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  • Dont be afraid to hate millwall
  • What determines whether an addick hates Palace or Millwall more? 

    I was there in the Selhurst days but still my feelings against Millwall are far greater than those concerned with Palace. 

    Does my dislike of Millwall come from the 2-2 at the old den all those years back when we were 2 up with 5 to go or from the new years eve in the Greyhound in Eltham when just for being Charlton one of them tried to bottle my mate over the head on his way to the bar? 

    Therefore when it comes to hating Palace more I just don't get it. Are younger supporters swayed because of the 'recent' rivalry of sending Palace down or that it's easier to hate a nerd than a neanderthal?

    Or is it that some went to school, work with, come from the same area or have Millwall mates?

    Or just that there's more in common with a Millwall supporter than a Palace one? I mean a penchant for terrace wear and the powder that seems to keep the economy of bermondsey thriving?

    Even so, let's bury Palace in a couple of weeks and pray that League One awaits them.

    The joys of living in Eltham....is the Chequers and White Hart still there...tended to get a 'few' Millwall in there.
  • Millwall's more bragging rights for me, Palace are just the pathetic spotty kid wearing fake adidas trainers in a playground who can't help mouthing off to everyone but gets a good hiding everyday.
  • What determines whether an addick hates Palace or Millwall more? 

    I was there in the Selhurst days but still my feelings against Millwall are far greater than those concerned with Palace. 

    Does my dislike of Millwall come from the 2-2 at the old den all those years back when we were 2 up with 5 to go or from the new years eve in the Greyhound in Eltham when just for being Charlton one of them tried to bottle my mate over the head on his way to the bar? 

    Therefore when it comes to hating Palace more I just don't get it. Are younger supporters swayed because of the 'recent' rivalry of sending Palace down or that it's easier to hate a nerd than a neanderthal?

    Or is it that some went to school, work with, come from the same area or have Millwall mates?

    Or just that there's more in common with a Millwall supporter than a Palace one? I mean a penchant for terrace wear and the powder that seems to keep the economy of bermondsey thriving?

    Even so, let's bury Palace in a couple of weeks and pray that League One awaits them.

    The joys of living in Eltham....is the Chequers and White Hart still there...tended to get a 'few' Millwall in there.
    I think the White Heart is a posh carvers with table service etc now !!
  • The Man of Kent was the place to be in the 80's.
  • edited August 2012
    This is how I see it.

    Millwall I understand. I understand their fans, I understand why someone would support them. They are, at the very least, a traditional football club.

    Palace. My God. What are they about? Why would anyone support them? They stand for nothing. They can't decide what they want to be. Though now they seem to want to be a sh*t Italian team. They can't decide on their colours or badge. I hate what they are trying to do. They're a English club, act like one and stop titting around with flares.

    They call us clowns? They're the ones turning Sellout into a f*cking circus. Animals, fireworks and dancing girls. Man alive.
  • If Charlton won only four games this season as long as it was against Palace and Millwall that would be enough for me .The last time we played Palace at the Valley i was there,hatred for Palace you bet.
    Goes back to late 1960s beat them in fa cup replay at Selhurst when over half the ground was taken over by Charlton,but missed out on Division One by finishing one place below Palace that season,it began then and started to grow greater each season.We would have to wait six years to get are revenge winning 1-0 and being promoted
    from Division Three leaving Palace to play against Millwall in that division the following season.
    Losing Mike Flanagan to Palace did not help matters but bigger hatred was just around the corner,THE SELHURST YEARS ENOUGH SAID........07-09-85.......THE WHITE PAPER........Suddenly Palace fans are coming out the woodwork
    in 1990 and you can bet your bottom dollar that had Wimbledon not put us down too Division Two aweek before we
    played Palace and lost 2-0 you would not have heard the last of it from them.
    There is a banner in the Covered End that states fortune 84th minute let them remember that fact.
    As for the past few years that is still fresh in your minds or should be.
    LET THEM KNOW WE ARE CHARLTON AND THIS IS OUR VALLEY on the 14th Sept.

    Fortune 84th Minute? You sure? If so, s**t!

    I was sure it was the 82nd minute - may have to change my name now!

  • EastStand said:

    This is how I see it.

    Millwall I understand. I understand their fans, I understand why someone would support them. They are, at the very least, a traditional football club.

    Palace. My God. What are they about? Why would anyone support them? They stand for nothing. They can't decide what they want to be. Though now they seem to want to be a sh*t Italian team. They can't decide on their colours or badge. I hate what they are trying to do. They're a English club, act like one and stop titting around with flares.

    They call us clowns? They're the ones turning Sellout into a f*cking circus. Animals, fireworks and dancing girls. Man alive.

    Spot on. At least Millwall have an identity which they're proud of (and its not all based on hooliganism and fighting).

    Crystal Palace just have that slimey, underhand, horrible, fake feel about them. Simon Jordan absolutely personifies the club in the way he acts. The whole cheerleaders, ultras thing with the big Americanized eagle - I despise them, no two ways about it!!
  • It seems some of us hate Palace more than Millwall and visa versa. Over the years I've seen my hate for Palace grow and for Millwall diminish to the point I merely don't like them now.
  • EastStand said:

    This is how I see it.

    Millwall I understand. I understand their fans, I understand why someone would support them. They are, at the very least, a traditional football club.

    Palace. My God. What are they about? Why would anyone support them? They stand for nothing. They can't decide what they want to be. Though now they seem to want to be a sh*t Italian team. They can't decide on their colours or badge. I hate what they are trying to do. They're a English club, act like one and stop titting around with flares.

    They call us clowns? They're the ones turning Sellout into a f*cking circus. Animals, fireworks and dancing girls. Man alive.

    I'm in love with this post.
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  • Just seen that Paddy McCarthy is out for 6 weeks, what a shame!
  • It is a shame- I think BWP and a fit Haynes would have enjoyed playing against the slowest Charlton defender I can remember.
  • I'll settle for wanting to beat them and singing "who are ya?" and "you're not singing any more / over there" more than I did at, say, Yeovil.

    Just been on their Holmesdale forum, they are calling us clowns. The only ones making people laugh at the moment is them!
    That's brilliant. It's no fun thrashing opposition who expect to get beat.

    Higher their self-belief the further they'll fall.
  • The triumphalist tone of this thread might be best postponed until after the transfer window closes.
  • I dont mind Millwall the club, the fans are complete bellends.

    Palace are assholes, both club and fans.
  • That's a good question its not who do i like more out of millscum and palarse who do i hate the less. Dislike everything about palarse the ultras are just a joke. I hate Millscum just more especially are that showing on 13/3/2010. We haven't played Millscum a lot over last 20 years so i can see why people hate palace more than millwall.
  • I feel sick just received an invitation to my niece's engagement party Friday 14th September, there is no way I can make up a believable excuse as everyone knows I am a huge Charlton fan. Do I go to the party and keep everyone (apart from me) happy or go to the match and my husband and daughter (who has been asked to be a bridesmaid) will probably not speak to me for weeks?
  • This is not even nearly a tough one, the game all day long!
  • edited August 2012

    I feel sick just received an invitation to my niece's engagement party Friday 14th September, there is no way I can make up a believable excuse as everyone knows I am a huge Charlton fan. Do I go to the party and keep everyone (apart from me) happy or go to the match and my husband and daughter (who has been asked to be a bridesmaid) will probably not speak to me for weeks?

    Tough one. I've only missed about 5 home games in 40 years, all due to weddings.
    What really peed me off is that they didn't even have the decency to stay together. All now divorced, so I missed the games for nothing.
    If you're gonna miss the game I suggest you get something in writing from them to confirm that they will be together until death do they part, a sort of Charlton pre nup :-)
  • You could go to the party but insist on watching it on the telly.
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  • I thought of that it is at Fleetdown FC wonder if they have Sky?
  • Say that you've got to play for Charlton. That might be believable depending on what happens in the next few days.
  • cafctom said:

    EastStand said:

    This is how I see it.

    Millwall I understand. I understand their fans, I understand why someone would support them. They are, at the very least, a traditional football club.

    Palace. My God. What are they about? Why would anyone support them? They stand for nothing. They can't decide what they want to be. Though now they seem to want to be a sh*t Italian team. They can't decide on their colours or badge. I hate what they are trying to do. They're a English club, act like one and stop titting around with flares.

    They call us clowns? They're the ones turning Sellout into a f*cking circus. Animals, fireworks and dancing girls. Man alive.

    Spot on. At least Millwall have an identity which they're proud of (and its not all based on hooliganism and fighting).

    Crystal Palace just have that slimey, underhand, horrible, fake feel about them. Simon Jordan absolutely personifies the club in the way he acts. The whole cheerleaders, ultras thing with the big Americanized eagle - I despise them, no two ways about it!!
    Agree with that 100%..
  • cafctom said:

    EastStand said:

    This is how I see it.

    Millwall I understand. I understand their fans, I understand why someone would support them. They are, at the very least, a traditional football club.

    Palace. My God. What are they about? Why would anyone support them? They stand for nothing. They can't decide what they want to be. Though now they seem to want to be a sh*t Italian team. They can't decide on their colours or badge. I hate what they are trying to do. They're a English club, act like one and stop titting around with flares.

    They call us clowns? They're the ones turning Sellout into a f*cking circus. Animals, fireworks and dancing girls. Man alive.

    Spot on. At least Millwall have an identity which they're proud of (and its not all based on hooliganism and fighting).

    Crystal Palace just have that slimey, underhand, horrible, fake feel about them. Simon Jordan absolutely personifies the club in the way he acts. The whole cheerleaders, ultras thing with the big Americanized eagle - I despise them, no two ways about it!!
    Agree with that 100%..
    And me - got plenty of Millwall mates who are as good as gold, not really got a P alace mate and, in general, Palace supporters I have met would not choose to have a beer with
  • palace losing 1-0 already tonight haha
  • If you use freeze frame carefully when watching a Palace crowd you can actually see some of their forked tongues and the fact that some of them don't have eyelids.
  • 2-0 preston comedy
  • Mike said:

    2-0 preston comedy

    Mike said:

    2-0 preston comedy

    akpo sodje ffs.
  • Noticed Rod Liddle called them Nigels in the Time the other day:

    WHY DOES Victor Moses wish to play — intermittently, one supposes — for Chelsea? Do you think that, a year from now, we will remember who he is?

    Every season has its couple of wingers who excite and enthral, usually for somewhat unfancied teams. Last year it was Moses at Wigan and Junior Hoilett at Blackburn Rovers. Both have moved on. Hoilett, who was at times stunning for the Venky’s chicken franchise, is now ensconced at QPR, where one imagines he will continue to shine in a struggle against relegation every bit as compelling as the one he endured last season. Moses — who had impressed greatly for a few years while playing for the Nigels, aka Crystal Palace — has made the leap up to Chelsea for a modest £9m. I mean modest in the deranged world of football economics, of course.

    Dave Whelan, the Wigan chairman, attempted to persuade his star to remain at the club. However, Moses probably replied that he had seen a burning bush, which, although alight, was not consumed by the flames and which, further, spoke to him, saying: “Lo! Moses, head for the land of Lamps and Ashley the Choc Ice, for you will find great happiness there, not to mention sackloads of wonga.”

    I hope it works out for the chap, for he is a talented lad and seems a likeable fellow. But too often the most mercurial players, and especially wingers, fade into nothingness when they join a big club — especially Chelsea. They get lost from view, the psychology is all wrong and they end up being sent on loan to QPR, or, almost as bad, simply forgotten.

    Victor should have a word with Shaun Wright-Phillips for a succinct summary of how this can happen. Moses is, I think, a better player than SWP, who occasionally resembled a decapitated whippet on amphetamines and whose end product was frequently lacking. Moses tends to finish moves, rather than simply initiate them and end up sweating and confused near the corner flag.

    But the warning is there. You swap a comfortable berth where you have security and tenure for a more exalted place where you are simply one among many. The European champions have spent prodigiously this summer but irritatingly are still allowed to field only 11 players on the pitch at one time. I hope that, if Victor makes a slowish start, he will not be charged solely with the task of helping his team exit the Capital One Cup at the earliest opportunity.
  • DOWN THE OLD VALLEY!
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