Simon Cox top scorer 09 - went to west brom and done nothing. Jason Scotland top scorer 08 - west to wigan and done nothing. Billy Sharp top scorer in 07 - went to sheff utd and done nothing.
Surely you can't bank on Rhodes being a massive hit in the prem. I totally admit he is a good player but I really can't see why he'd fail to be attracted by joining Charlton.
Fair comments admittedly however Jordan Rhodes has classy touches, all sorts of finishes and is definitely streets above League 1
If a Prem club spent £3-4m on him it's hardly an incredible amount of money and the potential is worth the risk.
Some lad called Darren Bent didn't do too badly with the step up......
Maybe one of the prem sides coming down, bolton or west brom e.t.c then?
Still think he'd be worth a try atleast!
West Brom coming down? ... they are having their best season for ages, Uncle is proving to be the ideal manager for them
My bad - meant wolves.
lol, poor old Wolves are diving faster than a kamikaze pilot, Molineux is a good trip though, lovely ground
As kids we played a school from wolverhampton and they took us to Molineux. You can imagine there faces when on the return trip we took them to kenilworth road . To say we got the best part of that deal is an understatement lol
Given that he was pretty anonymous when he played at the Valley I'm not sure that he would be worth that much in the Championship or higher. A bit of a flat track bully?
Love that every thread is beginning "i know I'm jumping the gun, but if we go up ,..." - the Charlton way!
Re: Rhodes, we don't really know how ambitious the board are with their vision of where they want Charlton to be. If our scouts/SCP see Rhodes as a special talent, a difference maker, who knows...
When we were in the Prem would we have got excited about signing this guy. Don't think so.
I think the common cry would be "Why are we looking in the lower leagues?"
Perspective is a funny thing, hard when your down trying to imagine what the view looks like from up there.
If Wigan go down I could see them trying to sign him. Like we did with wassisname.
Iwelumo.
Yeah, I doubt your average Gooner/Manure/Liverpool fan is salivating over this guy like we are. If any of them even bother to look at a lower league player. Saying that I don't think spanking £3 million plus on one player is in keeping with this board's tactics. More likely to spend that much on 2 or 3 players.
If people think we have any chance of signing him, it is just as likely that he'll stay with Huddersfield if they go up.
I don't think Huddersfield will be going up and suspect that when/if they don't, the owner will try and get back some of his money .. he gave Clark quite a few quid, with as yet no return.
Surely if we were to go up and Huddersfield were to miss out on promotion we could look at signing him? Like brighton did last year with Craig Mckail-Smith from Peterborough when they went up. Maybe a big bid would be sufficient and they can take Hayes in p/e for another season in League One?
And where do you think we would get 5 million from?
Simon Cox top scorer 09 - went to west brom and done nothing. Jason Scotland top scorer 08 - west to wigan and done nothing. Billy Sharp top scorer in 07 - went to sheff utd and done nothing.
Surely you can't bank on Rhodes being a massive hit in the prem. I totally admit he is a good player but I really can't see why he'd fail to be attracted by joining Charlton.
Fair comments admittedly however Jordan Rhodes has classy touches, all sorts of finishes and is definitely streets above League 1
If a Prem club spent £3-4m on him it's hardly an incredible amount of money and the potential is worth the risk.
Some lad called Darren Bent didn't do too badly with the step up......
To be fair Darren Bent had scored 48 goals in 122 appearances in the Premier League and the First Division when we signed him, and it was not a foregone conclusion that he would make it.
Jordan Rhodes has only scored one goal above the third tier.
I'm not saying he won't make it as he is clearly talented, but there is a massive difference between their respective stats. Some players can make a jump up, but two divisions is very different than one.
2006–2009 Ipswich Town 10 (1) 2007 → Oxford United (loan) 4 (0) 2008 → Rochdale (loan) 5 (2) 2009 → Brentford (loan) 14 (7) 2009– Huddersfield Town 111 (65)
That's 144 games with 75 Goals = 0.52 goals a game
Not bad IMO
Bent
2001–2005 Ipswich Town 122 (48) 2005–2007 Charlton Athletic 68 (31) 2007–2009 Tottenham 60 (18) 2009–2011 Sunderland 58 (32) 2011– Aston Villa 38 (18)
346 games 147 Goals = 0.42 goals a game
Obviously all at different levels but when you think how young Rhodes is... The future is bright for him.
Nobody said he was terrible he obviously has a good future. Huge difference is Bent had Premiership and European experience when we signed him. Rhodes has only ever scored 1 goal outside league 1 which was ironicaly on loan to Ipswich ... 1 goal in 10 games
BTW, to make Bents stats valid, you need to use the info from before he signed for us.... not from 2 seasons sat on spurs bench
Six goals in seven for (poor) Scottish U21s - surely a higher level than League One?
I seriously doubt it. Three of those goals came against Luxenbourg U21s and two against Austria U21s. I'd be amazed if either of those nations could pick a team of players twenty or under that could hold their own in League one?
I'm also sure that for every Darren Bent I could find half a dozen players that made the leap up and failed miserably. Again I'll say that I think Rhodes is a good (very good) player. However, the fact that there is any doubt at all, means that he could well be a gamble too far for a team that could bring in a foreign player that is five years older, for half the money, who has a proven track record. That is why I don't, personally, see him signing for a Premier League club for c. £5m with all the associated costs and wages that go with it.
2006–2009 Ipswich Town 10 (1) 2007 → Oxford United (loan) 4 (0) 2008 → Rochdale (loan) 5 (2) 2009 → Brentford (loan) 14 (7) 2009– Huddersfield Town 111 (65)
That's 144 games with 75 Goals = 0.52 goals a game
Not bad IMO
Bent
2001–2005 Ipswich Town 122 (48) 2005–2007 Charlton Athletic 68 (31) 2007–2009 Tottenham 60 (18) 2009–2011 Sunderland 58 (32) 2011– Aston Villa 38 (18)
346 games 147 Goals = 0.42 goals a game
Obviously all at different levels but when you think how young Rhodes is... The future is bright for him.
Nobody said he was terrible he obviously has a good future. Huge difference is Bent had Premiership and European experience when we signed him. Rhodes has only ever scored 1 goal outside league 1 which was ironicaly on loan to Ipswich ... 1 goal in 10 games
BTW, to make Bents stats valid, you need to use the info from before he signed for us.... not from 2 seasons sat on spurs bench
Rhodes wasn't on loan to Ipswich, thats where he started, well after Barnsley. It's also a bit of an exaggeration to say that Bent had premiership and European experience, as he only played a handful of games. Bent was signed purely on his record in the championship, and made the step up as we know
Rhodes wasn't on loan to Ipswich, thats where he started, well after Barnsley. It's also a bit of an exaggeration to say that Bent had premiership and European experience, as he only played a handful of games. Bent was signed purely on his record in the championship, and made the step up as we know
Bent had more premiership and European experience when we signed him, than Rhoodes has Championship. Bent was also a proven scorer in the championship... 18,16 and 20 goals each season. I have no doubt Rhodes is a quality player, but for me it is too much of a gamble for club. Anyway, if Roy Keane was not so clueless, Rhodes would still be at Ipswich and we'd know just how good he really is
Rhodes wasn't on loan to Ipswich, thats where he started, well after Barnsley. It's also a bit of an exaggeration to say that Bent had premiership and European experience, as he only played a handful of games. Bent was signed purely on his record in the championship, and made the step up as we know
Bent had more premiership and European experience when we signed him, than Rhoodes has Championship. Bent was also a proven scorer in the championship... 18,16 and 20 goals each season. I have no doubt Rhodes is a quality player, but for me it is too much of a gamble for club. Anyway, if Roy Keane was not so clueless, Rhodes would still be at Ipswich and we'd know just how good he really is
Yer Bent was only signed due to his record in the championship though, his handful of games in the prem and uefa wouldnt have made a difference. Rhodes is clearly a class player, I'm not disagreeing though, I don't think we should spend our entire budget on him, will be interesting to see how he does though. I have a Liverpool mate who wants to sign him
I really can't see Rhodes going to the prem. I reckon he's off to a top 6 championship club. I think with a bit of money behind us that could quite easily be us. Sure league 1 was stronger last year but you can only beat whats infront of you and we have a better points/game ratio that Brighton & Southampton had so I see no reason why he wouldn't join us
I don't know how/why people are thinking we have a chance to buy this fella, please tell me where we are going to rustle up 5 million for him and whatever wages.
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If a Prem club spent £3-4m on him it's hardly an incredible amount of money and the potential is worth the risk.
Some lad called Darren Bent didn't do too badly with the step up......
As kids we played a school from wolverhampton and they took us to Molineux. You can imagine there faces when on the return trip we took them to kenilworth road
Re: Rhodes, we don't really know how ambitious the board are with their vision of where they want Charlton to be. If our scouts/SCP see Rhodes as a special talent, a difference maker, who knows...
Stranger things have happened.
When Beckford was at Leeds, the games/goals stats may add up, but the chances he missed...
I think the common cry would be "Why are we looking in the lower leagues?"
Perspective is a funny thing, hard when your down trying to imagine what the view looks like from up there.
If Wigan go down I could see them trying to sign him. Like we did with wassisname.
Iwelumo.
Saying that I don't think spanking £3 million plus on one player is in keeping with this board's tactics.
More likely to spend that much on 2 or 3 players.
I don't think Huddersfield will be going up and suspect that when/if they don't, the owner will try and get back some of his money .. he gave Clark quite a few quid, with as yet no return.
Jordan Rhodes has only scored one goal above the third tier.
I'm not saying he won't make it as he is clearly talented, but there is a massive difference between their respective stats. Some players can make a jump up, but two divisions is very different than one.
2006–2009 Ipswich Town 10 (1)
2007 → Oxford United (loan) 4 (0)
2008 → Rochdale (loan) 5 (2)
2009 → Brentford (loan) 14 (7)
2009– Huddersfield Town 111 (65)
That's 144 games with 75 Goals = 0.52 goals a game
Not bad IMO
BWP
2004–2006 Manchester City 32 (2)
2006–2009 Southampton 111 (22)
2009–2011 Plymouth Argyle 32 (17)
2011– Charlton Athletic 54 (26)
229 games 69 goals = 0.31 goals a game
Bent
2001–2005 Ipswich Town 122 (48)
2005–2007 Charlton Athletic 68 (31)
2007–2009 Tottenham 60 (18)
2009–2011 Sunderland 58 (32)
2011– Aston Villa 38 (18)
346 games 147 Goals = 0.42 goals a game
Obviously all at different levels but when you think how young Rhodes is... The future is bright for him.
BTW, to make Bents stats valid, you need to use the info from before he signed for us.... not from 2 seasons sat on spurs bench
I'm also sure that for every Darren Bent I could find half a dozen players that made the leap up and failed miserably. Again I'll say that I think Rhodes is a good (very good) player. However, the fact that there is any doubt at all, means that he could well be a gamble too far for a team that could bring in a foreign player that is five years older, for half the money, who has a proven track record. That is why I don't, personally, see him signing for a Premier League club for c. £5m with all the associated costs and wages that go with it.
Rhodes wasn't on loan to Ipswich, thats where he started, well after Barnsley. It's also a bit of an exaggeration to say that Bent had premiership and European experience, as he only played a handful of games. Bent was signed purely on his record in the championship, and made the step up as we know
Bent had more premiership and European experience when we signed him, than Rhoodes has Championship. Bent was also a proven scorer in the championship... 18,16 and 20 goals each season. I have no doubt Rhodes is a quality player, but for me it is too much of a gamble for club. Anyway, if Roy Keane was not so clueless, Rhodes would still be at Ipswich and we'd know just how good he really is
Bent had more premiership and European experience when we signed him, than Rhoodes has Championship. Bent was also a proven scorer in the championship... 18,16 and 20 goals each season. I have no doubt Rhodes is a quality player, but for me it is too much of a gamble for club. Anyway, if Roy Keane was not so clueless, Rhodes would still be at Ipswich and we'd know just how good he really is
Yer Bent was only signed due to his record in the championship though, his handful of games in the prem and uefa wouldnt have made a difference. Rhodes is clearly a class player, I'm not disagreeing though, I don't think we should spend our entire budget on him, will be interesting to see how he does though. I have a Liverpool mate who wants to sign him