Should be using him off the bench ahead of the overrated and slower Danny Green.
Not sure why he is being written off, yet within a couple of good games Green had apparently proven himself as a Championship player. As said he was as good if not better than Green last season.
You need the right balance between passers/players sitting back and movement/energy/pace - something we've seen in our two wins in a row with Pritchard on the right (another written off when playing out wide as he's not a typical winger).
Personally would much rather have him competing with Wilson(when fit) for that postion then Green, even if we dont get those very rare moments of magic that Green can provide.
Depends on the distance. Haynes over anything up to 50 yards I'd say. Waggy might have a chance over a pitch length but I'd still back Haynes. Any further than that Waggy.
Definitely. Waggy looks quick against tiring league one defenders but Haynes was scaring the hell out of Cardiff the other night from minute one.
I hope he has some kind of impact this season but, barring a winger injury crisis, can't see that happening. I do remember a similar conversation on here last season though and he proved us all wrong then............
He's going to have to find something from somewhere or he will be leaving soon. No comment on wagstaff as a player but it seems once you are out of favour with powell then your cafc days are numbered.
He's going to have to find something from somewhere or he will be leaving soon. No comment on wagstaff as a player but it seems once you are out of favour with powell then your cafc days are numbered.
Not sure that this true. At the Bromley meet he admitted that Waggy had given him something to think about and he kept him in the side which suggests taht you can play your way into his side and he will give you a chance - which is as it should be. He was unlucky with an injury at the begining of this season, but was the chosen starter. CP said he would give everyone a chance at this level and no one can suggest that Waggy has had a fair chance yet.
I think he should get a chance from the bench at some point this season and believe he fits more into a 5 midfield team than green as he has the energy to make those runs, which is what is required to make that system work.
I feel that Wagstaff gets a lot of leeway on here because he came up from the ranks and by all accounts he is a nice bloke. He isn't that young anymore and has had 80 starts for the club and another 52 as sub. He is in danger as being described as promising until he reaches his late twenties a la Lisbie. Solly came into the side at a later age and developed and developed until he not only is an essential part of the team but probably has realistic expectations of being able to play at a higher level. Wagstaff came into the first team set-up as a teenager and quickly reached a plateau. He has pace but is not lighting fast and is not full of trickery. Although clearly not a waste of space I don't think I have ever seen him be the dominant force in a game: it certainly never excites me when I see him lining up as a starter.
That said, he clearly has an eye for goal and will work hard. If he is ever to make it consistently at this level or above I feel it is playing behind a striker and using his pace to support the frontman.
Almost definitely Haynes. But who has the better stamina. Someone at the club told me that Waggy smashes everyone in the bleep tests and has done since he made the squad. A good turn of pace and an engine that operates for 90 minutes is a great asset. Right at the moment if we had to pick 14 players to complete the season Waggy would probably not be in the group or he'd sit between 11 and 14, but that's not how it works. Squad game and he has some assets that make him valuabe in that.
I reckon if we ever get rid of him this site will be done in a week. Where will everyone go without the merits or otherwise of Waggy to debate? I don't think there's another player who generates the same debate over and over with such fervour. We'll never hear from Henry again
He has a decent turn of pace, and unlike Haynes you don'y expect him to pull up every time he sprints after the ball.
He does suffer from not nailing down a position, he doesn't have the final ball to be a winger, and isn't a full time striker either. A bit like, dare I say, Darren Ambrose, effective if you build the team to accommodate him, but can be a luxury if he doesn't score.
I've seen Waggy written off so many times, but whenever he works his way back into the team, he proves people wrong and scores goals. I'm thinking the beginning of last season where he was red hot and the end of last season in the run in.
I've seen Waggy written off so many times, but whenever he works his way back into the team, he proves people wrong and scores goals. I'm thinking the beginning of last season where he was red hot and the end of last season in the run in.
I reckon if we ever get rid of him this site will be done in a week. Where will everyone go without the merits or otherwise of Waggy to debate? I don't think there's another player who generates the same debate over and over with such fervour. We'll never hear from Henry again
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not.
Danny Haynes is IMO the quickest player the club has had since Rommedahl.
I like Wagstaff and certainly wouldn't get rid of him. My mate is an Orient fan and he said they were playing him as a striker and not a wide player mostly. When he did play wide he looked better, but other than that he had very little impact from the sounds of it.
Personally don't see him as a striker so no idea why he gets played there.
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not
I'd say he has pace, but he is very one dimensional, so a defender just needs to stand in his way and he is done. He also got into a habit of falling over, lying down and appealing for 5 minutes.
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not
I'd say he has pace, but he is very one dimensional, so a defender just needs to stand in his way and he is done. He also got into a habit of falling over, lying down and appealing for 5 minutes.
To be fair, he also got out of that habit fairly sharpish and we did not see that behaviour in his run in the team towards the end of last season.
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not
I'd say he has pace, but he is very one dimensional, so a defender just needs to stand in his way and he is done. He also got into a habit of falling over, lying down and appealing for 5 minutes.
Yet despite this he still scores goals and contributes assists.
He came back into the team for the run in and gave it a boost.
Now he's got over his injuries we'll see what he can do but it was only a week or two ago that Jackson and Stephens were being written off and Haynes was the forgotten man who'd never be fit.
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not
I'd say he has pace, but he is very one dimensional, so a defender just needs to stand in his way and he is done. He also got into a habit of falling over, lying down and appealing for 5 minutes.
Yet despite this he still scores goals and contributes assists.
He came back into the team for the run in and gave it a boost.
Now he's got over his injuries we'll see what he can do but it was only a week or two ago that Jackson and Stephens were being written off and Haynes was the forgotten man who'd never be fit.
And yet the two-bob Beckham was our highest assist-maker last year. Strange.
Wagstaff doesn't strike me as overly quick, he doesn't beat his man too often. It's hard to put my finger on, but he just has a very energetic style which I think gets interpreted as 'pace' more often than not
I'd say he has pace, but he is very one dimensional, so a defender just needs to stand in his way and he is done. He also got into a habit of falling over, lying down and appealing for 5 minutes.
Yet despite this he still scores goals and contributes assists.
He came back into the team for the run in and gave it a boost.
Now he's got over his injuries we'll see what he can do but it was only a week or two ago that Jackson and Stephens were being written off and Haynes was the forgotten man who'd never be fit.
And yet the two-bob Beckham was our highest assist-maker last year. Strange.
Firstly no he wasn't BWP was. And BWP never took any corners or free-kicks
And the two bob beckham got all of three goals one of which the keeper threw in the net which was less than Waggy got in fewer games.
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Not sure why he is being written off, yet within a couple of good games Green had apparently proven himself as a Championship player. As said he was as good if not better than Green last season.
You need the right balance between passers/players sitting back and movement/energy/pace - something we've seen in our two wins in a row with Pritchard on the right (another written off when playing out wide as he's not a typical winger).
His heart is in the right place and be good to see him get his head down an improve.
Being a nice bloke doesn't mean you'll succeed in professional football.
I hope he has some kind of impact this season but, barring a winger injury crisis, can't see that happening. I do remember a similar conversation on here last season though and he proved us all wrong then............
I think he should get a chance from the bench at some point this season and believe he fits more into a 5 midfield team than green as he has the energy to make those runs, which is what is required to make that system work.
That said, he clearly has an eye for goal and will work hard. If he is ever to make it consistently at this level or above I feel it is playing behind a striker and using his pace to support the frontman.
He does suffer from not nailing down a position, he doesn't have the final ball to be a winger, and isn't a full time striker either. A bit like, dare I say, Darren Ambrose, effective if you build the team to accommodate him, but can be a luxury if he doesn't score.
And the last 10 or so.
Danny Haynes is IMO the quickest player the club has had since Rommedahl.
Personally don't see him as a striker so no idea why he gets played there.
He came back into the team for the run in and gave it a boost.
Now he's got over his injuries we'll see what he can do but it was only a week or two ago that Jackson and Stephens were being written off and Haynes was the forgotten man who'd never be fit.
And the two bob beckham got all of three goals one of which the keeper threw in the net which was less than Waggy got in fewer games.
Plus Waggy bothers to get back and defend.