I'd be all for that, but the Mysterons have road roughshod all over "for the people by the people" in a Charlton context. They make their bed, they can lie in it.
You really think that TJ to MS have anything, anything whatsoever, to do with this?
Yes, in the sense that they've added to the pressure under which Mick Everitt and others have to work under by undermining and disposing of key staff.
I'd be all for that, but the Mysterons have road roughshod all over "for the people by the people" in a Charlton context. They make their bed, they can lie in it.
You really think that TJ to MS have anything, anything whatsoever, to do with this?
Yes, in the sense that they've added to the pressure under which Mick Everitt and others have to work under by undermining and disposing of key staff.
You mean Rick Everitt used to roll out the adverts, on top of everything else?
I guess it was putting out and taking away the practice goals and safety netting.
It took 3 per end and you had to lift them off of and onto the wheel things.
However, Hamer was warming up in the goal (and it already is sparce of grass)
On that note - the bit of pitch in NW corner where they do their running bits is already knackered too - might be an idea to do that in an area that gets more sun.
Rise up brothers. Rise up against your oppressors. Band together, fight the good fight. Lets raise our banner high and proud, as we march along behind our brass band into oblivion.
If HMRC haven't got better things to do than chase cafc over six people choosing to give two hours of their time for free once a fortnight then we may as well give up now.
Rise up brothers. Rise up against your oppressors. Band together, fight the good fight. Lets raise our banner high and proud, as we march along behind our brass band into oblivion.
If HMRC haven't got better things to do than chase cafc over six people choosing to give two hours of their time for free once a fortnight then we may as well give up now.
Love this post spot on Off-it
You may jest Offy however we had a little scheme going at my company whereby if we received a letter/email from a client praising a staff member for good work, being helpful etc we would reward that staff member with a little gift.
As most of my staff are young engineers or admin workers they all said a voucher from somewhere like HMV would be good so they could purchase DVD's, music, head phones etc.
We had an Inland Revenue inspection last year and the only thing they could find to nab us on was 7 x £25.00 vouchers that we had purchased from HMV.
They questioned me for 30 minutes asking for the names of the staff so they could go after them for unpaid tax on a gift. I refused to give up the names and told them to tax the company instead.
There are hundreds of comp tickets givent to schools each week - do you think the HMRC goes round there to tax the teachers who escort them. Giving freebies away is not the same as giving cash incentives to staff.
Rise up brothers. Rise up against your oppressors. Band together, fight the good fight. Lets raise our banner high and proud, as we march along behind our brass band into oblivion.
If HMRC haven't got better things to do than chase cafc over six people choosing to give two hours of their time for free once a fortnight then we may as well give up now.
Love this post spot on Off-it
You may jest Offy however we had a little scheme going at my company whereby if we received a letter/email from a client praising a staff member for good work, being helpful etc we would reward that staff member with a little gift.
As most of my staff are young engineers or admin workers they all said a voucher from somewhere like HMV would be good so they could purchase DVD's, music, head phones etc.
We had an Inland Revenue inspection last year and the only thing they could find to nab us on was 7 x £25.00 vouchers that we had purchased from HMV.
They questioned me for 30 minutes asking for the names of the staff so they could go after them for unpaid tax on a gift. I refused to give up the names and told them to tax the company instead.
Ha ha , that doesn't surprise me.
My favourite story was the one about the tax inspector who spent two days at a place and found absolutely nothing. Just as he was about to leave the fella was talking to him about his fantasy football team and how he was doing well in the firms competition, so the tax man did them for betting duty!
While I'm not quite "Man the barricades, the club are exploiting the fans" on this, I am a bit wary of it, partly because it might cause people issues with HMRC or DWP later. If you're unemployed and the DWP decide that the match ticket is payment in kind rather than volunteering expenses, you may be at risk of them clawing back the money from your JSA, and if you forgot to declare it you could be in all sorts of bother.
Asking fans to volunteer for a one-off event such as the seat cleaning and giving them a ticket as a thank you is one thing, but if it's a regular fixed task for a set number of people, then the club should be employing people on temp contracts to do the work. It's not just a question of paying minimum wage, what about employer's NI contributions and the protections that you get as an employee that you don't necessarily get as a volunteer?
There are hundreds of comp tickets givent to schools each week - do you think the HMRC goes round there to tax the teachers who escort them. Giving freebies away is not the same as giving cash incentives to staff.
Giving a bod a ticket in exchange for time spent and work done IS paid employment and subject to all the bs admin that goes with it. Giving away tickets to schools is just giving away stuff. HMRC interested in the former but not the latter
The club have been doing this for years for various matchday positions, I've never heard of anyone being strung up by the HMRC for it. It all feels a bit too much like people being against everything the new regime are doing. Some will be finding a reason to slag off the next football for a fiver game soon.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Won't we? That accident was years ago and we've had numerous football for a five games since and have another coming up in a couple of months.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Won't we? That accident was years ago and we've had numerous football for a five games since and have another coming up in a couple of months.
He went off to support Ipswich for a while after that. He is now an extractor fan.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Won't we? That accident was years ago and we've had numerous football for a five games since and have another coming up in a couple of months.
Years ago? It happen last year. Everyone knows a claim will only effect your policy the following year on renewal.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Sorry, got to ask, how the hell do you run yourself over driving a tractor ?
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Sorry, got to ask, how the hell do you run yourself over driving a tractor ?
Fairly quickly I assume otherwise you'd move out of the way.
Thing is its the type of people the club are getting as volunteers. There was a volunteer at the training ground who managed to run himself over with a tractor. He ended up getting carted off in the air ambulance. He was back volunteering though, Warrior. I bet the health and safety executive got involved with that. Probably put the clubs insurance up hence we won't get football for a fiver now.
Sorry, got to ask, how the hell do you run yourself over driving a tractor ?
Fairly quickly I assume otherwise you'd move out of the way.
I heard that its an old tractor that doesn't start, It was left in gear and he was laying underneath it trying to get it going (must have had to much badger juice). He then put two wires together and it started up and ran him over. Lucky it didn't have a rotavator on the rear he would of been mince meat otherwise. I heard the wurzels have got a brand new combine harvester. They might give him the key?
Hot wiring tractors is normally a trait of Norwich fans. Not Charlton...lol
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Season tickets to match the minimum wage?
Well I never.
It took 3 per end and you had to lift them off of and onto the wheel things.
However, Hamer was warming up in the goal (and it already is sparce of grass)
On that note - the bit of pitch in NW corner where they do their running bits is already knackered too - might be an idea to do that in an area that gets more sun.
As most of my staff are young engineers or admin workers they all said a voucher from somewhere like HMV would be good so they could purchase DVD's, music, head phones etc.
We had an Inland Revenue inspection last year and the only thing they could find to nab us on was 7 x £25.00 vouchers that we had purchased from HMV.
They questioned me for 30 minutes asking for the names of the staff so they could go after them for unpaid tax on a gift. I refused to give up the names and told them to tax the company instead.
My favourite story was the one about the tax inspector who spent two days at a place and found absolutely nothing. Just as he was about to leave the fella was talking to him about his fantasy football team and how he was doing well in the firms competition, so the tax man did them for betting duty!
Asking fans to volunteer for a one-off event such as the seat cleaning and giving them a ticket as a thank you is one thing, but if it's a regular fixed task for a set number of people, then the club should be employing people on temp contracts to do the work. It's not just a question of paying minimum wage, what about employer's NI contributions and the protections that you get as an employee that you don't necessarily get as a volunteer?
Years ago? It happen last year. Everyone knows a claim will only effect your policy the following year on renewal.
Hot wiring tractors is normally a trait of Norwich fans. Not Charlton...lol