I'd be worried about his judgement if he started releasing information about the detail of private meetings between members of the board or their employees or directors. I don't tell my clients what goes on in our team meetings.
Richard Cawley is a wonderful, professional and highly ethical journalist I am sure but perhaps he could have asked a few more incisive questions such as why did Peter Varney and Alex Newell leave or what is the relationship between Chris Powell and Tony Jimenez like?
He most likely won't have got very full answers but all the same.
Richard Cawley is a wonderful, professional and highly ethical journalist I am sure but perhaps he could have asked a few more incisive questions such as why did Peter Varney and Alex Newell leave or what is the relationship between Chris Powell and Tony Jimenez like?
He most likely won't have got very full answers but all the same.
we don't know though if he was even given an opportunity to ask such questions. On the other hand he may have done but MS refused to answer or fudged the issue. He probably didn't but we can't say for sure that he didn't.
Richard Cawley is a wonderful, professional and highly ethical journalist I am sure but perhaps he could have asked a few more incisive questions such as why did Peter Varney and Alex Newell leave or what is the relationship between Chris Powell and Tony Jimenez like?
He most likely won't have got very full answers but all the same.
we don't know though if he was even given an opportunity to ask such questions. On the other hand he may have done but MS refused to answer or fudged the issue. He probably didn't but we can't say for sure that he didn't.
Quite possible and we only have an extract from the SLP.
a) He was hardly likely to air the dirty linen in public. Assuming there IS as much dirty linen as people here think there is b) Chairman, for some strange reason never say "we've got tons of cash to splash, bring it on!" as it pushes prices up c) We are now competing against clubs of a similar stature to ourselves, whereas last summer we were by far the most attractive destination for any southern based footballer in L1.
I think people are overreacting a little here. The statement is exactly what I thought it would be and nothing Slater has said gives me any cause for concern. In fact I pretty much agree with everything he says. It appears that all this hysteria which has built up over the past week has resulted in some of us losing sight of the reality of the situation - i.e. we have a solid team who, regardless of whether or not we make further signings, should be more than able to hold their one in the Championship next season.
I ask you all two questions..
1) Did you really expect us to go out there and sign 1 mill plus players given the previous statements made by the board about running the club using sound financial judgement?
2) What makes you think we are not actively trying to sign players? It is only the 6th of July after all.
It does beg the question, why respond to "gossip" and then talk about the thing the "gossip" wasn't about. If he's been alerted to the conversations on here then he'll know it's much more significant than lack of signings, the more level headed of us know that even if nothing is being done publicly stuff must be going on behind the scenes - the issues are the cash-flow situation, people leaving, budgets *changing* mid transfer negotiation, TJ interfering with SCP etc.
Obviously he was never going to answer those sort of questions in the SLP though so I wish he'd said nothing at all.
(unless he got doorstepped by someone from the SLP as he left a meeting and was caught unaware and had to say something spontaneously - that quote does sound like it was said in response to a question rather than being a "statement" made to the press)
Agree with this. Never expected any mention of any rumours or gossip in his statement, just some sort of loosely positive, ambiguous company line. That would've been totally understandable. I find it a little weird that he even mentions gossip at all? Unless like LeaburnForEngland says, he was hounded/doorstepped for an answer to "THE RUMOURS".
Cawley (a week late) gets wind of what's been raised on here and phones the club press office asking if its true. Gets a no comment from them, but promised a quote from the chairman for the next paper.
And that's what you get, a filler of a piece.
Spot on. It wasn't an interview. It was a statement. I'd wager Cawley didn't even speak to Slater but was provided with a written quote.
Richard Cawley is a wonderful, professional and highly ethical journalist I am sure but perhaps he could have asked a few more incisive questions such as why did Peter Varney and Alex Newell leave or what is the relationship between Chris Powell and Tony Jimenez like?
He most likely won't have got very full answers but all the same.
He has said absolutely jack s***.That has really put my mind at rest.Thanks Michael.PS why exactly did you bother with that statement?
But what exactly were you expecting him to say?
"Chris signed players to create a team that we believed would be able to compete in the Championship" Which he did say at the time.So until they compete in the championship we won't know for sure.
"whereas in the Championship there are plenty of other big clubs vying for the players we are trying to sign" Which is true considering the players we seem to have lost out on.
" I've heard about some gossip about the club"
And that's all it is.Gossip.No chairman is going to go into the particulars of gossip.Murray for one never used to. As far as Slater's concerned ,the names above the door are all still here.The apparent mystery investors have been given anonymity for exactly this kind of reason.Nobody on here can say for absolute certainty who these people are so why would Slater come out and say whether they've got their knickers in a twist/ left or not? I've no doubt that something has gone awry somewhere along the line but until the likes of Varney or the people that are supposedly owed money start banging their drum a bit louder I doubt we'll hear anything.
a) He was hardly likely to air the dirty linen in public. Assuming there IS as much dirty linen as people here think there is b) Chairman, for some strange reason never say "we've got tons of cash to splash, bring it on!" as it pushes prices up c) We are now competing against clubs of a similar stature to ourselves, whereas last summer we were by far the most attractive destination for any southern based footballer in L1.
Completely right.
Even if we were rolling in it would never say 'We're rich, our backer is minted and we're going to sign everyone.' He's not a complete idiot, thankfully.
Have posted elsewhere that everything that was said when the new owners came in has been done. Really haven't got the near hysteria on here over the last week or so and certainly wouldn't want to have our Chairman respond to internet rumours in public, giving any credence to them or highlighting anything to our competitors.
Absolutely right that we should be vigilant and keep an eye on what is happening at our club given our history. At the moment though, these guys have done what they said they would, in the way that they said and Chris and the team have delivered promotion with a record breaking season.
I think they have all earned a bit of trust from us.
I don't see why the chairman of a football club should be expected to respond to a load of hysterical gossip on a football forum.
Agree with this.
Not in the slightest doubting what the original posters have said in airing concerns but the fact that they (uinderstandably) won't reveal their variety of sources for fear of jeopardising their sources signals to me that it is a confidential matter and that the board don't want it aired therefore wouldnt expect them to reveal in in the South Victimwall Press.
Im sure that 15-20 years ago this sort of thing went on in football all the time behind the scenes but knowledge of trouble and strife within a club probably stayed in the club until the club decided to or were forced to make it public. Perhaps a few in the know folks would have been privy to secret info but the info would have been restricted to telling a few mates in the pub. Nowdays with t'internet we fish for every tit bit of info and often get 5 when adding 2+2 and sometimes do get 4.
A lot of it is speculation and whilst gut instinct based on those who have posted is that there is probably something going on behind the scenes that would cause concern it is slightly unrealistic to expect a board to comment on internet rumour regardless of whether staff read it.
This is a great forum and (as Ive found out before when trying to refrain visiting it) very addictive. To many of us we'll check it on a daily if not hourly basis for any smidgen of info about our beloved club and that's credit to CL. However I think we can often lose perspective that it is a fan's chatroom that is only really used and representative of a proportion of our fan base. Just because something on here is a huge issue to us CL members it might not even be on the radar of most addicks and therefore expecting the board/ club to respond to every issue highlighted on here is a bit unrealistic and perhaps a touch arrogant.
If we are in/ heading for a shit storm it will become apparent but at the same time I dont expect the board to respond what are rumours from unamed sources who probably should have kept schtum in the first place. If there is a problem likely to be "unthinkable" for us all then surely they should go public to all fans so that all Charlton fans can get involved to do what they can to show their disapproval/ help rectify whatever situation it is. Telling a few mates/ contacts who then (understandably) post their concerns on a major fans forum causing panic without substantial facts is a bit irresponsible and I cant see the point of them passing on the info without telling the receivers to keep it to themselves.
Recently finished Simon Jordan's candid autobiography and to be fair the day to day headaches and drams he incurred during his ten year tenure at Palace would have most forums in meltdown on an hourly basis. It is probably the same at most clubs.
As I said in one of my original posts on this thread I'm impressed how the board rescued us and what has been done on and off the pitch since they came in. Until that changes in a way i can see it for myself with my own eyes and ears I'll continue to have faith in them and their stewardship. Whilst of course Ill bear concern at whats posted on here until I see facts for myself it's difficult to not feel anything but content with the club at the moment. This could of course change overnight but I've not seen anything so far to signal it will.
I understood that we built last season's squad on the basis it was young hungry players that were undervalued and had the ability to cut it in the Championship (ie the Moneyball model). As far as I can see we still have that squad and whilst we do need additions I dont expect or want us to be in a rush to get in reams of Carlos Kickaballs and Premiership mercanaries in the moulds of Bouazza et al where we got badly burned before.
I think people are overreacting a little here. The statement is exactly what I thought it would be and nothing Slater has said gives me any cause for concern. In fact I pretty much agree with everything he says. It appears that all this hysteria which has built up over the past week has resulted in some of us losing sight of the reality of the situation - i.e. we have a solid team who, regardless of whether or not we make further signings, should be more than able to hold their one in the Championship next season.
I ask you all two questions..
1) Did you really expect us to go out there and sign 1 mill plus players given the previous statements made by the board about running the club using sound financial judgement?
2) What makes you think we are not actively trying to sign players? It is only the 6th of July after all.
Just my thoughts..
Fk
Agree with this, marquee signings are all very well but we need the right players to complement what we already have. We have much more of a solid foundation than last season
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its a run of the mill comment from the club and suggests nothing more that the club wont panic buy because other clubs may pip us to some signings.
people forget that we are newly promoted. the premiership years have long gone.
Richard Cawley is a wonderful, professional and highly ethical journalist I am sure but perhaps he could have asked a few more incisive questions such as why did Peter Varney and Alex Newell leave or what is the relationship between Chris Powell and Tony Jimenez like?
He most likely won't have got very full answers but all the same.
Quite possible and we only have an extract from the SLP.
Hi Guys BTW : - )
b) Chairman, for some strange reason never say "we've got tons of cash to splash, bring it on!" as it pushes prices up
c) We are now competing against clubs of a similar stature to ourselves, whereas last summer we were by far the most attractive destination for any southern based footballer in L1.
I ask you all two questions..
1) Did you really expect us to go out there and sign 1 mill plus players given the previous statements made by the board about running the club using sound financial judgement?
2) What makes you think we are not actively trying to sign players? It is only the 6th of July after all.
Just my thoughts..
Fk
Spot on. It wasn't an interview. It was a statement. I'd wager Cawley didn't even speak to Slater but was provided with a written quote.
"Chris signed players to create a team that we believed would be able to compete in the Championship"
Which he did say at the time.So until they compete in the championship we won't know for sure.
"whereas in the Championship there are plenty of other big clubs vying for the players we are trying to sign"
Which is true considering the players we seem to have lost out on.
" I've heard about some gossip about the club"
And that's all it is.Gossip.No chairman is going to go into the particulars of gossip.Murray for one never used to.
As far as Slater's concerned ,the names above the door are all still here.The apparent mystery investors have been given anonymity for exactly this kind of reason.Nobody on here can say for absolute certainty who these people are so why would Slater come out and say whether they've got their knickers in a twist/ left or not?
I've no doubt that something has gone awry somewhere along the line but until the likes of Varney or the people that are supposedly owed money start banging their drum a bit louder I doubt we'll hear anything.
Even if we were rolling in it would never say 'We're rich, our backer is minted and we're going to sign everyone.' He's not a complete idiot, thankfully.
Absolutely right that we should be vigilant and keep an eye on what is happening at our club given our history. At the moment though, these guys have done what they said they would, in the way that they said and Chris and the team have delivered promotion with a record breaking season.
I think they have all earned a bit of trust from us.
Didnt expect anything more from him and hope we get a signing to calm people down.
backed CP with 20+ people coming in
building the academy
WELL DONE Mr Slater and the board.
Those that expected him to come out and explain all of the ins and outs in the board room this summer were always ambitious at best.
Lots of us already knew that the squad we have amassed last season was with a view to being competitive in the championship
Not in the slightest doubting what the original posters have said in airing concerns but the fact that they (uinderstandably) won't reveal their variety of sources for fear of jeopardising their sources signals to me that it is a confidential matter and that the board don't want it aired therefore wouldnt expect them to reveal in in the South Victimwall Press.
Im sure that 15-20 years ago this sort of thing went on in football all the time behind the scenes but knowledge of trouble and strife within a club probably stayed in the club until the club decided to or were forced to make it public. Perhaps a few in the know folks would have been privy to secret info but the info would have been restricted to telling a few mates in the pub. Nowdays with t'internet we fish for every tit bit of info and often get 5 when adding 2+2 and sometimes do get 4.
A lot of it is speculation and whilst gut instinct based on those who have posted is that there is probably something going on behind the scenes that would cause concern it is slightly unrealistic to expect a board to comment on internet rumour regardless of whether staff read it.
This is a great forum and (as Ive found out before when trying to refrain visiting it) very addictive. To many of us we'll check it on a daily if not hourly basis for any smidgen of info about our beloved club and that's credit to CL. However I think we can often lose perspective that it is a fan's chatroom that is only really used and representative of a proportion of our fan base. Just because something on here is a huge issue to us CL members it might not even be on the radar of most addicks and therefore expecting the board/ club to respond to every issue highlighted on here is a bit unrealistic and perhaps a touch arrogant.
If we are in/ heading for a shit storm it will become apparent but at the same time I dont expect the board to respond what are rumours from unamed sources who probably should have kept schtum in the first place. If there is a problem likely to be "unthinkable" for us all then surely they should go public to all fans so that all Charlton fans can get involved to do what they can to show their disapproval/ help rectify whatever situation it is. Telling a few mates/ contacts who then (understandably) post their concerns on a major fans forum causing panic without substantial facts is a bit irresponsible and I cant see the point of them passing on the info without telling the receivers to keep it to themselves.
Recently finished Simon Jordan's candid autobiography and to be fair the day to day headaches and drams he incurred during his ten year tenure at Palace would have most forums in meltdown on an hourly basis. It is probably the same at most clubs.
As I said in one of my original posts on this thread I'm impressed how the board rescued us and what has been done on and off the pitch since they came in. Until that changes in a way i can see it for myself with my own eyes and ears I'll continue to have faith in them and their stewardship. Whilst of course Ill bear concern at whats posted on here until I see facts for myself it's difficult to not feel anything but content with the club at the moment. This could of course change overnight but I've not seen anything so far to signal it will.
I understood that we built last season's squad on the basis it was young hungry players that were undervalued and had the ability to cut it in the Championship (ie the Moneyball model). As far as I can see we still have that squad and whilst we do need additions I dont expect or want us to be in a rush to get in reams of Carlos Kickaballs and Premiership mercanaries in the moulds of Bouazza et al where we got badly burned before.