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Are you justified?

edited March 2012 in General Charlton
Before anyone moans, this is not a dig at anyones decision, as you're all entitled to come and go as you please.

Just wondering if anyone on here left the Notts Co game at half-time and reasons for doing so. I saw many around me in the north-upper get up and walk out when the 4th goal went in (maybe some only went to the barfor a stiff drink?) but noticed many of the seats around me at the re-start we no longer occupied, so assumed they'd had enough and left.

Don't get me wrong, I was mighty pissed off at that point and knew that staying I was not going to witness the mother of all come-backs (although for a brief moment when we got our 2nd I felt a surge of belief, like when your first 3 numbers get pulled out on the lottery draw, only to be let down by the remaining balls).
But how I figured it was that at that moment in time, our team needed us more than ever this season to get behind them and to their credit the upper tier never stopped singing throughout. It's great to sing songs when we're winning but for some strange reason it felt much more personal and meaningful when the game was in all tense lost. I'm proud of the majority of our support and will continue to be so. You can't enjoy a rollercoaster ride fully if you don't experience the lows as well as the highs.

So why do people leave only halfway into a game? Is it because they're only interested when we're winning? Are they only fair-weather supporters who just have a passing interest in charlton? I for one don't know the answers so maybe anyone who did leave can answer this?.............................................
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    I for one didn't, but have seen a post or two on here by people who did. (This is my first post btw, but I've been reading since the first of this season)

    I would like to say I agree 100% with you, and also note that after those seats were empty.. I felt the atmosphere was absolutely brilliant. I didn't see any negativity, heard no booing and was actually really enjoying the game despite the obvious scoreline. I noticed similar in the Colchester game though - when the early leavers left, I even heard someone yell "F*cking hell - where's the negativity gone?!" - just as the choruses of "Colchester, Who Gives a F*..." started, and the mood seemed to pick up again... despite the circumstances.

    It was only Tuesday night that Solly said on twitter that the supporters need to get behind them today to enable them to put the Colchester game to rest - whether or not that's reasonable for a player to ask after having just lost a game - it does prove that the supporters are indeed the 12 man.

    As a supporter you need to take the good with the bad, and support the team - and that requires a degree of dedication and loyalty. Unfortunately, this wasn't demonstrated today by a minority - and those who remained did seem to vent their feelings at those leaving; and honestly? I tend to think they were right to.
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    Would love to know how they spent their extra 45 minutes
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    Would love to know how they spent their extra 45 minutes
    I would hazard a guess, in the pub/club?
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    I think lot got up and went to the bar. I was one of them and in the second half i went with my kids to sit in the lower north ( as we usually do) . I didn't see anyone leaving the ground.
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    i thought the support was terrific, second half , all things considered and they are rare words coming from me where our support is concerned
    most of the time we're just small in numbers where the passion flows out in vocal support of the team
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    People did leave, and I know. I didn't get there till half-time.
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    I've got no problem with shouting my disapproval just not by booing. Leaving that early is pathetic when we're top of the league
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    edited March 2012
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    You pays ya money.....
    If that is how people feel and are not enjoying the match, its up to them.
    £25 for 3rd division football being 0-4 down and being totally out played for much of the half I can understand the need to get home rapid.
    I didnt go yesterday, I other things to do. Turns out I made the correct decision and saved some money.
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    If we'd continued the second half in the same vain as the first, I probably wouldn't have lasted beyond an hour. I don't think it's a question of loyalty, it just pains me hugely seeing us torn apart and not something I really want to witness.
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    If you pay your money you can do whatever you want, leave early/boo scream abuse.
    I rarely agreeing with booing, however i don't knock anybody who did boo at h/t yesterday, but atleast the majority of people clapped them off at the end.
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    I'm spartacus!!
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    I blame the fans.
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    i thought the support was terrific, second half , all things considered and they are rare words coming from me where our support is concerned
    most of the time we're just small in numbers where the passion flows out in vocal support of the team
    Who are you, and what have you done with ohhahh?

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    I think lot got up and went to the bar. I was one of them and in the second half i went with my kids to sit in the lower north ( as we usually do) . I didn't see anyone leaving the ground.
    I moved seat at half time mainly to get away from the fella sat next to me whose every other word was F**k. Not to mention the fight in the NWQ at the end of the first half...disgraceful behaviour
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    I left after the fourth goal as I was just so angry in disbelief at what was going on it was probably best for me not to be in the ground. The last times I left like that were Millwall and Blackpool away and it is not something I make a habit of. I simply could not believe the lack of application and common sense I was watching from the majority of our team and was so frustrated. H and G above has probably summed up my sentiments. I literally felt as if I could not watch it anymore and therefore wasn't going to. It was probably a rash decision but I don't feel like a glory fan or a plastic for doing it. Top of the league or not we have not actually won anything yet and that first half was absolutely dire however well we have played this season.

    Happy to have my support questioned... i'll see some of those who do at scunthorpe, huddersfield, oldham, carlisle and preston I'm sure.
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    The 15 or so who left near me in the Upper North were a bunch of pricks when they were there and it was far better when they went. The only songs that one of them was interested in singing were:
    "We're shit and we know we are" and "we might as well go home"...interspersed with booing after each goal and getting on the players backs from the first minute.
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    The support in the 2nd half was quite good, but then the team played much better and scored twice in the 1st 10 minutes, to give us hope. If County, on the other hand, had scored again to make it 5-0 a lot more people may have left early...
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    I did leave at half time having a right sulk up! but after everything the team has done this season I have mugged myself by doing that. Shocking behaviour and I apologise. COME ON CHARLTON!!! minor blip.
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    People went to get beers. People always go to get beers because of the massive queues. I really didn't notice we had less people in the second half and can't really understand why people made a big fuss about something that happens every week.
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    I did leave at half time having a right sulk up! but after everything the team has done this season I have mugged myself by doing that. Shocking behaviour and I apologise. COME ON CHARLTON!!! minor blip.
    Its takes a man Tom!
    Top Post!
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    People did leave, and I know. I didn't get there till half-time.
    Did you bump into Ade Edmundson at 3pm?
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    I posted this on the Post Game thread


    Elthamaddick said:

    First half was simply embarrassing, no idea what the second one was like as we left at HT....

    Move on



    Agree with your first point, but I cant understand why you would leave at HT? The boys needed all the support they could get yesterday, and in the second they got it as well. Yes the team had a shocker but after all the success (so far this season) that they have served up to us, we owe them our support when it doesn't go the teams way!!
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    If you pay your money you can do whatever you want, leave early/boo scream abuse.
    I rarely agreeing with booing, however i don't knock anybody who did boo at h/t yesterday, but atleast the majority of people clapped them off at the end.
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    I left at half-time, I found myself getting seriously angry and I was the closest I ever sat to Powell & co - I didn't want to scream abuse at the defense if it got to 5 or 6 (it looked that way at the time). I also had to develop film and was gagging for a cigarette. For those reasons I was out, however I was angry with myself as soon as I made it on to Floyd Road. Not the team's finest day, nor was it mine as a supporter.
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    I posted this on the Post Game thread


    Elthamaddick said:

    First half was simply embarrassing, no idea what the second one was like as we left at HT....

    Move on



    Agree with your first point, but I cant understand why you would leave at HT? The boys needed all the support they could get yesterday, and in the second they got it as well. Yes the team had a shocker but after all the success (so far this season) that they have served up to us, we owe them our support when it doesn't go the teams way!!
    Sorry I disagree that we as supporters owe the team anything. People spend thousands and thousands of pounds on football every season out of pride loyalty interest entertainment blind faith or whatever. They earn the right to do what they want.
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    edited March 2012
    People pay to get in so they're well within their right to leave early regardless what a few people on an internet forum think. Spoke to someone who left early yesterday who has supported the club for about 50 years, Try tell him he's not a proper fan etc.
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    I don't understand why people leave early. You pay your money knowing full well you could win 5-0 or get tonked 30-0. That's football. Arsenal lost 8-2 to United and Untied lost 6-1 to City. We've been lucky that up til last week we haven't had to see a loss at The Valley all season, so while people can feel free to leave whenever they want they just look daft for doing it. If you haven't got the balls to face up to a loss then don't bother wasting your money on a ticket is my view. A particular highlight for me was watching all the grumblers depart 5 minutes early against Bury, moaning about how crap we were, only to miss Dale's goal of the season candidate getting us a draw. The timing of it made the match feel like a win so I gurantee I had a better time than the bitter crowd who got a headstart on the traffic
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    I can't understand it either. I've never done it, and it doesn't even require restraint to not want to go. Even when we lost 6-1 to Leeds I stayed til the end.
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    I don't understand why people leave early. You pay your money knowing full well you could win 5-0 or get tonked 30-0. That's football. Arsenal lost 8-2 to United and Untied lost 6-1 to City. We've been lucky that up til last week we haven't had to see a loss at The Valley all season
    I think there is a huge difference between losing and being 4-0 down at half time. People seem to have short memories, just 2 months ago we had the best fans in football because we all stayed and clapped our way through the loss at Fulham. Id say its not the loss or going behind which is an issue... more the way it happens.
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