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Promotion anybody ?

Given the chance, would you want us to go up this season ? I really enjoyed our time in the Prem, but a lot of that was because I am able to appreciate top players, teams playing great football etc. I don't hate any teams, just violent supporters. The last team I hated was Don Revie's bunch of Leeds thugs. I can appreciate good football played in a good spirit, but I would prefer to go up with at least a strong enough squad to compete as we did last time. What do you think ?
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  • Obviously would take it, but not sure we're ready yet!
  • I feel we are hopelessly unready for the Prem ......as a club, let alone team and quality of player.

    But if by some miracle it happens, then I'd be over the moon.
    And so would OohAah.

    ;o)
  • yes please .. all that luvverly paraglide money when we go strait down will set us up for a good few years .. so long as the management does not fritter it away on rubbish players and high wages
  • Go up, come down, pocket the cash, re-build the team
  • A club like Charlton will realistically never be a 100% Premiership club in my opinion, so in that sense we're always going to be somewhat 'unprepared' for full stabilization there. Especially in this day and age.

    I'd most definitely take it. Nobody in the Championship is big enough to pick and choose when they should go up, so you've gotta take a chance if it comes along.
  • cafctom said:

    A club like Charlton will realistically never be a 100% Premiership club in my opinion

    What does that mean Tom? What criteria are you using?

  • Slater and Co would have us sold the minute promotion was won ! Saying that though look at QPR and all the money they have spent its hard to buy a team to stay up and do well if you don't have a good squad in the first place .
  • What. And never play Millwall again. No Ta.
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    had a little look at the table earlier and our next two games are ones id mark as 'winnable' on paper.

    then if we can beat Millwall, and its a massive IF, we will have an outrageous buzz about the place and be right in the mix.

    granted, we wont even have played half our games, but its great to be looking ahead and not at that bottom 3.
  • Palace's co-owner said last week that he reckoned that promotion was worth £100m in tv money and parachute payments. Whether we're ready or not, you can't turn that down.
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  • cafctom said:

    A club like Charlton will realistically never be a 100% Premiership club in my opinion

    What does that mean Tom? What criteria are you using?

    A mixture of things really - natural fanbase, financial resource, history, stadium etc.

    We are the sort of club that has the potential to become as big as what Stoke are now (recent Europa League experience and an FA Cup Final), who I think have maybe reached a limit.

    I would say half the clubs in the Premier League at the moment are always going to be looking over their shoulder somewhat in fear of falling down a division.

    A lot of it comes down to the vast gap between the major clubs and the rest.

    Even when we were in the Premier League for seven seasons, there was always a lingering thought that it was something that probably wouldn't last forever. We were always likely to move backwards a gear than forwards. Unless you finish in the top 5 regularly, you never know what could happen to your club (with the exception of maybe Liverpool or Spurs).
  • Palace's co-owner said last week that he reckoned that promotion was worth £100m in tv money and parachute payments. Whether we're ready or not, you can't turn that down.

    I'm actually quite surprised we don't see more teams being bought up as an investment. Spend £30m on a squad to pretty much buy the Championship and then sit back, not spend another penny and watch the £100m come in. You'd be the most unpopular owner in the history of football but you'd still have made £70m!

  • You are always ready for promotion IMO. You can't pick or chose when it happens and I suspect we will need it to keep certain players. I have believed from before the season started that we have the quality of squad to achieve that aim - now the squad looks even stronger. We had a stuttering start - true - a combination of not getting the rub of the green, injuries and finding our feet but if there are many better squads in this Division, I'm not sure who they are!
  • New TV money comes in next season as well...
  • Leave it
  • Rizzo said:

    Palace's co-owner said last week that he reckoned that promotion was worth £100m in tv money and parachute payments. Whether we're ready or not, you can't turn that down.

    I'm actually quite surprised we don't see more teams being bought up as an investment. Spend £30m on a squad to pretty much buy the Championship and then sit back, not spend another penny and watch the £100m come in. You'd be the most unpopular owner in the history of football but you'd still have made £70m!

    If only it were that simple!! My guess is that TJ is scouring the world looking for somebody(s) gullible enough to believe your "pitch", but without success!! If only!!
  • Im not sure we our ready and might be better off going for it next year, if things can be stabilised behind the scenes but like most proper football fans emotion wins over sense and would love it if we somehow got promoted this season.
  • How does receiving £100 million for doing well not make business sense?

    Great emotional value in promotion, great business advantage in being a Premiership club.

    Billy Davies used to come up with things like "I'm not sure we're ready for promotion just yet" when he was with Forest. They had their chances, didn't take them, and they are still in this league.
  • personally - NO as because of where we live we only go to away matches and as non season tickets holders I doubt we would get tickets, also the added cost of Prem tickets.

    clubwise - YES even if you get demoted and become a yo-yo club for a few years it is worth it with the current size of the parachute payments, then eventually you hope to become a West Brom or Stoke.
  • The 1 year we'd be up for would be hell... But looking at it longer term, I'd vote yes.. As long as the Board expected us to go down again, and didn't sack SCP when it happened!!
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  • Stranger things have happened though. Norwich have survived their first season back in the Premiership with a number of players taken from the Football League.

    Who on earth would have thought Wigan would still be in the Premier League after all these years?!
  • cafctom said:

    Stranger things have happened though. Norwich have survived their first season back in the Premiership with a number of players taken from the Football League.

    Who on earth would have thought Wigan would still be in the Premier League after all these years?!

    o

    Wigan were one if those teams I had in mind re:your 100% Premiership comment. Have they and Stoke and Fulham and (now) WBA not been there long enough to be thought of as a 100% Premiership team and if so what would be to stop us potentially doing the same? Not that I'm saying we will though...
  • Anything can happen in this league-you just need to go on a run and the confidence from players and fans alike will lift you right up this league.

    Palace and Millwall are on those runs and if we can just win a couple at home we won't be far off them.

    Wonder what price a bookie would give on the three of us getting promoted come the end of the season?
  • Stoke haven't in my opinion. They are very similar to what we were in our Prem days and we ended up spending three seasons in League One. I would also say that Fulham aren't a 100% Premiership club. All it takes at the likes of WBA, Stoke or Fulham is to have a couple of big things/mistakes take place. In our example, losing Alan Curbishley.

    The likes of Everton, United, City, Liverpool etc can take the big blows (managerial changes, big players leaving etc) and still have enough to keep themselves in the league without too many problems. That can't be said of any club outside of the top 6 in my opinion.
  • 0% chance according to ooh Aah - for that reason I'm in !!!
  • No, I would like a couple of seasons in this league, with a couple of good cup runs, get the fans enjoying some success and the fan base building. When you realise that we cannot compete in the Prem without significant investment it becomes soul destroying. Personally I like this league, any team can beat any team, I dont want us to be Premiership cannon fodder again.
    However if a sqwillionaire was to came along and invest, then up the football league we go!"
  • If you can survive a season you get stronger. But it would also increase the opportunity of a backer coming in and at worst bring mega bucks into the club. If we went down after one season, we'd be stronger for the next year unless we took a risky approach by spending big money which I'm sure we would not. It would mean we could keep Solly and one or two others.

    You have to be a mug not to want it.
  • First of all I do not think we are good enough to go up and I think the Championship is our natural level. However if it did happen then yes it would be great but not for footballing reasons. Obviously none of us know the details but I'm sure someone said on here the debt to the former directors would be due if we were promoted to the Prem. With that paid off we would be a very attractive investment and I believe we would have new owners before the season finished. Powell would have to be a miracle worker to keep us up though.
  • I can understand why some fans prefer this league but i can't get past how you can not want to see the club playing at the highest level possible.
  • Any problems in the club are more likely to be fixed by this than anything else. Not good enough to go up!- our squad is looking very strong at the moment - who have stronger squads? We have the best Right back in the league and excellent defenders and keeper. We have Stephens who is showing the player he can be, Frimpong, Prtichard and Jackson - that is a strong central option and strikers - Fuller, Haynes, Hulse, BWP and Kermogant - if that wa sanother team, i'd be concerned about them! And we have a great manager -what more is there to say?
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