Patrick GraftonGreen@bromley_patrick3m Rick Everitt has reached an out of court settlement with #cafc ahead of today's scheduled employment tribunal hearing in Croydon
disappointing as I would expect that there will be a confidentially clause in there and the usual blah blah probably about them not accepting liability etc etc.
I doubt that Airman will ever be able to tell (publicly) his story but I truly hope that he feels his point is proven (why else would CAFC settle in advance) and that he is vindicated. Hopefully back in the Charlton ranks when we get new owners (please God) and doing what he does best.
If true sounds like usual Charlton. Wait until the case is about to start & then pay up.
Vast majority of employment tribunal cases are settled just before court hearing and is generally not a indication of guilt but no comment on this case.
I doubt that Airman will ever be able to tell (publicly) his story but I truly hope that he feels his point is proven (why else would CAFC settle in advance) and that he is vindicated. Hopefully back in the Charlton ranks when we get new owners (please God) and doing what he does best.
Given that Rick is a councillor it probably suited both not to go through the publicity, and both will probably feel they won.
It's just a shame that we don't have Ricks evidence now about what is going on which he said would put all doubts to rest that all was not well. So the rumours, scare mongering, heads covered in sand will continue.
Anyone know the consequences of breaking a confidentiality clause? Do you just have to give the money back or have you in shown contempt for the court proceedings and be guilty of a crime?
tbh its all a bit disappointing, but you can not be critical of someone's personal situation, I thought RE would have had a water tight case by the tone in which he posted and he may well have , but it could've paved the way for the truth to come out now its just left open to suggestion
NLA he could have but they drag it out and if you need the cash its better to settle even for a possible lower amount
I'm personally not sure of that as a reason. It's not like the club have a reputation from prompt payment so they can still drag it out. I would imagine even more so now as it is a fee they have agreed rather than a fee they have been instructed to pay.
Patrick GraftonGreen@bromley_patrick3m Rick Everitt has reached an out of court settlement with #cafc ahead of today's scheduled employment tribunal hearing in Croydon
Richard Redden has just posted this on the addicks.org email list (I assume/hope he won't object as it posted semi-publicly?):
"Just back from Rick's Employment Tribunal hearing at Croydon. He withdrew his claim against the club under confidential terms of settlement. Two reporters – from the News Shopper and The Wharf were there – but Rick could not say anything to them under the terms of the settlement.
One other Charlton fan was present besides me. I went after a call yesterday from a well-connected person in the club who suggested I might get some real behind-the-scenes insight into how the club works under the present ownership. In the event, there was not much to report. Charlton were defended by two lawyers while Rick represented himself.
As a junior reporter in Sheffield nearly half a century ago I used to cover employment tribunals and the system has certainly changed since my day. The case officially started at 10 and I was given the choice of sitting in the room of the plaintiffs or the respondents' room. I told the usher I was a neutral observer but the tribunal doesn't seem to recognise that position. So I opted for the respondents' room just in case any executives or directors of the club were present. I soon recognised the Charlton lawyers, sat down near them and asked if they were there for the Charlton case – they confirmed that and then promptly moved to another desk to be out of earshot. They didn't speak one word to me after that.
In my day, you all packed together in one waiting room and could often almost physically feel the tension between the two sides.
In the respondents' room, the hours passed slowly but I got to know the other cases of the day, e.g. one against the Chief Constable of Sussex and another against British Airways. Then I twigged that one of the Charlton lawyers was occasionally leaving the room to talk to Rick.
At 1.30 we were all called before the judge and the session lasted just a minute or so after the three-and-a-half hours of waiting.
And then I felt rather sad. An anti-climax – that the great days of the Valley protest should eventually come to this brief session in an anonymous court in Croydon of all places.
Looking back over the period, it seems to me to be a dangerous thing for any Charlton fan to actually want to work for the club. It's a highly precarious career with changes of ownership always lurking over the horizon – and especially precarious with our rocket ride up and then down the divisions.
I am sure Rick will still be a great influence on the club in future but probably far better using his talents on the other side of the fence. I only spoke briefly to him when he talked about the long months of the wait for the tribunal but I can't see him ever wanting to be a paid employee of the club again after what has happened.
If the employers have offered to settle in full than the Tribunial wouldn't look favourably on the employee continuing.
But an employer dragging it out to the last minute means more costs and worry for the employee. Not sure you can automatically recover legal costs either at ETs although my employment law is rusty.
Pleased for Rick but frustrated not to hear the evidence from both sides.
Very interesting. Surprised he represented himself, I assumed being a labour councillor he would be in a union and have representation from them. I know they are no longer officially linked like that but I just assumed if you were one you were the other - especially at local level. Although I suppose he might be and chose to represent himself anyway. Pointless pondering from me!
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Rick Everitt has reached an out of court settlement with #cafc ahead of today's scheduled employment tribunal hearing in Croydon
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It's just a shame that we don't have Ricks evidence now about what is going on which he said would put all doubts to rest that all was not well. So the rumours, scare mongering, heads covered in sand will continue.
Anyone know the consequences of breaking a confidentiality clause? Do you just have to give the money back or have you in shown contempt for the court proceedings and be guilty of a crime?
I would imagine even more so now as it is a fee they have agreed rather than a fee they have been instructed to pay.
"Just back from Rick's Employment Tribunal hearing at Croydon. He withdrew his claim against the club under confidential terms of settlement. Two reporters – from the News Shopper and The Wharf were there – but Rick could not say anything to them under the terms of the settlement.
One other Charlton fan was present besides me. I went after a call yesterday from a well-connected person in the club who suggested I might get some real behind-the-scenes insight into how the club works under the present ownership. In the event, there was not much to report. Charlton were defended by two lawyers while Rick represented himself.
As a junior reporter in Sheffield nearly half a century ago I used to cover employment tribunals and the system has certainly changed since my day. The case officially started at 10 and I was given the choice of sitting in the room of the plaintiffs or the respondents' room. I told the usher I was a neutral observer but the tribunal doesn't seem to recognise that position. So I opted for the respondents' room just in case any executives or directors of the club were present. I soon recognised the Charlton lawyers, sat down near them and asked if they were there for the Charlton case – they confirmed that and then promptly moved to another desk to be out of earshot. They didn't speak one word to me after that.
In my day, you all packed together in one waiting room and could often almost physically feel the tension between the two sides.
In the respondents' room, the hours passed slowly but I got to know the other cases of the day, e.g. one against the Chief Constable of Sussex and another against British Airways. Then I twigged that one of the Charlton lawyers was occasionally leaving the room to talk to Rick.
At 1.30 we were all called before the judge and the session lasted just a minute or so after the three-and-a-half hours of waiting.
And then I felt rather sad. An anti-climax – that the great days of the Valley protest should eventually come to this brief session in an anonymous court in Croydon of all places.
Looking back over the period, it seems to me to be a dangerous thing for any Charlton fan to actually want to work for the club. It's a highly precarious career with changes of ownership always lurking over the horizon – and especially precarious with our rocket ride up and then down the divisions.
I am sure Rick will still be a great influence on the club in future but probably far better using his talents on the other side of the fence. I only spoke briefly to him when he talked about the long months of the wait for the tribunal but I can't see him ever wanting to be a paid employee of the club again after what has happened.
Richard Redden"
But an employer dragging it out to the last minute means more costs and worry for the employee. Not sure you can automatically recover legal costs either at ETs although my employment law is rusty.
Pleased for Rick but frustrated not to hear the evidence from both sides.
Surprised he represented himself, I assumed being a labour councillor he would be in a union and have representation from them. I know they are no longer officially linked like that but I just assumed if you were one you were the other - especially at local level.
Although I suppose he might be and chose to represent himself anyway.
Pointless pondering from me!