I agree about bringing Dervite on . Made our players sit back and defend and changed Brum's mindset to make them realise they could throw everyone forward. Would have brought Pritchard on myself but like choice says life and football is full of opinions.
There are people on here saying it that other board is saying it clowns were saying it leaving the ground
The fuckwitt tribe are alive and can be found not In fuckwitt avenue or fuckwitt close
But in the valley floyd road se7
I have reported this to the bbc and the crew will be down to film them in super slow mo to watch closely how the fuckwitts fail to wipe their own arses or feed themselves without the need for involuntary spasms of shite talk and their tiny balls tightening
We have a fitness issue. Players have to work too hard making up for the quality difference, hence cream crackered at the end of games, mentally and physically. Can't see a solution till money is spent improving the squad.
Yeah but you know that every set fans has that element no matter who the manager is.
I'm not going to lie I'm not Chris Powell's biggest fan, Loved the bloke as a player and think in time he will be a great manager with us. What gets on my tits is that he can do no wrong in some people's eyes. We should be able to praise and criticise him at the same time. I have no doubt if that was Pardew or Dowie in charge yesterday or the past few games there would be more criticism going their way.
We have a fitness issue. Players have to work too hard making up for the quality difference, hence cream crackered at the end of games, mentally and physically. Can't see a solution till money is spent improving the squad.
We have a fitness issue. Players have to work too hard making up for the quality difference, hence cream crackered at the end of games, mentally and physically. Can't see a solution till money is spent improving the squad.
Spot on
What about making subs earlier instead of running the players out on the pitch into the ground?
I think he is top draw learning his trade And I am glad he is learning it with us
I am all for criticism of tactics for decision making
I have criticised the decisions he made on numerous occasions they just don't end in sack Powell which unfortunately those that do chose to criticise more often than not put in to their posts
Tale your pal for example he has got himself a rep on here for only appearing to slag off not praise
And there is praise due
Yet again that team yesterday was made up of
Hamer Solly Ceddy Mozza Cort Stephens Jacko Waggy Green Wilson Yann
Now all of those players were playing in lge 1 last season and most of them with us
So a man who has won lge1 with record points
Has now steered his title winning team to be competing in the championship 6 points off the battle for the drop and in sight of mid table
Without spending hardly any money in a club that has financial constraints to a huge degree where someone is putting in a million if their own money a month
Yet people feel the need to criticise and question his capability
There was a thread with things that annoy you about modern football
It's the namby Pamby pussies that can't see a good thing without trying to get seething better and out of reach
For the first time since curbs we have a very good young manager who actually understands the whole ethos of Cafc and wants the best for it
Not what's best for him , I will not include parky in that catergory as he was a good man just not a good mgr IMO
I support Chris Powell and the Charlton team100%. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism from a position of full support. I want Chris Powell with Dyer to perfect their management skills (and this includes managing to close out games and making proper substitutions) so that they can be at the club for a long time. Management continuity helped with Curbs and I think that maintaining continuity is vital for the stability of the club. I think that Chris Powell is a very good manager and Charlton through and through.
The substitution at 70 mins with Danny Green was spot on and led to Charlton scoring a goal. It gave energy on the right, as in my opinion, Wilson looked off the pace. If we had anybody better, I would give Wilson a rest for a couple of games. That positive substitution made us look forward, I know that DG is not the best player in the world but it was the right move.
The double substitution at the end was wrong. What is the point of double substitutions in injury time ? It disrupts the team and by the time it beds in, the game is over. The substitutions should be made with gaps. It would have disrupted the play and allowed the team to better accommodate the players going onto the pitch. A nice opportunity for the crowd to show appreciation to the players going off as well. One sub on at 90 and another at 92.
Similar to the lesson of not bringing on subs when you are defending a corner unless you really have to, which CP no longer does. CP needs to stop making double substitutions in injury time. It confuses the players, particularly if it involves a change in formation.
Wagstaff for Dervite was wrong. Wagstaff did a great job at left half. After he went off, no player was in the left midfield position. Dervite confused the midfield formation. KMG should have gone off to receive just acclaim for the goal and BWP to play between Fuller, who was still a threat and the midfield. KMG was knackered and was not contributing anything to the midfield battle. At the end the team looked like all over the place and no one knew who they were marking. The double substitution started that.
The players on the pitch bear some responsibility as well and there was a lack of leadership amongst the players and organisation.
This is post match analysis and after the event. I prefer CP to make substitutions and mess it up then not make substitutions and it go horribly wrong, like at Sheff Weds. I trust in CP that he will get it right, but when it goes wrong, supporters and CP should be able to work out what went wrong, to correct mistakes and perfect performances. This division is too close and I do not want to see Charlton near the foot of the table because of an area that needs improvement, such as not perfecting or working on closing games, who to subsitute / or timings of substitutions is not acknowledged or worked on.
I support CP and the players 100%. Analyse, learn the lessons and ensure that Charlton move up the table.
We have a fitness issue. Players have to work too hard making up for the quality difference, hence cream crackered at the end of games, mentally and physically. Can't see a solution till money is spent improving the squad.
Spot on
What about making subs earlier instead of running the players out on the pitch into the ground?
His subs were more than reasonable on Saturday. We drew because going a goal down meant Birmingham had to attack us and they got a large slice of luck. Annoying but them's the breaks.
I don't, of course, know what the instructions were to the players coming on but Dervite looked like he took up a central berth and with Waggy gone that left Evina exposed and outnumbered on that flank. The balance had gone, Birmingham recognised that and took full advantage.
Yeah but you know that every set fans has that element no matter who the manager is.
I'm not going to lie I'm not Chris Powell's biggest fan, Loved the bloke as a player and think in time he will be a great manager with us. What gets on my tits is that he can do no wrong in some people's eyes. We should be able to praise and criticise him at the same time. I have no doubt if that was Pardew or Dowie in charge yesterday or the past few games there would be more criticism going their way.
Just a shame some people never praise him, in fact they don't even log on when things are going well.
Henry Irving Member said February 9 Could it not be Powell at fault? I know that is hard for some to comprehend but maybe, just maybe, its not Powell and maybe just maybe the eleven players ON THE FECKIN PITCH should have defended a little bit better.
Best comment on this topic, agree 100% defenders def at fault! Not Chris Powell.
Whether its a team with Dervite or a team without there's no excuse for the amount points we've dropped because we can't defend a fucking lead. I'm sick to death of it!
I agree that Powell isn't beyond criticism, as long as fans, we try to be constructive with it.
I criticised him after the sheff Wed game because I felt it was pretty obvious a change needed to be made at the time.
I didnt go yesterday but it comes across that many people are criticising out of hindsight and that doesn't really help matters.
If we go 1-0 up in the 88th min away at hull, what would people like to see Powell do?
Agree. Criticise Powell and the players by all means. None of them are perfect or exempt.
I get as frustrated as anyone by us letting leads slip but I never like seeing us not win full stop.
What is unfair is to criticise ONLY which is what Nicholas and Choice do.
What is unfair is to HIDE when things are going well. Again what Nicolas and Choice do
What is unfair is to use any setback as a stick to beat Powell when ever week teams lose. Every manager loses, every team and every player gets it wrong sometime.
Yesterday we played well, Powell got the line up right, we created lots of chances which were missed (none by Powell). He made the subs that the those on here with far more tactical knowledge than Powell had demanded but the defence gave Brum one chance and got punished.
It hurts but the knee jerk reactions on here are far more painful to read.
I agree that Powell isn't beyond criticism, as long as fans, we try to be constructive with it.
I criticised him after the sheff Wed game because I felt it was pretty obvious a change needed to be made at the time.
I didnt go yesterday but it comes across that many people are criticising out of hindsight and that doesn't really help matters.
If we go 1-0 up in the 88th min away at hull, what would people like to see Powell do?
If we go 1-0 up against hull in the 88th minute I think some are expecting us to either make no subs as that would disrupt the formation or we should put a few attacking players on to try and get a second even though hull will throw majority of there team forward.
It seems chucking a big tall defensive player on like dervite who can deal with the likes of zigic was the wrong sub.
I agree that Powell isn't beyond criticism, as long as fans, we try to be constructive with it.
I criticised him after the sheff Wed game because I felt it was pretty obvious a change needed to be made at the time.
I didnt go yesterday but it comes across that many people are criticising out of hindsight and that doesn't really help matters.
If we go 1-0 up in the 88th min away at hull, what would people like to see Powell do?
Agree. Criticise Powell and the players by all means. None of them are perfect or exempt.
I get as frustrated as anyone by us letting leads slip but I never like seeing us not win full stop.
What is unfair is to criticise ONLY which is what Nicholas and Choice do.
What is unfair is to HIDE when things are going well. Again what Nicolas and Choice do
What is unfair is to use any setback as a stick to beat Powell when ever week teams lose. Every manager loses, every team and every player gets it wrong sometime.
Yesterday we played well, Powell got the line up right, we created lots of chances which were missed (none by Powell). He made the subs that the those on here with far more tactical knowledge than Powell had demanded but the defence gave Brum one chance and got punished.
It hurts but the knee jerk reactions on here are far more painful to read.
What a crock of shit post, I praise/criticise Powell when I think it's necessary, the same I do with the players aswell. So dont put me in any bracket, and do not try and single me out especially when your talking shit about me.
I can't believe the Dervite substitution was a surprise to the players. Go 1 nil up with a few minutes to play and they should know what to expect from the manager as all sorts of scenarios would have been gone through throughout the season. It's what coaching is. They let themselves down it wasn't CP's fault yesterday.
Your an absolute twat and you know it as well. Have I ever started a thread criticising Powell? Have I had any rows with people on here about Powell. Your the arsehole on here who seems to row with most people. Same old shit with you all the time, anyone who has a different opinion to you is wrong. Its always been boring Henry it has honest.
Truth hurts does it Nicolas. Sing when we're losing, you only sing when we're losing
Henry to be fair to Nicholas, he said exactly what I said. I just used more words. This is a forum and Nicholas is expressing an opinion, and I don't understand your reaction. Nicholas observations were not over the top or vindicative.
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. It doesn't always have to have an automatic rider that the poster is grateful for all the other positive attributes of the manager.
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The fuckwitt tribe are alive and can be found not In fuckwitt avenue or fuckwitt close
But in the valley floyd road se7
I have reported this to the bbc and the crew will be down to film them in super slow mo to watch closely how the fuckwitts fail to wipe their own arses or feed themselves without the need for involuntary spasms of shite talk and their tiny balls tightening
I'm not going to lie I'm not Chris Powell's biggest fan, Loved the bloke as a player and think in time he will be a great manager with us. What gets on my tits is that he can do no wrong in some people's eyes. We should be able to praise and criticise him at the same time. I have no doubt if that was Pardew or Dowie in charge yesterday or the past few games there would be more criticism going their way.
I think he is top draw learning his trade
And I am glad he is learning it with us
I am all for criticism of tactics for decision making
I have criticised the decisions he made on numerous occasions they just don't end in sack Powell which unfortunately those that do chose to criticise more often than not put in to their posts
Tale your pal for example he has got himself a rep on here for only appearing to slag off not praise
And there is praise due
Yet again that team yesterday was made up of
Hamer
Solly
Ceddy
Mozza
Cort
Stephens
Jacko
Waggy
Green
Wilson
Yann
Now all of those players were playing in lge 1 last season and most of them with us
So a man who has won lge1 with record points
Has now steered his title winning team to be competing in the championship 6 points off the battle for the drop and in sight of mid table
Without spending hardly any money in a club that has financial constraints to a huge degree where someone is putting in a million if their own money a month
Yet people feel the need to criticise and question his capability
There was a thread with things that annoy you about modern football
It's the namby Pamby pussies that can't see a good thing without trying to get seething better and out of reach
For the first time since curbs we have a very good young manager who actually understands the whole ethos of Cafc and wants the best for it
Not what's best for him , I will not include parky in that catergory as he was a good man just not a good mgr IMO
I criticised him after the sheff Wed game because I felt it was pretty obvious a change needed to be made at the time.
I didnt go yesterday but it comes across that many people are criticising out of hindsight and that doesn't really help matters.
If we go 1-0 up in the 88th min away at hull, what would people like to see Powell do?
The substitution at 70 mins with Danny Green was spot on and led to Charlton scoring a goal. It gave energy on the right, as in my opinion, Wilson looked off the pace. If we had anybody better, I would give Wilson a rest for a couple of games. That positive substitution made us look forward, I know that DG is not the best player in the world but it was the right move.
The double substitution at the end was wrong. What is the point of double substitutions in injury time ? It disrupts the team and by the time it beds in, the game is over. The substitutions should be made with gaps. It would have disrupted the play and allowed the team to better accommodate the players going onto the pitch. A nice opportunity for the crowd to show appreciation to the players going off as well. One sub on at 90 and another at 92.
Similar to the lesson of not bringing on subs when you are defending a corner unless you really have to, which CP no longer does. CP needs to stop making double substitutions in injury time. It confuses the players, particularly if it involves a change in formation.
Wagstaff for Dervite was wrong. Wagstaff did a great job at left half. After he went off, no player was in the left midfield position. Dervite confused the midfield formation. KMG should have gone off to receive just acclaim for the goal and BWP to play between Fuller, who was still a threat and the midfield. KMG was knackered and was not contributing anything to the midfield battle. At the end the team looked like all over the place and no one knew who they were marking. The double substitution started that.
The players on the pitch bear some responsibility as well and there was a lack of leadership amongst the players and organisation.
This is post match analysis and after the event. I prefer CP to make substitutions and mess it up then not make substitutions and it go horribly wrong, like at Sheff Weds. I trust in CP that he will get it right, but when it goes wrong, supporters and CP should be able to work out what went wrong, to correct mistakes and perfect performances. This division is too close and I do not want to see Charlton near the foot of the table because of an area that needs improvement, such as not perfecting or working on closing games, who to subsitute / or timings of substitutions is not acknowledged or worked on.
I support CP and the players 100%. Analyse, learn the lessons and ensure that Charlton move up the table.
Just a shame some people never praise him, in fact they don't even log on when things are going well.
Sup Choice.
February 9
Could it not be Powell at fault? I know that is hard for some to comprehend but maybe, just maybe, its not Powell and maybe just maybe the eleven players ON THE FECKIN PITCH should have defended a little bit better.
Best comment on this topic, agree 100% defenders def at fault! Not Chris Powell.
I wish I had a fucking dog to kick!
I get as frustrated as anyone by us letting leads slip but I never like seeing us not win full stop.
What is unfair is to criticise ONLY which is what Nicholas and Choice do.
What is unfair is to HIDE when things are going well. Again what Nicolas and Choice do
What is unfair is to use any setback as a stick to beat Powell when ever week teams lose. Every manager loses, every team and every player gets it wrong sometime.
Yesterday we played well, Powell got the line up right, we created lots of chances which were missed (none by Powell). He made the subs that the those on here with far more tactical knowledge than Powell had demanded but the defence gave Brum one chance and got punished.
It hurts but the knee jerk reactions on here are far more painful to read.
It seems chucking a big tall defensive player on like dervite who can deal with the likes of zigic was the wrong sub.
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. It doesn't always have to have an automatic rider that the poster is grateful for all the other positive attributes of the manager.
Nice to know you're still looking in on the old place.