Just got back from the ebbsfleet friendly and have to say our so called fringe players were a disgrace today. That includes wilson, cort, green and as for the 2 trialists what a waste of time both church and mcgurk were. The second half introduction of muldoon, piggott and a left back of which im afraid i dont know his name at least showed some passion to try and get us back in the game. The only 2 pro,s that came out with any credit were hollands and wood. I would rather see the kids running there heart out than someone there just to pick up a wage every week.
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Clem_Snide said:
Pigott is not ready for the Championship. I believe Conference South is the highest competitive level he has played at.
If we get someone in he needs to go out on loan till Xmas to league one or two.
no offence CS -this is not aimed directly at you- but Im getting quite weary of reading comments similar to yours like this every time the U 21's squad get a bit of time on the pitch and again deliver better quality football than the current supposed balance of the 1st team.
For the record -and again this isn't aimed at Clem- today's game against Ebbsfleet was always scheduled as a CAFC X1 game, then midweek it was re-assigned for the 1st team squad to ensure any players in the 1st team, who didn't get a full run out in yesterday's unfortunate lost game were able to get more pre-season minutes under their belt before the start of the season. To say the 1st half was underwhelming is an understatement and Ebbsfleet thoroughly deserved to be 2-0 up at half time, and the start of the 2nd half was not much better, it was only when the mass substitutions were made did the game change pace, gear and quality of football in Charlton's favour and within minutes we were putting Ebbslfeet under pressure with at least 2 or 3 well worked attacks resulting in an early shot just off target, a goal forma well worked corner taken by Muldoon nad finished well by Woods and at least 2 or 3 further chances - more than we saw in the entire preceding 65 minutes plus we then pretty well managed Ebbsfleet for the rest of the game....
At some stage we have to accept the quality of players in our U21's squad is possibly better than what we currently have in our 1st team and give them a chance...other players in bigger clubs than Charlton have started their 1st team careers at much younger ages than 18/19/20 and they weren't patronisingly called 'The Kids, youngster etc"
In my opinion Church made not-a-lot of his chances today and Piggott is way in front of him and also Mc Gurke looked average as did Jack Paxman, nothing for Callum Harriott nor Bradley Jordan or Muldoon to worry about as they are far more accomplished players.
As for Munns - ex Spurs academy player- and yes, challenged in stature I give you that, but very composed on the ball in midfield and was not bossed off the ball... maybe with a player of his ability in middle of the park we would see less hoof it up benny football and more along the floor as we witnessed in the last 20 minutes Reality check, how tall is Lionel Messi and he ain't to shabby!
The back 4 of Osborne Feely Lennon and Fox were assured, there was good link up play with the midfield of Poyet, Muldoon, Munns made himself busy all over the midfield and Fox and Osborne provided decent wing outlets further up the pitch and Piggot was in or around the box to collect and either distribute or have a shot at goal.
....Can we please wake up and smell the coffee
but he is better than church, mcgurk etc so if that's where we are looking stop and just play the lad
I feel for trialists. Must be hard for them to come into an unknown squad, knowing you only have a week and one game to impress. Anyone that's played football knows that sometimes a game just doesn't go your way and you don't see much of the ball etc, and in church and Mcgurks case that could be the difference between getting a years work or not.
I trust CP, who sees them in training every day, in that he wouldn't sign anyone that wasn't good enough or didnt wanna be there. I actually think he has confidence in the younger players to step up, but each one will take time and he can't rush them all in at once.
Wagstaff and Basey did a job in League One for us, others like Mambo may also have done given a run of games (he did well at that level for Shrewsbury last season).
Many of them have had a year at U21 level and some have also gone out on loan. That group are coming up to 20 - easy to forget but at the same age Evina was our cover for Wiggins.
They won't all be ready yet and they won't all make it, but if we were a little less cautious we could probably develop a few into decent Championship players. There are other Championship clubs seem able to.
Lets be clear - throwing in youngsters who aren't ready will be detrimental to them and to us. I'm not saying we can't start to blood some of them, but they shouldn't form a core part of our squad.
If they're good enough, they're old enough.
With knobs on.
Some may be worth the risk though- eg Will Hughes at Derby who seems to know where to be on the pitch, as well as be able to technically do the business with the ball.
As said above, you've just got to trust Powell.
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Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
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People need someone to look up to
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A lonely place to be
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If I fail, if I succeed
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No matter what they take from me
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Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be
[Chorus]
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Leads you to a lonely place
Find your strength in love
jonjo, solly, konch, etc were at 16 but we are talking a 19 yr who is 5 months off 20 and a 22 yr old
A lot of you really do have to lose this blinkered 'youngsters' viewpoint, like life the beautiful game is evolving very quickly and 1st team players are getting younger and the game quicker and we are not talking 16 17 year olds here, (although, we've got plenty of quality talent coming through at that age as well) these lads, young men are mostly near enough turning 20 or going on 21, plenty old enough for the 1st team.