Mark King do it multiple times yesterday and Tom Ford just did it then.

    It just seems un gentlemanly and not in the spirit of snooker, can also stop your opponent getting a feel for the table

    For instance if its frame 1 and he is at the table on 50 break with 1 red left, its his right to clear up and get a proper feel for the table in frame one, he has earnt that right and you should just sit there and wait it out
    Would you say its like giving an opponent the black in pool? It happens alot if its over the pocket and people will just give it or mess the table up to give the frame to get on with the next. 

    I try not to do it, although sometimes i will in practice with someone. I have mixed views it can be poor sportsmanship i agree, also sometimes its just not worth it and just makes the game quicker. I have been guilty and try to default as let my opponent pot the easy black although sometimes its even expected they will ask. 

    Regarding snooker if its early frames it should be courtesy and mostly happens, but if its to speed the game up as effectively that claim is won. Conceding out of turn is poor form but i could understand depending the way they do it, also if early on in or as a needle, they would factor into it. 
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    Group G
    Result and Current Table 

    Martin Gould 3-0 John Higgins

    Martin Gould 4 Points
    John Higgins 3 Points
    Tom Ford 2 Points
    Jamie Clarke 1 Point

    All players still have 1 match left and its still anyones
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    Group H
    Result and Current Table 

    Mark Davis 2-2 Tian Pengfei

    Joe Perry 6 Points
    Mark Davis 2 Point
    Li Hang 1 Point
    Tian Pengfei 1 Point

    Everyone still has 1 match to go, but they are playing for places now as Joe Perry is through to tomorrow's final group 
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    Group G
    Result and Current Table 

    Martin Gould 2-2 Jamie Clarke

    Martin Gould 5 Points
    John Higgins 3 Points
    Tom Ford 2 Points
    Jamie Clarke 2 Point 

    Last game is between Higgins and Ford

    If Higgins wins-he goes through 
    If its a draw Gould goes through 
    If Ford wins 3-0 with a break of over 70 he goes through.
    If Ford wins any other score or without a break of 70 plus Gould goes through
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    Group H
    Result and Current Table 

    Joe Perry 2-2 Mark Davis

    Joe Perry 7 Points
    Mark Davis 3 Points
    Li Hang 1 Point
    Tian Pengfei 1 Point 
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    Group G
    Result and Final Table 

    John Higgins 3-0 Tom Ford

    John Higgins 6 Points
    Martin Gould 5 Points
    Tom Ford 2 Points
    Jamie Clarke 2 Point  

    So John Higgins is the last man into the final group
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