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  • Good pub crawl yesterday in Lewes, went in 6 pubs all were pretty good but special mention to the Royal Oak which has been superbly done up.

    always been meaning to check out the Harvey's brewery in Lewes.
  • Good pub crawl yesterday in Lewes, went in 6 pubs all were pretty good but special mention to the Royal Oak which has been superbly done up.

    always been meaning to check out the Harvey's brewery in Lewes.
    The brewery shop is pretty impressive, my mate brought around 50 bottles from there yesterday.
  • We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.
  • Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
  • Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    Used it for going to games at Brighton's new ground, like you say brilliant choice of pubs in a really nice area
  • Mean Time are pulling out of the Greenwich Union as not enough of their "beer" sold there apparently.
  • Quick shout up for 'The Waterworks' in Rye, micro-pub, local ales and £5 for a pint and a scotch egg.
  • Micro pub apparently coming to the dip on Plumstead Common Road next to the funeral parlour. Anyone know anything? @Riviera
  • Curb_It said:

    Micro pub apparently coming to the dip on Plumstead Common Road next to the funeral parlour. Anyone know anything? @Riviera

    Where's the funeral parlour B?
  • Corner of Jago close. So opposite corner of the Star.
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  • Curb_It said:

    Corner of Jago close. So opposite corner of the Star.

    They could call it The Gordon Jago.
  • It must be where the Tool Hire shop was.
  • Curb_It said:

    Micro pub apparently coming to the dip on Plumstead Common Road next to the funeral parlour. Anyone know anything? @Riviera

    No I haven't heard anything about Plumstead. Popping up everywhere though.
  • It must be where the Tool Hire shop was.

    Terry was telling us. He’s been peering in. Do you know if that goes far back otherwise will be very small.



  • A new micropub in Hither Green - Mathbrew - has just been given planning permission; it'll liven up the dying parade of shops on Springbank Road. There's another little bar, Drink At Bob's, planned for Hither Green Lane.

    I wish both bars well that area is sadly lacking
  • Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    So many to choose from although my favourites are the Jenny Lind and the dolphin
  • lolwray said:

    Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    So many to choose from although my favourites are the Jenny Lind and the dolphin
    Had a win on the meat raffle in the Dolphin yesterday....steak burgers. I'd add the FILO to those two pubs you mentioned there.
  • Camra have put the 1988 South East London Pub Guide online - it's a fascinating read. Amazing how many pubs there were 30 years ago.



    I'd forgotten about Webster's Yorkshire Bitter - understandably.
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  • edited November 2018
    Vincenzo said:

    Camra have put the 1988 South East London Pub Guide online - it's a fascinating read. Amazing how many pubs there were 30 years ago.



    I'd forgotten about Webster's Yorkshire Bitter - understandably.
    Fascinating.
    Conclusions, the choice of real ale has increased immeasurably but the quality and quantity of pubs has declined even more. So many wonderful pubs on there that are now gone or a shadow of their former selves.
    Some great lost beers too, Ind Coope Burton Ale, Charrington Bass and IPA, Weatherheads and the real Courage Best and Directors.
    Loads of pubs showing "No Real Ale", pretty rare these days and that is down to CAMRA.
    I was probably at my peak of drinking in lots of different pubs in 1988, 23 years old and young free and single. Met my wife in the November and although my pub visits didn't stop they just became more concentrated on just a few local ones.
  • Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    Love the Dolphin and the Cinque Port Arms!

  • addick05 said:

    Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    Love the Dolphin and the Cinque Port Arms!

    Was in both yesterday...top pubs though the Dolphin is better for beer.
  • lolwray said:

    Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    So many to choose from although my favourites are the Jenny Lind and the dolphin
    Had a win on the meat raffle in the Dolphin yesterday....steak burgers. I'd add the FILO to those two pubs you mentioned there.
    Nice food too in the filo
  • I made the mistake of trying the London Trader when I was in Hastings last. I won't be dong that again.
  • I made the mistake of trying the London Trader when I was in Hastings last. I won't be dong that again.

    Don't blame you...the Governor also owns the Duke of Wellington (Ok for football)...I hardly go in either.
  • lolwray said:

    lolwray said:

    Riviera said:

    We did a Beano from my pub a couple of weeks ago to Lewes, 38 of us! Absolutely fantastic. I really cannot imagine there can be another town in England to have so many pubs that were all good pubs. It's not a big place, saw about 13 or 14 and went in 10 or 11 and they were all great and the ale everywhere was good quality.

    We really like Lewes, it's an easy day out from Hastings, next time you do a beano you should come down to Hastings old Town.
    So many to choose from although my favourites are the Jenny Lind and the dolphin
    Had a win on the meat raffle in the Dolphin yesterday....steak burgers. I'd add the FILO to those two pubs you mentioned there.
    Nice food too in the filo
    Yes not to bad at all, they do Tapas in there on a Monday which is pretty good.
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    I made the mistake of trying the London Trader when I was in Hastings last. I won't be dong that again.

    Went in the London Trader mid-90s on a jolly boys outing out of Belvedere. Massive off in pub with locals, attempt at an outside bench through the windows, and ended up being escorted out of town by riot police. Thank the lord for pre-CCTV. Crazy day, and that wasn’t even the main event!
  • I made the mistake of trying the London Trader when I was in Hastings last. I won't be dong that again.

    Went in the London Trader mid-90s on a jolly boys outing out of Belvedere. Massive off in pub with locals, attempt at an outside bench through the windows, and ended up being escorted out of town by riot police. Thank the lord for pre-CCTV. Crazy day, and that wasn’t even the main event!
    I-Spy Trains, again, @AFKABartram ?
  • It was widely reported yesterday that Enterprise Inns (EI Group) are considering selling their whole property portfolio. This could be really bad news for pubs in SE London as EI and it's subsidiary companies own loads of them; Pelton, Red Lion & Bull (both Shooters Hill) and the Park Tavern in Eltham to name just a few. I wouldn't imagine many tenants would be able to or even want to buy their freeholds. They may not even be given the option. Of course other Pub Co's like Youngs or M&B may be interested but more worryingly so will loads of property developers.
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