Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
Surely you saying we have primarily a league one squad also means you think we should replace most of them?
Rubbish. I was merely pointing out where they have come from. Every single one of them has earned the right to prove themselves in the Championship. Some will make it, others won't - that's football. But suggesting that we should basically clear out the squad that won the league last year because we're 'only' mid-table in the league above is ridiculous.
Depends what our aim is next season. If the board want to go for promotion then replacing 80% is about right. Realistically we should go for safe mid table in which case probably could do with 4 or 5 first team new players
As for these people "in the know" about the Jiminez/Powell relationship - I wonder how many of those would turn a blind eye if they just so happened to hear that, actually, they got on quite well.
A lot of supporters have a negative image of Jiminez based 100% on what they have heard from others who probably also have an agenda. In return, its what some people want to hear just so they can reinforce their already negative opinion of him.
None of this 'in the know' talk ever seems to be based on any direct contact anyone has had from him or from Powell.
We all love a bit of gossip and drama though on here.
Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
Carry on despairing mate, what a crock your post is. Firstly, no one said that we should have statues of the players. I get what you are hinting at, poor form I can live with, lack of effort and no passion I cannot and will not defend. Secondly, I think the fans have been more than patient with the home form. On saturday they tried to get the lads going with rendition after rendition of 'Chris Powells red army' just like against Cardiff, but the players didnt respond. I assume you were there. Thirdly, anyone who compares their boring job to that of a footballer cannot be taken seriously. After Saturdays display the players should have publicly apologised for their inept display. I believe we should keep Powell and hope we do, but you and anyone like you will not take away my right to cheer my team when they do well, and chastise them when they do not put the effort in.
blaming the fans is just utter bollocks , we got behind the team most of the game sat and they still played shite. As far as replacing powell are people losing it?he has had no money to spend, yes tactically he gets it wrong at times but with the squad we have our position is about right, relax!!!!
Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
Carry on despairing mate, what a crock your post is. Firstly, no one said that we should have statues of the players. I get what you are hinting at, poor form I can live with, lack of effort and no passion I cannot and will not defend. Secondly, I think the fans have been more than patient with the home form. On saturday they tried to get the lads going with rendition after rendition of 'Chris Powells red army' just like against Cardiff, but the players didnt respond. I assume you were there. Thirdly, anyone who compares their boring job to that of a footballer cannot be taken seriously. After Saturdays display the players should have publicly apologised for their inept display. I believe we should keep Powell and hope we do, but you and anyone like you will not take away my right to cheer my team when they do well, and chastise them when they do not put the effort in.
I was there on Saturday, in the North Upper J Block. The atmosphere was shocking - not even 30% of what it was against Cardiff. Absolutely no comparison. By 30 minutes there was a cacaphony (sp?) of groans and moans. Atmosphere wise, Cardiff was amazing. Saturday was awful. 'Rendition after rendition' - it was half-hearted at best.
I really, really, really don't understand these accusations of 'lack of effort and passion'. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. In my opinion, this current group of players clearly want to win, and are putting in the effort week in week out. Sometimes they may suffer from lack of ability, but I don't think anyone can accuse them of lack of effort. Were you at Leicester? If so, you would have seen how much winning means to them, as much as seeing how disheartened they were at the end of the Birmingham match.
Really? One of the bottom 3 will have more than 50 points? Currently Peterboro have 36 with 12 games left, so they would need to win 4 draw 2 of their last 12. Seems unlikely. Plus there are 6 teams between us and them. So not only would Peterboro have to go on a pretty unprecedented run of form (and they are the very epitome of inconsistant), 6 others would all have to have better form than us between now and the end of the season.
Both of those sound unlikely to me. I can see the team finishing in 22nd getting 48 points at most, and I predict we'll get around 54.
I should know better than to come on here after a lose, it all goes very tabloid. When we win we're world beaters, and when we lose we're hopelessly doomed. It seems we get the press we deserve in the country, sensationalist and reactionary.
Really??????!!!!!!!!
Just don't understand this at all you are not basing your projections on reality (ie current form), I think we are more than certainly in a relegation dogfight.
Projecting the end of season table based on recent form (last 6 matches)
Now will Barnsley continue to clip along at 2 points per game, Peterborough at close to 2? I doubt it, but I wouldn't be so relaxed as you Andy - we are in an abysmal trough at the moment & need things to change PDQ...
"I can accept lack of ability, but not lack of passion" is another over-done Football fan cliche that more often or not is used in the wrong scenario.
Greenie, you have no right to say somebody else's post is a "crock" when you reckon a team should publicly apologize for losing a game 1-0 against a team that is actually higher in the table than us.
Have Charlton fans gone fuckin bonkers the last few weeks or something? Seriously I don't even remember it being this headbangingly frustrating with some of you lot when we were 13th in League One!
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
A sensible balanced opinion on this site!
Could not agree more, well said. Keep the faith SCP is one of the GOOD things about our club at the moment and should be appreciated for what he has achieved under the circumstances.
Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
Carry on despairing mate, what a crock your post is. Firstly, no one said that we should have statues of the players. I get what you are hinting at, poor form I can live with, lack of effort and no passion I cannot and will not defend. Secondly, I think the fans have been more than patient with the home form. On saturday they tried to get the lads going with rendition after rendition of 'Chris Powells red army' just like against Cardiff, but the players didnt respond. I assume you were there. Thirdly, anyone who compares their boring job to that of a footballer cannot be taken seriously. After Saturdays display the players should have publicly apologised for their inept display. I believe we should keep Powell and hope we do, but you and anyone like you will not take away my right to cheer my team when they do well, and chastise them when they do not put the effort in.
I was there on Saturday, in the North Upper J Block. The atmosphere was shocking - not even 30% of what it was against Cardiff. Absolutely no comparison. By 30 minutes there was a cacaphony (sp?) of groans and moans. Atmosphere wise, Cardiff was amazing. Saturday was awful. 'Rendition after rendition' - it was half-hearted at best.
I really, really, really don't understand these accusations of 'lack of effort and passion'. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. In my opinion, this current group of players clearly want to win, and are putting in the effort week in week out. Sometimes they may suffer from lack of ability, but I don't think anyone can accuse them of lack of effort. Were you at Leicester? If so, you would have seen how much winning means to them, as much as seeing how disheartened they were at the end of the Birmingham match.
Well said.
The only 'lack of effort/passion' is from the portion of our support that boo and abuse our own team every week if we haven't scored by half time.
There are very few members of the squad who have previous experience at this level. Yet many feel the need to boo a mis-placed pass or ironically cheer when the keeper claims a cross. We have just been promoted. Yet many feel they are well within their rights to boo if we aren't challenging for a play-off position. The atmosphere at home games is poor, or home form is poor. It is no coincidence that we play better away when there are less of our fans present!
Some individuals on here appear to have already fogotten where we have come from. Where we are now is a much better place than what we have seen the last few years. This season is about staying up and looking to build over the next couple of seasons. What WE can do as supporters is get behing the team and offer encouragement, no matter what the score is. It is up to us to make the atmosphere. If supporters feel, at the END of the game that the team have not put enough EFFORT in (effort, not skill), then boo all you like.
I'm glad we didn't have some of the fans we have now in Curbs' early years. Short memories some people have. It takes time to build decent teams, especially with no money.
Why are some fans (of any club) so eager for their clubs to sack managers all the time? Is it the Sky Sports effect? Why can't you just stick by a manager through the good and bad times? It hasn't served us too badly in the past. Does anyone need reminding where sacking managers has got us?
Southampton and Norwich have a lot to answer for. It seems to be their instant promotions to the Premiership that have raised expectations for a large chunk of our support.
Surely after being promoted from any league, the first aim is to simply stay up?! Anything else is a bonus. We are currently 15th, not even in the bottom third of the table.
We have actually shown ourselves to be competetive - it's just the home form (where most fans get to see us play) has been dire. That makes many think we are worse than we are. We have been decent in most games and ought to have a good few more points. There have been all sorts of issues- early doors poor refereeing was a big factor, then silly errors but we do sometimes do too much to beat ourelves it feels. It would be a total disaster to replace Powell. We need to accept that if he gets a modicum of backing, he has the nous to get the bits that are wrong right as he did prior to our promotion last season.
What don't people get, Chris Powell is the guy to take us forward. No one else would have us any higher, he's working with a squad who under anyone else would be in a serious relegation battle. We are a mid table side no higher, no lower. Chris Powell has the potential to become the next Curbishley for this club, he's young for a manager and is still learning. He's managed to buy a completely new squad and get them to gel straight away, and in the end win the league, that we had been struggling in for 2 years previous. Not only did we win the league we won it by far and gained 101 points. Ok this year we've been disappointing at home but remember we have beaten Leicester, Watford and Blackburn away, while also beating Cardiff and Blackpool at home. All of this with basically the same side as last year.If people seriously don't think he is good enough and they believe other people would do a better job all I can say is thank god you're not the chairman and hopefully TJ and MS don't share your views.
Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
Carry on despairing mate, what a crock your post is. Firstly, no one said that we should have statues of the players. I get what you are hinting at, poor form I can live with, lack of effort and no passion I cannot and will not defend. Secondly, I think the fans have been more than patient with the home form. On saturday they tried to get the lads going with rendition after rendition of 'Chris Powells red army' just like against Cardiff, but the players didnt respond. I assume you were there. Thirdly, anyone who compares their boring job to that of a footballer cannot be taken seriously. After Saturdays display the players should have publicly apologised for their inept display. I believe we should keep Powell and hope we do, but you and anyone like you will not take away my right to cheer my team when they do well, and chastise them when they do not put the effort in.
I was there on Saturday, in the North Upper J Block. The atmosphere was shocking - not even 30% of what it was against Cardiff. Absolutely no comparison. By 30 minutes there was a cacaphony (sp?) of groans and moans. Atmosphere wise, Cardiff was amazing. Saturday was awful. 'Rendition after rendition' - it was half-hearted at best.
I really, really, really don't understand these accusations of 'lack of effort and passion'. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. In my opinion, this current group of players clearly want to win, and are putting in the effort week in week out. Sometimes they may suffer from lack of ability, but I don't think anyone can accuse them of lack of effort. Were you at Leicester? If so, you would have seen how much winning means to them, as much as seeing how disheartened they were at the end of the Birmingham match.
Well said.
The only 'lack of effort/passion' is from the portion of our support that boo and abuse our own team every week if we haven't scored by half time.
There are very few members of the squad who have previous experience at this level. Yet many feel the need to boo a mis-placed pass or ironically cheer when the keeper claims a cross. We have just been promoted. Yet many feel they are well within their rights to boo if we aren't challenging for a play-off position. The atmosphere at home games is poor, or home form is poor. It is no coincidence that we play better away when there are less of our fans present!
Some individuals on here appear to have already fogotten where we have come from. Where we are now is a much better place than what we have seen the last few years. This season is about staying up and looking to build over the next couple of seasons. What WE can do as supporters is get behing the team and offer encouragement, no matter what the score is. It is up to us to make the atmosphere. If supporters feel, at the END of the game that the team have not put enough EFFORT in (effort, not skill), then boo all you like.
Disagree we play like the away team at home! thats one of the reasons our home form us crap! absolutely nothing to do with the fans! We were second best to every ball in the first half on Saturday there was no urgency! Powell gave them a kick up the arse at half time and at least they chased! As pro footballers they should have chased from the off not wait for a bollocking from the manager at half time and that mate us unforgivable!
Still above the other newly promoted teams too. Dare I say it - maybe we are where we should expect to be at this stage? Anyway, couple of away games to pick up some points next.
We are doing the best of the three promoted teams - not bad considering how Massive the massives are and that Huddersfield pulled in £5M for Rhodes We have three crucial games coming up in the next 12 days - tomorrow night tells us more than any other game where we might be at the end of March The loan window is open until the end of the month but the squad has not been strengthened recently - it is blindingly obvious to everyone from master tacticians to Golfie (!) that we could do with one or two short term reinforcements
After the next three games we will know where the club is - whatever people's feelings and opinions it has to be 100% vs Millwall as this could really be the decider for the run in.
In my opinion 80% of the squad are OK and 20% will be gone over the summer - the big question is what is the budget for their replacements over and above the £7M we lose every season and who will make the decisions if there is a push for the top six next time.
Is Powell the solution or the problem? If the owners consider Powell the problem then he will go, if they consider the players to be the problem, then provided we escape the drop then I hope Powell stays is furnished with a transfer pot (from somewhere) and replaces 80% of the current squad.
80% of the current squad would have been considered worthy of a statue outside Bartram's not 6 months ago.
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
This!
What was most peoples prediction for this term? Mine was mid table, top 6 with a bit of luck and some strengthening. Well we haven't spent much so mid table it is and guess where we are, oh yes mid table. It pleases no one that we are losing at home but see it for what it is, a bad run, no more no less. BTW Sort the pitch out before buying a any knew players, we cant pass on that.
The same as yours, mid-table with goal difference about zero. What I was looking for was for a style of play to evolve and some players to step up to a higher standard of football.
The "good thing" about the current slump is that CP gets to see who can and can't perform under pressure and he can get a head start on making some decisions on who should and shouldn't be shifted on in the summer.
Hopefuuly also TJ/Slater will remember the lesson of the close season the year before last and allow CP to start the rebuilding process as quickly as possible once the season ends.
Still above the other newly promoted teams too. Dare I say it - maybe we are where we should expect to be at this stage? Anyway, couple of away games to pick up some points next.
think your right would have taken that at the start of the season
I would be happy to finish where we are now and thought the same before the start of the season the lack of a 15-20 goalscorer made me realise anything else would be to much. At the moment I can't see where the next goal let alone point is going to come from.
The problem for me is the lack of effort and commitment on the pitch, the football at home has on the whole been dire. I can take losing when they try but it seems they aren't even doing that.
The team is constantly chopped and changed, not just because of injuries either, last season consistency was one of the key reasons for our success.
If i didn't have a five year ticket I would seriously be considering renewing it next season, not just because of the football but also to me there is more going on behind the scenes than is being told to the fans (who I think there is very little respect for at the moment).
Sorry if I sound negative, but Saturday was the last straw for me, and yes I will be there tomorrow night.
Powell is going nowhere its not that bad is it , were a crap side who are awful to watch but we will stay up and next season he will need to push on . The quicker this season ends the better its pony
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A lot of supporters have a negative image of Jiminez based 100% on what they have heard from others who probably also have an agenda. In return, its what some people want to hear just so they can reinforce their already negative opinion of him.
None of this 'in the know' talk ever seems to be based on any direct contact anyone has had from him or from Powell.
We all love a bit of gossip and drama though on here.
Firstly, no one said that we should have statues of the players. I get what you are hinting at, poor form I can live with, lack of effort and no passion I cannot and will not defend.
Secondly, I think the fans have been more than patient with the home form. On saturday they tried to get the lads going with rendition after rendition of 'Chris Powells red army' just like against Cardiff, but the players didnt respond. I assume you were there.
Thirdly, anyone who compares their boring job to that of a footballer cannot be taken seriously.
After Saturdays display the players should have publicly apologised for their inept display.
I believe we should keep Powell and hope we do, but you and anyone like you will not take away my right to cheer my team when they do well, and chastise them when they do not put the effort in.
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I really, really, really don't understand these accusations of 'lack of effort and passion'. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. In my opinion, this current group of players clearly want to win, and are putting in the effort week in week out. Sometimes they may suffer from lack of ability, but I don't think anyone can accuse them of lack of effort. Were you at Leicester? If so, you would have seen how much winning means to them, as much as seeing how disheartened they were at the end of the Birmingham match.
Just don't understand this at all you are not basing your projections on reality (ie current form), I think we are more than certainly in a relegation dogfight.
Projecting the end of season table based on recent form (last 6 matches)
Peterborough 56
Blackpool 51
Charlton 50
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Huddersfield 50
Bristol C 48
Wolves 41
Now will Barnsley continue to clip along at 2 points per game, Peterborough at close to 2? I doubt it, but I wouldn't be so relaxed as you Andy - we are in an abysmal trough at the moment & need things to change PDQ...
I am 100% pro-CP by the way.
Greenie, you have no right to say somebody else's post is a "crock" when you reckon a team should publicly apologize for losing a game 1-0 against a team that is actually higher in the table than us.
Have Charlton fans gone fuckin bonkers the last few weeks or something? Seriously I don't even remember it being this headbangingly frustrating with some of you lot when we were 13th in League One!
I despair, I really do.
The only thing I'm depressed about at the moment is the massive over-reaction of the fans. We've had a bad run, fair enough. But we are comfortably mid-table with a primarily League 1 squad - I don't think we will go down this year, and so many of the people now panicking would have taken a mid-table finish at the start of the season.
Can't help but think that if our home and away forms were reversed, there would be a totally different feel about the place. Other teams know this and take advantage. They come to disrupt our play, knowing full well that if we're not at least 2 goals up inside 25 mins the fans will get restless. And that DOES make a difference. I've heard it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak) at the Player of the Year Dinner. Also saw it working in our favour at Leicester when their fans did exactly the same.
We (the fans) need to get a grip. I'm not saying that our bad run is the fan's fault, but it IS a contributing factor, whether people care to see it or not. Finally, to the first person that says 'I've paid my money so I've got the right to grumble', I'll give you £20 if I can come to your workplace and shout abuse at you for 2 hours.
OK, rant over...
A sensible balanced opinion on this site!
Could not agree more, well said. Keep the faith SCP is one of the GOOD things about our club at the moment and should be appreciated for what he has achieved under the circumstances.
The only 'lack of effort/passion' is from the portion of our support that boo and abuse our own team every week if we haven't scored by half time.
There are very few members of the squad who have previous experience at this level. Yet many feel the need to boo a mis-placed pass or ironically cheer when the keeper claims a cross. We have just been promoted. Yet many feel they are well within their rights to boo if we aren't challenging for a play-off position. The atmosphere at home games is poor, or home form is poor. It is no coincidence that we play better away when there are less of our fans present!
Some individuals on here appear to have already fogotten where we have come from. Where we are now is a much better place than what we have seen the last few years. This season is about staying up and looking to build over the next couple of seasons. What WE can do as supporters is get behing the team and offer encouragement, no matter what the score is. It is up to us to make the atmosphere. If supporters feel, at the END of the game that the team have not put enough EFFORT in (effort, not skill), then boo all you like.
Why are some fans (of any club) so eager for their clubs to sack managers all the time? Is it the Sky Sports effect? Why can't you just stick by a manager through the good and bad times? It hasn't served us too badly in the past. Does anyone need reminding where sacking managers has got us?
Surely after being promoted from any league, the first aim is to simply stay up?! Anything else is a bonus. We are currently 15th, not even in the bottom third of the table.
We were second best to every ball in the first half on Saturday there was no urgency! Powell gave them a kick up the arse at half time and at least they chased!
As pro footballers they should have chased from the off not wait for a bollocking from the manager at half time and that mate us unforgivable!
We have three crucial games coming up in the next 12 days - tomorrow night tells us more than any other game where we might be at the end of March
The loan window is open until the end of the month but the squad has not been strengthened recently - it is blindingly obvious to everyone from master tacticians to Golfie (!) that we could do with one or two short term reinforcements
After the next three games we will know where the club is - whatever people's feelings and opinions it has to be 100% vs Millwall as this could really be the decider for the run in.
In my opinion 80% of the squad are OK and 20% will be gone over the summer - the big question is what is the budget for their replacements over and above the £7M we lose every season and who will make the decisions if there is a push for the top six next time.
What was most peoples prediction for this term? Mine was mid table, top 6 with a bit of luck and some strengthening. Well we haven't spent much so mid table it is and guess where we are, oh yes mid table. It pleases no one that we are losing at home but see it for what it is, a bad run, no more no less. BTW Sort the pitch out before buying a any knew players, we cant pass on that.
The same as yours, mid-table with goal difference about zero. What I was looking for was for a style of play to evolve and some players to step up to a higher standard of football.
The "good thing" about the current slump is that CP gets to see who can and can't perform under pressure and he can get a head start on making some decisions on who should and shouldn't be shifted on in the summer.
Hopefuuly also TJ/Slater will remember the lesson of the close season the year before last and allow CP to start the rebuilding process as quickly as possible once the season ends.
The problem for me is the lack of effort and commitment on the pitch, the football at home has on the whole been dire. I can take losing when they try but it seems they aren't even doing that.
The team is constantly chopped and changed, not just because of injuries either, last season consistency was one of the key reasons for our success.
If i didn't have a five year ticket I would seriously be considering renewing it next season, not just because of the football but also to me there is more going on behind the scenes than is being told to the fans (who I think there is very little respect for at the moment).
Sorry if I sound negative, but Saturday was the last straw for me, and yes I will be there tomorrow night.