thing is nolly reacting to an action that although directed at you personally , is not your fight can cause the original person more problems,
I aint saying I wouldn't have done the same if it was a chap and my daughter but for the sake of the grandkids this fight needs to be son and estranged wife not nan and granddad
seems to me masicat has done the right thing thus far seeking advice of others in that predicament and getting some legal advice from those whom specialise in that field but to get involved rather than turn cheek and show that you are although pissed off the person has hurt your child emotionally you are a place of sanctuary for the grand kids
I don't doubt it mate I have heard horror stories from pals but I think if it was me I would tell my mum to stay out of it and atleast know the kids will see me and them
I agree with Curb It. In my experience, the vast majority of times where there is a party definitely 'at fault' when a relationship breaks down, its the man. This tends to be even more pronounced when the parties concerned are a bit older. There's definitely something to that 'mid life crisis' thing.
It doesn't matter whose fault it is or who shagged someone else The family courts are not courts of morality there're not there to judge that. They are there to make sure the kids get looked after the best they can. Men are fucked from the off in a family court it's the biggest load of crap in the legal system. Unreasonable Behaviour is another chestnut, one of the parties can claim Unreasonable Behaviour because they thought it was reasonable that the other party wouldn't do the washing up on a Thursday etc etc! It has to be accepted as a reason for divorce. I'm sorry Curb It whether you like it or not that's the reality woman start off 70/30 ahead of men in a family court so if those that have been though it get pissed of, unlucky. That doesn't make us women haters though!
Quite, and as the original query was about father's rights and good representation for a father, would seem out of context to talk about how women should get more consideration.
Listen...this maybe a bit male bias here, but believe me when my ex wife cheated on me for the umpteenth time her friends rallied round her to tell what she was entitled too.
Rather than tell her she shouldnt be doing it, they gave her the benefit of their experience into what she should get. Its just the man club sticking together here.
In my lifetime and in my experience its 50-50, go onto any womans forum page and see anyone saying the same. You have more chance of seeing a unicorn or a decent millwall fan.
the way it should be nolly tbh , I aint criticising masicats wife as we all act different and when provoked you don't know what you will do
just that if anyone is going through it or has a son/daughter going through it and there are kids involved try to stay out of it
it is not your fight
Also, if daughter-in-law is the type to fight dirty then there's a good chance she'll use the assault against the son, claiming it's evidence he's from a violent family, and so contact should be restricted for her safety and the kids'. If she's winding you up that much then the best thing you can do to support your son is get out of her immediate vicinity and lose your temper elsewhere.
My brother in law had a kid through a previous relationship and he had joint rights , everything was fine until my sister got pregnant and had children and the pyscho ex went proper screwy Lying to their son and doing everything to stop him from seeing his father Lying in court everything , the judge even said he doesn't know why he is giving the mother custody of the child 8 years on and about 6 years without seeing his son, after the wicked selfish witch has had her way ,it has been proved she lied about things in court in the mean time my brother in law has spent a squillion hours of his life and small fortune on solicitors etc and the sons turned into a 15 year old helmet because of his screwy bitch of a mother
Some blokes are cunts but women can take it to another level and the system is so wrong
I suppose as mainly men on here we are only getting stories from a male perspective.
Anyway masicat i hope the grand kids weren't there to witness it.
You twat.
Slightly out of order there. Firstly, Curb It is a woman. Pretty sure you're not usually inclined to go around talking to women like that on a daily basis. Secondly, all she's done there is to repeat the advice that other people have given above about approaching this situation with a calm head. Appreciate that your feelings are clearly running high, but think you might want to consider stepping back and calming down a bit before you post that sort of thing. Seriously - the more calm you are about this, the better it will be for all concerned in the long run.
When Leroy is the voice of calm and reason you have to take note Masicat, agree with Leroys sentiments fully
Ha. I did feel a bit odd posting that. Like I thought I should chuck a couple of expletives in there or something, just to make it seem genuine and that someone hadn't hacked me account
I had no idea Curb It was a woman. However, that does make sense. For your information, my wife was released without charge or caution and treated very well indeed by the police. This means that they didn't believe my daughter in laws account, which means they have said she is a liar. The officer also told my wife she felt the daughter in law was also unstable. The daughter in law has since tried to apologise for what has happened which I am trying to get in writing. If we can, then there is a possibility of wasting police time.
The daughter in law has since starting treating my son better and now, after 7 months, wants to talk. We as a family are trying hard to protect the children. I had an hour meeting with her which I taped. In this meeting I tried to get her to talk about the kids but all she could do was talk about what she wanted and her needs.
I don't often tell someone their a twat, but after the 6 months we have had to have someone mention the kids to me is hitting a nerve. This person has hit a nerve with me more than once. So I challenge the red card, and on this occasion cannot withdraw my comment.
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I aint saying I wouldn't have done the same if it was a chap and my daughter but for the sake of the grandkids this fight needs to be son and estranged wife
not nan and granddad
seems to me masicat has done the right thing thus far seeking advice of others in that predicament and getting some legal advice from those whom specialise in that field but to get involved rather than turn cheek and show that you are although pissed off the person has hurt your child emotionally you are a place of sanctuary for the grand kids
Anyway masicat i hope the grand kids weren't there to witness it.
just that if anyone is going through it or has a son/daughter going through it and there are kids involved try to stay out of it
it is not your fight
The family courts are not courts of morality there're not there to judge that.
They are there to make sure the kids get looked after the best they can.
Men are fucked from the off in a family court it's the biggest load of crap in the legal system.
Unreasonable Behaviour is another chestnut, one of the parties can claim Unreasonable Behaviour because they thought it was reasonable that the other party wouldn't do the washing up on a Thursday etc etc! It has to be accepted as a reason for divorce.
I'm sorry Curb It whether you like it or not that's the reality woman start off 70/30 ahead of men in a family court so if those that have been though it get pissed of, unlucky.
That doesn't make us women haters though!
Rather than tell her she shouldnt be doing it, they gave her the benefit of their experience into what she should get. Its just the man club sticking together here.
In my lifetime and in my experience its 50-50, go onto any womans forum page and see anyone saying the same. You have more chance of seeing a unicorn or a decent millwall fan.
Lying to their son and doing everything to stop him from seeing his father
Lying in court everything , the judge even said he doesn't know why he is giving the mother custody of the child
8 years on and about 6 years without seeing his son, after the wicked selfish witch has had her way ,it has been proved she lied about things in court
in the mean time my brother in law has spent a squillion hours of his life and small fortune on solicitors etc and the sons turned into a 15 year old helmet because of his screwy bitch of a mother
Some blokes are cunts but women can take it to another level and the system is so wrong
Thanks lads. X
The daughter in law has since starting treating my son better and now, after 7 months, wants to talk. We as a family are trying hard to protect the children. I had an hour meeting with her which I taped. In this meeting I tried to get her to talk about the kids but all she could do was talk about what she wanted and her needs.
I don't often tell someone their a twat, but after the 6 months we have had to have someone mention the kids to me is hitting a nerve. This person has hit a nerve with me more than once. So I challenge the red card, and on this occasion cannot withdraw my comment.
Closing this one now, too much private information being played out on a public forum.