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Timewasting

lordromfordlordromford
edited October 2011 in General Charlton
It occurs to me that, although we all hate it when teams come to The Valley and try to hold onto what they've got by timewasting, I reckon if I was a Tranmere fan, I'd be pretty annoyed with my own team after today: We weren't in that game in the first half and we never looked even remotely like getting anything out of it until Tranmere started wasting time and let us back in. I think it's pretty likely we would have lost that if they hadn't adopted this most negative of tactics. Also, I'm pretty sure we're as guilty as any other team when we want to hang on to a scoreline. So all in all, their timewasting should have annoyed both sets of fans aswell as neutrals, by ruining the spectacle that is the match itself.

I really do think there should be harsher punishments for timewasting and a good start would be to book keepers (who are the worst culprits) without warning. The system is so flawed at the moment, because keepers continually waste time until they're given a warning (like today), then sometimes continue further until they EVENTUALLY get a yellow (unlike today), after which time, they've successfully wasted a large portion of the match, with minimal punishment, as keepers are so rarely booked for anything else and are therefore unlikely to be sent off.

It's anti-football, it's often counter-productive and it's just plain wrong.



(Apologies for the rant, but that REALLY annoyed me today!)
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  • PlaaayerPlaaayer
    Ref should have booked the keeper straight off rather than taking to him about it, thus wasting more time and it would have stopped him from doing it!

    The ref seemed to have no grip on the game whatsoever!
  • BigRedEvilBigRedEvil
    It's so tedious to constantly keep watching it take 4 or 5 people just to get the ball back to take a throw in.

    Ref didn't help with it today by letting it happen
  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    Can't blame players for doing it and it had nothing to do with the penalty decision so hardly affected the game in a negative way for Tranmere.  Needs a better ref rather than one who wasted as much (if not more) time than Tranmere did without ever booking anyone.   
  • GreenWithEnvyGreenWithEnvy
    Towards the end when Hollands placed the ball for the goal kick on the spot where the keeper had been kicking for the entire match and then he goes and shuffles it to the other side of the goal, that piece of time wasting annoyed me.

    Perhaps I should take my pills now.
  • lordromfordlordromford
    Can't blame players for doing it and it had nothing to do with the penalty decision so hardly affected the game in a negative way for Tranmere.  Needs a better ref rather than one who wasted as much (if not more) time than Tranmere did without ever booking anyone.   
    You're right about the penalty in isolation, but my point was that we weren't threatening in any way until they let us back in by timewasting. We had more of a grip on the game in the second half because of it and therefore spent time in their box etc. The penalty was (indirectly, I grant you) a result of that. Anyway, if they had continued playing as they did in the first half, I wouldn't have been surprised if they had scored a second, rendering our penno irrelevant. 
  • Addickted4lifeAddickted4life
    how did their keeper not get booked for time wasting? After a warning your supposed to book them.
  • CatAddickCatAddick
    Especially the farce around the penalty. Arguing, standing inside the box and then the keeper picking up the ball and walking off with it..... I reckon the whole 5 minutes added time must have been wasted on that one incident
  • Addickted4lifeAddickted4life
    Also Tranmere constantly kicked the ball away and no punishment was given,
  • UboatUboat
    Let's be honest, who is opposed to timewasting when it's us hanging onto a one goal lead in the dying moments of a game?  I accept that the goalie was doing it for over three quarters of an hour, but the principle is the same.
  • LardyLardy
    Time wasting today did my head in.

    As soon as the 2nd half kicked off you knew they were going to waste waste waste.

    I agree that the tranmere fans should be pd off as when they were pressing we had trouble.

    Not to mention the foul near the end of the 2nd half which our man rode. only to be sithed down by the tranmere player on the floor. Did i halucinate or did this happen and the guy not get a booking?
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  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    They did exactly the same last year. If Tranmere were playing in my back garden i wouldn't bother opening the curtains. Having said that it's pretty affective.
  • CatAddickCatAddick
    It was frustrating because the ref was too weak to do anything about it. He gave their keeper a long lecture near the beginning of the second half and then never followed through with it
  • NumbersNumbers
    They started it at the end of the first half, thank god they didn't get the 3 points
  • UboatUboat
    edited October 2011
      If Tranmere were playing in my back garden i wouldn't bother opening the curtains.
    I would. Then I'd tell them tell them to get out of my garden.
  • Vinnie V.Vinnie V.
    Time wasting today did my head in.

    As soon as the 2nd half kicked off you knew they were going to waste waste waste.

    I agree that the tranmere fans should be pd off as when they were pressing we had trouble.

    Not to mention the foul near the end of the 2nd half which our man rode. only to be sithed down by the tranmere player on the floor. Did i halucinate or did this happen and the guy not get a booking?
    Looked like astraight red from where i was.  Also how do you not get sent off for pushing the Ref in the chest?
  • StigStig
    Seen it before, though perhaps not as blatant as today.  It strikes me that refs are too scared to do anything about it.  If they go for an early booking and the keeper later gets sent off they'll get the blame for altering the course of the game.  To my mind though, that's exactly what needs to happen.  Until refs get tough, every paying spectator will continue to get conned out of their money.  We didn't get a full game today, and the game that we did get was never allowed to flow.  

    As for Tranmere, they are nothing but a dire bunch of Northern cloggers.  Forget the excuses about ticket and coach prices, the reason no-one comes to watch them is because they are so mind-numbingly negative and boring.  I hope for their fans' sake they play a bit more football up at Prenton Park, but I can't help but doubt it.  
  • RedvalleyeastRedvalleyeast
    The Tranmere players behaviour before the penalty was taken was unbelievable,ive never seen anything like it. The arguing with the ref,the niggly little nudges on JJ and the worst bit,when the keeper picked the ball up after JJ had placed it on the spot. The ref could quite easily have dealt with it earlier by booking the keeper for constant timewasting,maybe then they wouldve thought twice before carrying on in the way they did. Horrible side and gutted they got anything from the game :(
  • AdTheAddicKAdTheAddicK
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
  • ljm29ljm29
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
    Its a football match. Thats what happens at football. Maybe take them to the ballet instead
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  • JaShea99JaShea99
    I wanted to make a topic after the Brentford game about 'kicking the ball away' but didn't think it was worthy of its own topic. Anyway since you've brought this up I have wondered for a while and the Brentford game made me think about it even more, what constitutes kicking the ball away? Because you see players get booked for it quite often when they give the ball a particularly aggressive kick or they send it in the opposite direction of where the free kick should be placed after a foul. Yet if you watch a game you see players doing it all the time but they get away with it because it doesn't seem that bad. Surely kicking the ball in any direction other than where the dead ball should be placed is 'kicking the ball away' and deserves punishment (not necessarily a card). It's so frustrating to watch and can be a major way of timewasting accumulated over a whole game.
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    edited October 2011
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
    Its a football match. Thats what happens at football. Maybe take them to the ballet instead
    Yeah thanks for that.  If we all took that moronic advice then Charlton wouldn't have a future.
  • Vinnie V.Vinnie V.
    edited October 2011

    While i see your point. You're never gonna remove that element from the game and personally i wouldn't want to.

     

    Plus you have to admit. He was. ;)

  • AdTheAddicKAdTheAddicK
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
    Its a football match. Thats what happens at football. Maybe take them to the ballet instead
    Yeah thanks for that.  If we all took that moronic advice then Charlton wouldn't have a future.
    To be honest you must expect some swearing at a Football match ! It's a passionate sport !
  • StigStig
    edited October 2011
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
    Its a football match. Thats what happens at football. Maybe take them to the ballet instead
    Oh dear.  Anything goes 'cos it's blokey blokey football.  No-one needs to take any responsibility for their behaviour because someone's kicking a ball about.   
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Sumed my feelings up when the fans were singing , Keeper your a c**t keeper keeper your a c**t !
    What an intelligent chant. Just what i want my 5 and 8 year olds to hear.
    Its a football match. Thats what happens at football. Maybe take them to the ballet instead
    Yeah thanks for that.  If we all took that moronic advice then Charlton wouldn't have a future.
    To be honest you must expect some swearing at a Football match ! It's a passionate sport !
    Dont get me wrong i do and they know not to repeat it but is still don't like my kids to be exposed to it. Not taking them is not an option. They are Charlton fans wether they like it or not!
  • PlaaayerPlaaayer
    Aaaaaaand we're off............
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Aaaaaaand we're off............
    no were not. defused. finished. Kaputt
  • ljm29ljm29
    All friends here
  • AdTheAddicKAdTheAddicK
    I agree with what your saying ! But for some people the emotions take over.
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