Are Sheffield Wednesday laying on special travel arrangements for the 5000 they're taking to Colchester, or the 2,000 they're taking to Brentford?
Do Carlisle charter a train everytime their fans have to travel down to London?
We're spoiled at Charlton - season tickets must be amongst the cheapest in the country, for the last 20-odd years we've had a forward-thinking boardroom that bends over backwards to communicate with supporters and comes up with initiatives like Valley Express to help fill the ground, still people moan though.
If you want to go to Carlisle then follow the example of the 800 who've already booked up for it and stump up the cash and go. If, for whatever reason, you can't do that, don't moan that the club hasn't made arrangements for you to be teleported up there at a subsidised rate - it's your responsibility, not the club's.
Ermmm....who's moaning Largo....haven't seen that to be honest. It's all at too late notice....I think if we'd had a bit more time then the club might have considered it.....last week-ends results not withstanding. As for you suggesting folk can somehow 'afford' to travel all the way to Carlisle without subsidised fares....there's an almighty recession going on out there...or hadn't you noticed? It would have been really nice for many fans who are finding things extremley tough at present to have taken up a subsidised fare offer. No one is saying it's the clubs duty or responsibility, but it would have been terrific if it could have been made to happen.......though I (and just about all of us I guess) can see why it's not been possible.
Are Sheffield Wednesday laying on special travel arrangements for the 5000 they're taking to Colchester, or the 2,000 they're taking to Brentford?
Do Carlisle charter a train everytime their fans have to travel down to London?
We're spoiled at Charlton - season tickets must be amongst the cheapest in the country, for the last 20-odd years we've had a forward-thinking boardroom that bends over backwards to communicate with supporters and comes up with initiatives like Valley Express to help fill the ground, still people moan though.
If you want to go to Carlisle then follow the example of the 800 who've already booked up for it and stump up the cash and go. If, for whatever reason, you can't do that, don't moan that the club hasn't made arrangements for you to be teleported up there at a subsidised rate - it's your responsibility, not the club's.
Absolutely spot on. A lot of our support simply can't be bothered with the distance and therefore just sit back and hope the club will spoonfeed them a solution.
All this and that about cost of trains etc etc. Rubbish. Every other club in our position would be selling that place out in no time.
Are Sheffield Wednesday laying on special travel arrangements for the 5000 they're taking to Colchester, or the 2,000 they're taking to Brentford?
Do Carlisle charter a train everytime their fans have to travel down to London?
We're spoiled at Charlton - season tickets must be amongst the cheapest in the country, for the last 20-odd years we've had a forward-thinking boardroom that bends over backwards to communicate with supporters and comes up with initiatives like Valley Express to help fill the ground, still people moan though.
If you want to go to Carlisle then follow the example of the 800 who've already booked up for it and stump up the cash and go. If, for whatever reason, you can't do that, don't moan that the club hasn't made arrangements for you to be teleported up there at a subsidised rate - it's your responsibility, not the club's.
Mr Largo It's all about opinions and the only way you can grow is by listening to you fanbase or clients. Would Carlisle put on a train? Who knows if they were in our position, have Sheffield made special travel arrangements? Maybe they put on more than three coaches to get there fans to the game. And finally, yes i am going to the game, and as and when the club has done free travel in the past i have never taken advantage of it as i would rather go by train or car, however there are fans that are less able to do so or may not have the resources to do so. I don't think this is a moan its an opinion and one which the club could learn from.
Especially when there is demand for 3 and a half coaches....
Sheff Wed are taking 5000 to Colchester because they have a passionate fan base who are giving everything to see their team promoted. Both Sheffield clubs are taking thousands everywhere at the moment and winning, who knows if we had taken 2-3000 to Huddersfield whether it might have made the difference.
The players must feel sick running out to a few hundred fans and a few hundred more empty seats.
Yes its a long way and a lot of money, but every other club and fans are in the same boat
Especially when there is demand for 3 and a half coaches....
Sheff Wed are taking 5000 to Colchester because they have a passionate fan base who are giving everything to see their team promoted. Both Sheffield clubs are taking thousands everywhere at the moment and winning, who knows if we had taken 2-3000 to Huddersfield whether it might have made the difference.
The players must feel sick running out to a few hundred fans and a few hundred more empty seats.
Yes its a long way and a lot of money, but every other club and fans are in the same boat
away support is somthing the club does need to address although correct me if im wrong we dont earn anything from away games do we? take next season in the championship, middlesbrough or hull away on a saturday will be amazed if we took 500+. London clubs on the whole dont seem to travel in large numbers unlike northen teams, unless chelsea are playing man utd you will often see empty seats in the away end. Its a london thing not just a charlton thing.
Especially when there is demand for 3 and a half coaches....
Sheff Wed are taking 5000 to Colchester because they have a passionate fan base who are giving everything to see their team promoted. Both Sheffield clubs are taking thousands everywhere at the moment and winning, who knows if we had taken 2-3000 to Huddersfield whether it might have made the difference.
The players must feel sick running out to a few hundred fans and a few hundred more empty seats.
Yes its a long way and a lot of money, but every other club and fans are in the same boat
I think QPR took 8k to Wednesday to see them secure promotion, similar with palace. How many will we take to Preston? mmmm....
Is James Beasleyy not the idiot who was spouting rubbish after the racist chanting arrests a couple of months back?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy It's been apparent for a few weeks that Wednesday's game against Colchester would be important - Wednesday are able to commit to taking plenty of coaches knowing that their fans will turn out in force. It's also been apparent for a few weeks that Charlton's game at Carlisle would be important - Charlton can't commit to booking plenty of coaches though, because it's only since it's become apparent that we could go up at Carlisle that interest in the game has increased. If there wasn't a possibility of going up then we'd be taking the same small number of diehards who managed to somehow get themselves al the way to Oldham, Hartlepool, Chesterfield et al without any assistance from the club whatsoever.
@SoundAsa£ Don't missquote what I've written. "As for you suggesting folk can somehow 'afford' to travel all the way to Carlisle without subsidised fares....there's an almighty recession going on out there...or hadn't you noticed?" I didn't say that.
By the way, is this "almight recession" localised to South East London?
I can easily deal with the "the coach should have ordered more than three coaches". The fact is we could and would have put on 20 coaches yesterday if the demand was there. We put on as many as needed. In this case, the third coach filled up on Wednesday afternoon. There were about 16 places sold during the whole of Wednesday. We then started a waiting list, which had four people on it overnight.
We then have to look at the likelihood of getting a reasonable take-up on a fourth coach on Thursday and Friday, as no one would sensibly put it on for a half a dozen people. Normally it would be an open and shut case for a trip like Carlisle because in general people do not book late for these long trips, but in the circumstances we looked hard at it and eventually decided that as people had had all day Tuesday and most of Wednesday to book and the numbers who had were so small we wouldn't do it.
Going back to the train, I don't regret putting it on here because if we were going to do it we had to create awareness over the weekend and let people know that option might become available. After the weekend there was no time to gauge demand because we had got exceptional agreement for the company to put a bid in for track access to Network Rail on the Tuesday morning. No further extension was available. The fact that people on here had said they would use it was useful feedback - and better than the none at all we would have had if we had kept the plan secret.
The decision about the train was made by the full board around the Walsall game and it was never the case that this or that outcome to the weekend games would lead to it running or not. It was their call and they made it, based on the facts as they saw them. Our job (Mick Everett's and mine) was to give them the option, which we did.
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It's all at too late notice....I think if we'd had a bit more time then the club might have considered it.....last week-ends results not withstanding.
As for you suggesting folk can somehow 'afford' to travel all the way to Carlisle without subsidised fares....there's an almighty recession going on out there...or hadn't you noticed?
It would have been really nice for many fans who are finding things extremley tough at present to have taken up a subsidised fare offer.
No one is saying it's the clubs duty or responsibility, but it would have been terrific if it could have been made to happen.......though I (and just about all of us I guess) can see why it's not been possible.
All this and that about cost of trains etc etc. Rubbish. Every other club in our position would be selling that place out in no time.
Sheff Wed are taking 5000 to Colchester because they have a passionate fan base who are giving everything to see their team promoted. Both Sheffield clubs are taking thousands everywhere at the moment and winning, who knows if we had taken 2-3000 to Huddersfield whether it might have made the difference.
The players must feel sick running out to a few hundred fans and a few hundred more empty seats.
Yes its a long way and a lot of money, but every other club and fans are in the same boat
They should have hired out the Orient Express and issued everyone with Operation Choo Choo t-shirts.
After all how many times have you wanted to do this journey in the last five years?
Guarantee you he wouldn't make them comments to someones face!
@WhenIwasLittleBoy
It's been apparent for a few weeks that Wednesday's game against Colchester would be important - Wednesday are able to commit to taking plenty of coaches knowing that their fans will turn out in force.
It's also been apparent for a few weeks that Charlton's game at Carlisle would be important - Charlton can't commit to booking plenty of coaches though, because it's only since it's become apparent that we could go up at Carlisle that interest in the game has increased. If there wasn't a possibility of going up then we'd be taking the same small number of diehards who managed to somehow get themselves al the way to Oldham, Hartlepool, Chesterfield et al without any assistance from the club whatsoever.
@SoundAsa£
Don't missquote what I've written. "As for you suggesting folk can somehow 'afford' to travel all the way to Carlisle without subsidised fares....there's an almighty recession going on out there...or hadn't you noticed?"
I didn't say that.
By the way, is this "almight recession" localised to South East London?
We then have to look at the likelihood of getting a reasonable take-up on a fourth coach on Thursday and Friday, as no one would sensibly put it on for a half a dozen people. Normally it would be an open and shut case for a trip like Carlisle because in general people do not book late for these long trips, but in the circumstances we looked hard at it and eventually decided that as people had had all day Tuesday and most of Wednesday to book and the numbers who had were so small we wouldn't do it.
Going back to the train, I don't regret putting it on here because if we were going to do it we had to create awareness over the weekend and let people know that option might become available. After the weekend there was no time to gauge demand because we had got exceptional agreement for the company to put a bid in for track access to Network Rail on the Tuesday morning. No further extension was available. The fact that people on here had said they would use it was useful feedback - and better than the none at all we would have had if we had kept the plan secret.
The decision about the train was made by the full board around the Walsall game and it was never the case that this or that outcome to the weekend games would lead to it running or not. It was their call and they made it, based on the facts as they saw them. Our job (Mick Everett's and mine) was to give them the option, which we did.
no train journey in 2012 should take 12-14 hrs in a country as small as ours
either stop the trains running or find an easier way of making that Journey i mean where the hell does the train go in 14 hrs
You have to change at Birmingham New Street, wait for an hour then change at Northampton at 12 and wait for 6 hours!
if not i have bought Roids to inject in my eye ball