cafctom - quite right. He's just given a full description of his role in one of the largest communication tools the club have. But that is not good enough for people. Some people are just not happy. We were told he was part time and now we are told by the man himself he is actively working everyday. Snipes because he hasn't signed many/any players for a fee, like that is his fault.
To break that down
"He's just given" Yes and how long has he been in post? Why wait so long to give such a bland message. Some would say he is just responding to criticism in VOTV and elsewhere rather than actively engaging with fans.
"one of largest communication tools the Club have" but not the biggest. Like the financial news from David Joyes in the Millwall programme I doubt very much we will see this on the largest and most read tool ie the OS. But the OS is read by journalists and can be easily reproduced by them and blogs etc PS has anyone commented on the Joyes financial news here or elsewhere?
"Some people are just not happy" Agree with you there. On the other hand some people refuse to see any problems whatsoever.
"He hasn't signed many/any players" True. We haven't BOUGHT a player since he has come. Loans and out of contract players but not signed a single player for a fee from another club. No money? No ability to broker a more complicated deal? Who knows but he's doesn't tell us, that's for sure.
"Told by the man he is actively working every day" So he maybe but that does mean he is working full time as you implied. If he is full time then why not say that. If someone works 2 hours a day then are they full time or part time.
Yes, well done Martin but too little, too late. I look forward to your next missive in 18 months time.
Snce when is responding to criticism a bad thing? Would you prefer he said nothing at all?
I would point out that all journalists get given a copy of the programme at the match, I doubt many go to the OS for 'news'. As for being 'easily reproduced by them and blogs' that would be called plagerism and most actual journalists are not big fans of it. And I see those that want have managed quite easily to reproduce it here. I would suspect most real journalists would read what's in the programme and then ask for a direct comment. If they don't get that they don't run anything. It is rare for information on offical outlets (be in programmes, OS, press releases etc) to get reproduced in full without further comment and reporting by the journalist.
And next we look at 'actively working' why do you need that to be further defined? Do you actively work all day every day? I suspect no-one who posts on here every day could say they do. Can we al still do our jobs? I'm guessing yes.
But I will agree with you on one thing - too little too late. Those that dislike Prothero, will continue to do so just because he's not Airman and hasn't gone out of his way to stroke fans egos. Personally I don't know or care what he does at work, any more than I want the call centre to justify themselves to me. Those that pay the piper call the tune.
He may as well have not bothered if his intention was to change minds on here. Except that I imagine it wasn't. It was to speak to all the other thousands of fans who just want to hear news from their club and have no preconceived opinions, or previous knowledge of how the club works to compare it with.
For someone who doesn't care what he does you spend a lot of time defending and justifying him and everything else at the Club while at the same time having some sly and not so sly digs at those fans who don't see it the way you do.
I'm not sure life is actually that black and white. Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration. I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over. Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is playing the piano And what it all comes down to my friends Is that everything's just fine fine fine 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
cafctom - quite right. He's just given a full description of his role in one of the largest communication tools the club have. But that is not good enough for people. Some people are just not happy. We were told he was part time and now we are told by the man himself he is actively working everyday. Snipes because he hasn't signed many/any players for a fee, like that is his fault.
To break that down
"He's just given" Yes and how long has he been in post? Why wait so long to give such a bland message. Some would say he is just responding to criticism in VOTV and elsewhere rather than actively engaging with fans.
"one of largest communication tools the Club have" but not the biggest. Like the financial news from David Joyes in the Millwall programme I doubt very much we will see this on the largest and most read tool ie the OS. But the OS is read by journalists and can be easily reproduced by them and blogs etc PS has anyone commented on the Joyes financial news here or elsewhere?
"Some people are just not happy" Agree with you there. On the other hand some people refuse to see any problems whatsoever.
"He hasn't signed many/any players" True. We haven't BOUGHT a player since he has come. Loans and out of contract players but not signed a single player for a fee from another club. No money? No ability to broker a more complicated deal? Who knows but he's doesn't tell us, that's for sure.
"Told by the man he is actively working every day" So he maybe but that does mean he is working full time as you implied. If he is full time then why not say that. If someone works 2 hours a day then are they full time or part time.
Yes, well done Martin but too little, too late. I look forward to your next missive in 18 months time.
Snce when is responding to criticism a bad thing? Would you prefer he said nothing at all?
I would point out that all journalists get given a copy of the programme at the match, I doubt many go to the OS for 'news'. As for being 'easily reproduced by them and blogs' that would be called plagerism and most actual journalists are not big fans of it. And I see those that want have managed quite easily to reproduce it here. I would suspect most real journalists would read what's in the programme and then ask for a direct comment. If they don't get that they don't run anything. It is rare for information on offical outlets (be in programmes, OS, press releases etc) to get reproduced in full without further comment and reporting by the journalist.
And next we look at 'actively working' why do you need that to be further defined? Do you actively work all day every day? I suspect no-one who posts on here every day could say they do. Can we al still do our jobs? I'm guessing yes.
But I will agree with you on one thing - too little too late. Those that dislike Prothero, will continue to do so just because he's not Airman and hasn't gone out of his way to stroke fans egos. Personally I don't know or care what he does at work, any more than I want the call centre to justify themselves to me. Those that pay the piper call the tune.
He may as well have not bothered if his intention was to change minds on here. Except that I imagine it wasn't. It was to speak to all the other thousands of fans who just want to hear news from their club and have no preconceived opinions, or previous knowledge of how the club works to compare it with.
For someone who doesn't care what he does you spend a lot of time defending and justifying him and everything else at the Club while at the same time having some sly and not so sly digs at those fans who don't see it the way you do.
I'm not sure life is actually that black and white. Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration. I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over. Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is playing the piano And what it all comes down to my friends Is that everything's just fine fine fine 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
But you are doing it again "those that hate Prothero" Another dig at the fans who don't like what he is doing or not doing who according to you are only doing so because he "hasn't stroked their egos". You are the one making it a love/hate or black/white case by claiming that anyone who voices any form of unhappiness with the current regime is a "doom monger", "hater" while others have used "bed wetters" etc etc but have rarely offered anything constructive beyond that.
I would love to debate the pros and cons of the current regime and leave the personalities and the personal insults out of it but it is impossible as as soon as you mention that yet another person has left I and others are accused of having "an agenda", being "doom mongers" etc etc and so the debate is closed down.
Didn't get the song reference unless you mixed up Buzzcocks and Brave New World : - )
cafctom - quite right. He's just given a full description of his role in one of the largest communication tools the club have. But that is not good enough for people. Some people are just not happy. We were told he was part time and now we are told by the man himself he is actively working everyday. Snipes because he hasn't signed many/any players for a fee, like that is his fault.
To break that down
"He's just given" Yes and how long has he been in post? Why wait so long to give such a bland message. Some would say he is just responding to criticism in VOTV and elsewhere rather than actively engaging with fans.
"one of largest communication tools the Club have" but not the biggest. Like the financial news from David Joyes in the Millwall programme I doubt very much we will see this on the largest and most read tool ie the OS. But the OS is read by journalists and can be easily reproduced by them and blogs etc PS has anyone commented on the Joyes financial news here or elsewhere?
"Some people are just not happy" Agree with you there. On the other hand some people refuse to see any problems whatsoever.
"He hasn't signed many/any players" True. We haven't BOUGHT a player since he has come. Loans and out of contract players but not signed a single player for a fee from another club. No money? No ability to broker a more complicated deal? Who knows but he's doesn't tell us, that's for sure.
"Told by the man he is actively working every day" So he maybe but that does mean he is working full time as you implied. If he is full time then why not say that. If someone works 2 hours a day then are they full time or part time.
Yes, well done Martin but too little, too late. I look forward to your next missive in 18 months time.
Snce when is responding to criticism a bad thing? Would you prefer he said nothing at all?
I would point out that all journalists get given a copy of the programme at the match, I doubt many go to the OS for 'news'. As for being 'easily reproduced by them and blogs' that would be called plagerism and most actual journalists are not big fans of it. And I see those that want have managed quite easily to reproduce it here. I would suspect most real journalists would read what's in the programme and then ask for a direct comment. If they don't get that they don't run anything. It is rare for information on offical outlets (be in programmes, OS, press releases etc) to get reproduced in full without further comment and reporting by the journalist.
And next we look at 'actively working' why do you need that to be further defined? Do you actively work all day every day? I suspect no-one who posts on here every day could say they do. Can we al still do our jobs? I'm guessing yes.
But I will agree with you on one thing - too little too late. Those that dislike Prothero, will continue to do so just because he's not Airman and hasn't gone out of his way to stroke fans egos. Personally I don't know or care what he does at work, any more than I want the call centre to justify themselves to me. Those that pay the piper call the tune.
He may as well have not bothered if his intention was to change minds on here. Except that I imagine it wasn't. It was to speak to all the other thousands of fans who just want to hear news from their club and have no preconceived opinions, or previous knowledge of how the club works to compare it with.
For someone who doesn't care what he does you spend a lot of time defending and justifying him and everything else at the Club while at the same time having some sly and not so sly digs at those fans who don't see it the way you do.
I'm not sure life is actually that black and white. Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration. I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over. Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is playing the piano And what it all comes down to my friends Is that everything's just fine fine fine 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
But you are doing it again "those that hate Prothero" Another dig at the fans who don't like what he is doing or not doing who according to you are only doing so because he "hasn't stroked their egos". You are the one making it a love/hate or black/white case by claiming that anyone who voices any form of unhappiness with the current regime is a "doom monger", "hater" while others have used "bed wetters" etc etc but have rarely offered anything constructive beyond that.
I would love to debate the pros and cons of the current regime and leave the personalities and the personal insults out of it but it is impossible as as soon as you mention that yet another person has left I and others are accused of having "an agenda", being "doom mongers" etc etc and so the debate is closed down.
Didn't get the song reference unless you mixed up Buzzcocks and Brave New World : - )
Did I say you did? My point being that it's ok for you to have a pop at DRF for having "another dig at the fans who don't like what he's doing" but I notice you don't have a pop at those posters who dig out Prothero based upon what pied piper Everett says calling him part time etc. Prothero explained his role in the program and until there's further evidence, I will take that as read. Just because he doesn't accept your invitation to be hounded at Bromley Addicks doesn't necessarily means he's nicking a wage, without contributing anything. I want answers and clarification of what these owners are doing with my club but any newbie employed under the current regime appears fair game on here.
cafctom - quite right. He's just given a full description of his role in one of the largest communication tools the club have. But that is not good enough for people. Some people are just not happy. We were told he was part time and now we are told by the man himself he is actively working everyday. Snipes because he hasn't signed many/any players for a fee, like that is his fault.
To break that down
"He's just given" Yes and how long has he been in post? Why wait so long to give such a bland message. Some would say he is just responding to criticism in VOTV and elsewhere rather than actively engaging with fans.
"one of largest communication tools the Club have" but not the biggest. Like the financial news from David Joyes in the Millwall programme I doubt very much we will see this on the largest and most read tool ie the OS. But the OS is read by journalists and can be easily reproduced by them and blogs etc PS has anyone commented on the Joyes financial news here or elsewhere?
"Some people are just not happy" Agree with you there. On the other hand some people refuse to see any problems whatsoever.
"He hasn't signed many/any players" True. We haven't BOUGHT a player since he has come. Loans and out of contract players but not signed a single player for a fee from another club. No money? No ability to broker a more complicated deal? Who knows but he's doesn't tell us, that's for sure.
"Told by the man he is actively working every day" So he maybe but that does mean he is working full time as you implied. If he is full time then why not say that. If someone works 2 hours a day then are they full time or part time.
Yes, well done Martin but too little, too late. I look forward to your next missive in 18 months time.
Snce when is responding to criticism a bad thing? Would you prefer he said nothing at all?
I would point out that all journalists get given a copy of the programme at the match, I doubt many go to the OS for 'news'. As for being 'easily reproduced by them and blogs' that would be called plagerism and most actual journalists are not big fans of it. And I see those that want have managed quite easily to reproduce it here. I would suspect most real journalists would read what's in the programme and then ask for a direct comment. If they don't get that they don't run anything. It is rare for information on offical outlets (be in programmes, OS, press releases etc) to get reproduced in full without further comment and reporting by the journalist.
And next we look at 'actively working' why do you need that to be further defined? Do you actively work all day every day? I suspect no-one who posts on here every day could say they do. Can we al still do our jobs? I'm guessing yes.
But I will agree with you on one thing - too little too late. Those that dislike Prothero, will continue to do so just because he's not Airman and hasn't gone out of his way to stroke fans egos. Personally I don't know or care what he does at work, any more than I want the call centre to justify themselves to me. Those that pay the piper call the tune.
He may as well have not bothered if his intention was to change minds on here. Except that I imagine it wasn't. It was to speak to all the other thousands of fans who just want to hear news from their club and have no preconceived opinions, or previous knowledge of how the club works to compare it with.
For someone who doesn't care what he does you spend a lot of time defending and justifying him and everything else at the Club while at the same time having some sly and not so sly digs at those fans who don't see it the way you do.
I'm not sure life is actually that black and white. Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration. I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over. Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is playing the piano And what it all comes down to my friends Is that everything's just fine fine fine 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
But you are doing it again "those that hate Prothero" Another dig at the fans who don't like what he is doing or not doing who according to you are only doing so because he "hasn't stroked their egos". You are the one making it a love/hate or black/white case by claiming that anyone who voices any form of unhappiness with the current regime is a "doom monger", "hater" while others have used "bed wetters" etc etc but have rarely offered anything constructive beyond that.
I would love to debate the pros and cons of the current regime and leave the personalities and the personal insults out of it but it is impossible as as soon as you mention that yet another person has left I and others are accused of having "an agenda", being "doom mongers" etc etc and so the debate is closed down.
Didn't get the song reference unless you mixed up Buzzcocks and Brave New World : - )
So calling him part time prothero is ok then?
I think you are getting your cocks and sparrows confused. Or your knobs and knockers.
It's not often I hear a bit of gossip and this was second hand, but supposedly (& this comes from someone in the football retail world) Prothero talked TJ out of sacking Powell - so for that reason (if it's true) I'm happy for him to be around!
It's not often I hear a bit of gossip and this was second hand, but supposedly (& this comes from someone in the football retail world) Prothero talked TJ out of sacking Powell - so for that reason (if it's true) I'm happy for him to be around!
If it is true mate I reckon he'll be getting love letters and all sorts off of here.
cafctom - quite right. He's just given a full description of his role in one of the largest communication tools the club have. But that is not good enough for people. Some people are just not happy. We were told he was part time and now we are told by the man himself he is actively working everyday. Snipes because he hasn't signed many/any players for a fee, like that is his fault.
To break that down
"He's just given" Yes and how long has he been in post? Why wait so long to give such a bland message. Some would say he is just responding to criticism in VOTV and elsewhere rather than actively engaging with fans.
"one of largest communication tools the Club have" but not the biggest. Like the financial news from David Joyes in the Millwall programme I doubt very much we will see this on the largest and most read tool ie the OS. But the OS is read by journalists and can be easily reproduced by them and blogs etc PS has anyone commented on the Joyes financial news here or elsewhere?
"Some people are just not happy" Agree with you there. On the other hand some people refuse to see any problems whatsoever.
"He hasn't signed many/any players" True. We haven't BOUGHT a player since he has come. Loans and out of contract players but not signed a single player for a fee from another club. No money? No ability to broker a more complicated deal? Who knows but he's doesn't tell us, that's for sure.
"Told by the man he is actively working every day" So he maybe but that does mean he is working full time as you implied. If he is full time then why not say that. If someone works 2 hours a day then are they full time or part time.
Yes, well done Martin but too little, too late. I look forward to your next missive in 18 months time.
Snce when is responding to criticism a bad thing? Would you prefer he said nothing at all?
I would point out that all journalists get given a copy of the programme at the match, I doubt many go to the OS for 'news'. As for being 'easily reproduced by them and blogs' that would be called plagerism and most actual journalists are not big fans of it. And I see those that want have managed quite easily to reproduce it here. I would suspect most real journalists would read what's in the programme and then ask for a direct comment. If they don't get that they don't run anything. It is rare for information on offical outlets (be in programmes, OS, press releases etc) to get reproduced in full without further comment and reporting by the journalist.
And next we look at 'actively working' why do you need that to be further defined? Do you actively work all day every day? I suspect no-one who posts on here every day could say they do. Can we al still do our jobs? I'm guessing yes.
But I will agree with you on one thing - too little too late. Those that dislike Prothero, will continue to do so just because he's not Airman and hasn't gone out of his way to stroke fans egos. Personally I don't know or care what he does at work, any more than I want the call centre to justify themselves to me. Those that pay the piper call the tune.
He may as well have not bothered if his intention was to change minds on here. Except that I imagine it wasn't. It was to speak to all the other thousands of fans who just want to hear news from their club and have no preconceived opinions, or previous knowledge of how the club works to compare it with.
For someone who doesn't care what he does you spend a lot of time defending and justifying him and everything else at the Club while at the same time having some sly and not so sly digs at those fans who don't see it the way you do.
I'm not sure life is actually that black and white. Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration. I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over. Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is playing the piano And what it all comes down to my friends Is that everything's just fine fine fine 'cause I've got one hand in my pocket And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
But you are doing it again "those that hate Prothero" Another dig at the fans who don't like what he is doing or not doing who according to you are only doing so because he "hasn't stroked their egos". You are the one making it a love/hate or black/white case by claiming that anyone who voices any form of unhappiness with the current regime is a "doom monger", "hater" while others have used "bed wetters" etc etc but have rarely offered anything constructive beyond that.
I would love to debate the pros and cons of the current regime and leave the personalities and the personal insults out of it but it is impossible as as soon as you mention that yet another person has left I and others are accused of having "an agenda", being "doom mongers" etc etc and so the debate is closed down.
Didn't get the song reference unless you mixed up Buzzcocks and Brave New World : - )
Actually, if anyone is "doing it" it's you. And this has to be one of the most blatant pot/kettle posts I have read.
I don't think there's anyone left on CL that believes all is rosy, but I despair that people will moan about anything and everything and then moan again even if they get what they ask for.
It's a bland piece. We may want to see that everything in football is glamourous & sexy, but it isn't necessarily so. I have a great friend who has been FD at four very big clubs. Much as I loved meeting up with him at his work, because it seemed a world away from what I do, at the end of the day it was an office job for him dealing with people issues all day long...not much different to what I have to do.
At the end of the day, all anyone on here is doing is speculating, because they actually don't have a clue about what someone does behind the scenes at the club. Me included!
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Henry, you have already posted inaccurate info on this thread when you said that we haven't signed a player for money under Prothero's watch when we did indeed sign Button for an undisclosed fee. And yes, I was having having a dig when I made my comment about him being hounded at Bromley addicks if he attended as that's the impression you give. My opinion only.
No, we didn't sign button for money. It was deferred until this summer at which point we had to sell button to pay what we owed Spurs.
In any case the deal for Button was done by Varney and Kavanagh just as were the deals for Quinn, Aluko, Baldock, Gower and Wilson. But TJ then pulled the plug when the players were at the Valley about to sign.
Your opinion is that Prothero would be hounded. What are you basing that on? Have you ever been to one of the meetings?
exactly this...christ you lot are quite depressing on here sometimes... you slate the guy who most of you know nothing about and then when he does go to press to inform you of his role and functions he has a responsibility for, you twist the knives further... quite sad really
It's the impression you give when certain people don't accept your invitations. No, I havent been but plan on attending as I am moving to Bromley soon.
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Henry, you have already posted inaccurate info on this thread when you said that we haven't signed a player for money under Prothero's watch when we did indeed sign Button for an undisclosed fee. And yes, I was having having a dig when I made my comment about him being hounded at Bromley addicks if he attended as that's the impression you give. My opinion only.
So, your statement about signing Button is incorrect then. Are you one going to apologise for that? Your argument is rapidly running out of steam I'm afraid.
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Henry, you have already posted inaccurate info on this thread when you said that we haven't signed a player for money under Prothero's watch when we did indeed sign Button for an undisclosed fee. And yes, I was having having a dig when I made my comment about him being hounded at Bromley addicks if he attended as that's the impression you give. My opinion only.
So, your statement about signing Button is incorrect then. Are you one going to apologise for that? Your argument is rapidly running out of steam I'm afraid.
Why is incorrect red pete? Button was signed under Prothero's watch. I don't understand why my statements wrong.
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Henry, you have already posted inaccurate info on this thread when you said that we haven't signed a player for money under Prothero's watch when we did indeed sign Button for an undisclosed fee. And yes, I was having having a dig when I made my comment about him being hounded at Bromley addicks if he attended as that's the impression you give. My opinion only.
So, your statement about signing Button is incorrect then. Are you one going to apologise for that? Your argument is rapidly running out of steam I'm afraid.
Why is incorrect red pete? Button was signed under Prothero's watch. I don't understand why my statements wrong.
Because as HI said we deferred any payment to Spurs for one year and when that year was up we couldn't make the payment so had to sell to give the money straight to the Spuds.
Could say "can't lose for some people, whatever he does is OK, doesn't matter is it takes more than a year to introduce himself as he is a top bloke" but that would be a pointless and meaningless as the posts above.
You say, SS, that that is the impression you get but from where? Other than the obvious jole about Dale Stephens who pulled out on the day who has been hounded? Come to a meeting when you move and you see just how polite and tame the evenings are. I don't even chair the meetings and covered end and AFKA ask all the hard questions : - )
Don't think we paid for Feely but you could be right.
Actually if you read back on the old threads I did say to Airman that it was wrong to focus on how much he was paid or for how long as I thought and still think it is was he does or doesn't do.
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
Henry, you have already posted inaccurate info on this thread when you said that we haven't signed a player for money under Prothero's watch when we did indeed sign Button for an undisclosed fee. And yes, I was having having a dig when I made my comment about him being hounded at Bromley addicks if he attended as that's the impression you give. My opinion only.
So, your statement about signing Button is incorrect then. Are you one going to apologise for that? Your argument is rapidly running out of steam I'm afraid.
Why is incorrect red pete? Button was signed under Prothero's watch. I don't understand why my statements wrong.
Because as HI said we deferred any payment to Spurs for one year and when that year was up we couldn't make the payment so had to sell to give the money straight to the Spuds.
Doubt that was the intention, but would suggest a decent negotiation surely to hold off a payment to decide whether he was worth it or not. Don't think he covered himself in glory when he came in for Hamer & not too many worried (apart from the financial implications) when he left.
I cant find any record on line of us paying any fee for feely it doesn't say undisclosed or x amount on the bohemians website so if anyone knows if we did pay for him how much was it
No, we didn't sign button for money. It was deferred until this summer at which point we had to sell button to pay what we owed Spurs.
Is this fact? I know it was mentioned on here but I have not seen it elsewhere in an official format. It is spoken here as fact. The only official information I can see is the article on both the Charlton and Spurs website stating it was for an undisclosed fee.
If the same article, word for word, had been penned by Kav there would have been a lot of awed appreciation from the CL chorus line. It is a bit boring, but people want to know what is going on, and they tried to address that. He works in the office, he's not a 20 goal a year centre forward.
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Those who hate Prothero, the board and the changes to the administration staff of late thinks that everyone who disagrees with them must love Prothero, the board and the new admistration.
I haven't defended him, I have simply said that some are going to hate what he says, whatever he says. That's not saying what he says is great, or that I think he, or the board are doing a great job. I'm simply saying that he won't win some over.
Just because I don't agree that everything is crap, does not mean I think its all wonderfull. At best it means I thinks it's probably OK and worst it means I'm ambivalent, which I think most fans probably are.
And what it all boils down to
Is that no one's really got it figured out just yet
'cause I've got one hand in my pocket
And the other one is playing the piano
And what it all comes down to my friends
Is that everything's just fine fine fine
'cause I've got one hand in my pocket
And the other one is hailing a taxi cab
I would love to debate the pros and cons of the current regime and leave the personalities and the personal insults out of it but it is impossible as as soon as you mention that yet another person has left I and others are accused of having "an agenda", being "doom mongers" etc etc and so the debate is closed down.
Didn't get the song reference unless you mixed up Buzzcocks and Brave New World : - )
But harsh, I think some of your midweek previews are excellent
One is aware of the Morissette canon
: - )
I don't think there's anyone left on CL that believes all is rosy, but I despair that people will moan about anything and everything and then moan again even if they get what they ask for.
It's a bland piece. We may want to see that everything in football is glamourous & sexy, but it isn't necessarily so. I have a great friend who has been FD at four very big clubs. Much as I loved meeting up with him at his work, because it seemed a world away from what I do, at the end of the day it was an office job for him dealing with people issues all day long...not much different to what I have to do.
At the end of the day, all anyone on here is doing is speculating, because they actually don't have a clue about what someone does behind the scenes at the club. Me included!
But again you have a dig about being "hounded" at Bromley Addicks when no such thing has ever happened. Not to Murray, Chappel or Slater.
I never said he was nicking a wage either but you seem to need to put words in my mouth to make your own flimsy arguement stand up.
But then again I felt he deserved it.
In any case the deal for Button was done by Varney and Kavanagh just as were the deals for Quinn, Aluko, Baldock, Gower and Wilson. But TJ then pulled the plug when the players were at the Valley about to sign.
Your opinion is that Prothero would be hounded. What are you basing that on? Have you ever been to one of the meetings?
quite sad really
It's the impression you give when certain people don't accept your invitations. No, I havent been but plan on attending as I am moving to Bromley soon.
You say, SS, that that is the impression you get but from where? Other than the obvious jole about Dale Stephens who pulled out on the day who has been hounded? Come to a meeting when you move and you see just how polite and tame the evenings are. I don't even chair the meetings and covered end and AFKA ask all the hard questions : - )
Don't think we paid for Feely but you could be right.