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Jose Mourinho - Like Or Loathe? (Pg 13, sacked Man U)
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This.Addickted2TheReds said:Find myself being quite pleased for him to be honest - can't help but feel he's been hung out to dry a little bit. Found myself rooting for them at the end there.
Could be a bit of a turning point. Pogba was fantastic in the second half and Sanchez scoring the winner.
If those two pull their finger out of their arses and continue like that then things will turn around because they're fantastic talents.0 -
Jose Mourinho has been charged over comments he made in Portuguese to a television camera after Manchester United's game against Newcastle United on 6 October.
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Officially now United's worst start to a season for 28 years.
Also scored just 8 goals in 6 home games. Surely he has to go?0 -
Over a third of the season gone and Man Utd have a negative goal difference. Unbelievable.0
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All the shit Moyes got, if this was him every United fan would want him out.
Someone needs to redo that picture of Moyes at his desk saying I have no idea what I am doing with Joses face0 -
Still 8 months on Moyes contract6
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It's also been confirmed that United players are the best paid, at an average of £6.5m per annum, in the PL and puts them in the top 10 of sports teams in the world.
That's a lot of money for a Club that sits in 7th place and 14 points, after just 13 games, behind the leaders.
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Like or Loathe not really an issue. His day has gone.4
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I would guess those figures are slightly lop-sided though given that Pogba, Lukaku and Sanchez probably earn 1m a week between them.Addick Addict said:It's also been confirmed that United players are the best paid, at an average of £6.5m per annum, in the PL and puts them in the top 10 of sports teams in the world.
That's a lot of money for a Club that sits in 7th place and 14 points, after just 13 games, behind the leaders.0 -
Got lucky tonight could easily have drawn 0-0 at home to Young Boys0
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Glory glory Man United0
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Who else is there that would do well and want the job at the moment even if they got rid.0
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Also Fellaini looks odd with normal hair.0
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Mourinho is an odious bully that can't take a punch back.4
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Absolute tube. Used to like him but now he’s like a guest at a party that just won’t leave. He should retire2
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He is not well. Probably needs a nice long break. Aside from the fact he's clearly cracked, there's only so much in the way of positives you can take from a match where you barely beat a Swiss team off the back of a blatant handball and an impossible save from your keeper. I still can't understand why he insists on making his Man Utd team so dull and insipid. It's like weird performance art where the central point is life is meaningless3
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He made a good point after the game though. In 16 years of management he's played in the champions league 14 times, and qualified out of the group every time. And the 2 years he played in the Europa league.......he won it.0
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And in those 16 years he has managedChris_from_Sidcup said:He made a good point after the game though. In 16 years of management he's played in the champions league 14 times, and qualified out of the group every time. And the 2 years he played in the Europa league.......he won it.
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Man Utd
Inter Milan
You would expect those teams to make it through group stage.
Yes also Porto and he done well there but that was start of his career4 - Sponsored links:
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premier league managers of the bigger clubs i can find quite annoying
klopp loved him at dortmund but now hes at liverpool he can do one.
mourinho for comedy value he is great and man utd aint doing so well is quite funny
pep - will walk the league this year but wont get that invaluable champions league trophy
poch spent f all over the summer and spurs may get top 4 which is vital in that new stadium
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Bit of twisted logic there. How did he get those jobs with top teams? Because he won the Champions League - didn't just progress through the group stages, won it- with a team who wouldn't have been surprised to go out in the last 16 and earned the right to be given those jobs. After that he proceeded to win leagues and cups which got him his next job and his next. At which point he has always progressed, which isn't something even Ferguson can say. You can't take away from that achievement by ignoring the basis for him being in that position in the first place.paulie8290 said:
And in those 16 years he has managedChris_from_Sidcup said:He made a good point after the game though. In 16 years of management he's played in the champions league 14 times, and qualified out of the group every time. And the 2 years he played in the Europa league.......he won it.
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Man Utd
Inter Milan
You would expect those teams to make it through group stage.
Yes also Porto and he done well there but that was start of his career
Mourinho is well-suited to Champions League football because he knows how to grind out shitty results and draws don't hurt you like they do in a 38 game league. Jose's quite comfortable beating little teams and stifling competitors in the group, then trying to nick a tie by one or on away goals as it progresses, before he generally gets found out by better teams when his players don't know how to play with freedom once they're behind0 -
Yes he got the jobs because he won with Porto but my point is Mourinho using getting through the group stage as a base of his sucess is wrong, the teams he has managed anything less than getting to last 16 would be deemed a failure.
How many times did Mourinho take the piss out of Wenger for being happy they got into the top 4, which for Arsenal anything less would be deemed a failure, well aa far as i am concerned Mourinho making his statement is the same as what he has laughed at Wenger for1 -
Mourinho is pretty much a "cup manager" at this point, his style and temperament can drag teams through a cup format but its unsustainable over a League format.
He would probably be pretty good if he was manager of an International team.0 -
Working his magic again i see haha
20 minutes gone
Saints 2-0 up0 -
I can't see him surviving much longer. Nice payout though!!0
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I can't wait til they sack him and have to pay him tens of millions to leave. I hate ManU.1
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United are so boring to watch with him as Manager0
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Detest Mourinho and always have, but moreso the fawning media lickspittles who hang on every one of his petulant utterances as if they were the word of God, and publicise his trivial opinions as meaningful news.2
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Mourinho has actually summarised present-day Mourinho himself with this response to a question about why he hasn't been able to get the best out of Pogba:
“I don’t think your question goes in the direction of what I want to answer or listen [to],”
Amazing. He's actually becoming Arsene Wenger, in that he thinks he's been in football management long enough now that he doesn't have to ever adapt again. When his team fail it's because the media or the players or the finances are against him, and he doesn't want to engage with the concept that he might not be doing his best work. If he doesn't like it, it's wrong. Him and Wenger are different in that Wenger remained married to his style and insisted that beautiful flowing football would always eventually win out, which is at least a pleasant philosophy if stupid, whereas Jose is determined that his pragmatic style of cutting off chances and being bigger and stronger, while treating players like he did ten years ago is the key, but the stubbornness is nearly identical. The reason Ferguson stayed on top until he retired was because he always adapted to new ways of playing and recognised when a certain type of player was becoming more significant in the game, or when a playing style needed updating. He also knew that he had to adapt to the culture of footballers - a lesson he learned fully after the Beckham debacle - and maintained discipline while making certain concessions where necessary5
