Nothing makes any sense to me.
They take over a team handily placed for the play-offs and even the top two.
They then get upset when we lose a couple of games and sack the manager.
Now they decide that the results are not in fact the manager's fault but the players'.
They also decide that results and promotion this season aren't so important afer all.
If they had such a long term view of things at the start, why did they throw their weight around and sack the manager who was after all doing very well with what is now perceived to be such a crap squad.
In my opinion they think they are clever but the evidence is to the contrary (sorry).
Worked for me - I renewed my ticket 5 mins after receiving my letter.
There was never any question of me not renewing, but I felt that proactive marketing campaign deserved recognition. I still have a good feeling about the new owners AND the new manager.
[cite]Posted By: kings hill addick[/cite]DRF Wrote:
Do you really think he gives a piss about what a bunch of keyboard warriors think?
No. But he does care what the current season ticket holders think.
More importantly he cares what they spend.
StillAddickted, The VIPs have an elected rep as you know. Email him on craig_cafc_vip@yahoo.co.uk and tell him what you think. I'm not disgusted but he and the Club should remember those that have already put their money down.
Has you gone and got me muddled with someone else? I don't care that I haven't had a letter. Still got a club and I am now allowed to publicly declare my love for Big Mig without Swisdom chortling. Well happy.
Got my letter from Roy but also got one from Andrew Strauss!
Dear Michael
As you receive this email we'll be preparing for our first training session in Colombo ahead of our quarter-final against Sri Lanka later in the week. I think it's fair to say our journey has been a rollercoaster ride and whilst there's no doubting we could've played better in some of the matches I have been delighted with the fight and determination we've shown throughout the tournament so far.
There's no doubting Sri Lanka will be a tough opponents. They've played well throughout the tournament so far and fully deserve our respect. But, I'm confident they'll come up against a very committed England team that is determined to take this opportunity to claim a place in a World Cup semi-final.
As always your support means everything to us. The following we had throughout the tour to Australia was amazing and we've seen something similar over the past month as we've travelled around South East Asia.
On behalf of the team I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you and hope to see you over the course of the summer.
For me, I needed someone prominent at the club to basically come out and say " we are sh1t and we know we are; but stick with us because we have no intention of letting things stay that way".
It may be obvious and designed to get S/T renewals, but the letter meant something to me.
Now, if Chris Powell can build on the performance last night I might feel able to relax and look forwards with a little more optimism
''in years to come you'll look back with pride in the knowledge that you stuck with the club through thick and thin.''
Well said, Mr Slater. After 45 years of watching , of which probably 30 were choked with disappointment and may be 15 were half-decent, that sentence sums it up for me!
The five-year season-ticket holders should have received a letter and they will.
The club knows the words need to be backed up action, but I can't see how that makes the words a negative in themselves. If there was no letter and the board had said nothing I don't doubt that people would be on here demanding communication and continuing to speculate that there would be no significant investment - as indeed they were until it arrived.
I said before you would hear more and now you have. As you'll appreciate there is a lead time in getting these things out. It's entirely fair to say that you will judge the board by its actions, less so to imply criticism of them for communicating what they can at this stage.
As an aside, the season-ticket income is proportionately more significant the lower down the league you go, which is why the club was able to offer the free season ticket in the Premier League.
I'll be doing my season ticket in the next few days- didn't have the heart to fill in the form after our depressing run (was trying to forget about football) but yesterday has given me the strength of mind to address it.
[cite]Posted By: MuttleyCAFC[/cite]I'll be doing my season ticket in the next few days- didn't have the heart to fill in the form after our depressing run (was trying to forget about football) but yesterday has given me the strength of mind to address it.
i think that letter from the chairman showed real intent to our club, the new owners didn't have to sign so many new players in such a short space of time that they have owned it but they have. i reckon that half the squad will be turfed out by end of season because they have seriously let, not just us down, but them as well and i would be really p*ssed off if i was the owner. the letter shows that progress will be made and i think it will. imagine where we would be if they hadn't come in, administration and then we'd defo be in no mans land league! so like the chairman says, onwards and upwards eh!
[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]The five-year season-ticket holders should have received a letter and they will.
The club knows the words need to be backed up action, but I can't see how that makes the words a negative in themselves. If there was no letter and the board had said nothing I don't doubt that people would be on here demanding communication and continuing to speculate that there would be no significant investment - as indeed they were until it arrived.
I said before you would hear more and now you have. As you'll appreciate there is a lead time in getting these things out. It's entirely fair to say that you will judge the board by its actions, less so to imply criticism of them for communicating what they can at this stage.
As an aside, the season-ticket income is proportionately more significant the lower down the league you go, which is why the club was able to offer the free season ticket in the Premier League.
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]The five-year season-ticket holders should have received a letter and they will.
The club knows the words need to be backed up action, but I can't see how that makes the words a negative in themselves. If there was no letter and the board had said nothing I don't doubt that people would be on here demanding communication and continuing to speculate that there would be no significant investment - as indeed they were until it arrived.
I said before you would hear more and now you have. As you'll appreciate there is a lead time in getting these things out. It's entirely fair to say that you will judge the board by its actions, less so to imply criticism of them for communicating what they can at this stage.
As an aside, the season-ticket income is proportionately more significant the lower down the league you go, which is why the club was able to offer the free season ticket in the Premier League.
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
Apart from the staff changes and the signing of BWP they have bought us a new Big Screen.
I know that's not a lot, but it is better than if they'd not bothered.
[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]The five-year season-ticket holders should have received a letter and they will.
The club knows the words need to be backed up action, but I can't see how that makes the words a negative in themselves. If there was no letter and the board had said nothing I don't doubt that people would be on here demanding communication and continuing to speculate that there would be no significant investment - as indeed they were until it arrived.
I said before you would hear more and now you have. As you'll appreciate there is a lead time in getting these things out. It's entirely fair to say that you will judge the board by its actions, less so to imply criticism of them for communicating what they can at this stage.
As an aside, the season-ticket income is proportionately more significant the lower down the league you go, which is why the club was able to offer the free season ticket in the Premier League.
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
Although everything about a football club screams team and results it in reality is a business like any other. The reason that the team aspect of the business has failed over the last six years is just because the other aspects of the business were failing to generate enough money to invest in the team. If the Chairman feels that the decline in the clubs affairs have stopes I think it only fair that we assume problems of the pitch have successfully been addressed. That visible investment which is the playing side we are told will be made in the summer and you either believe Mr. Slater or not. I for one do believe him and can see nothing negative about this letter at all.
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
I think the distinction as follows: the decline in results may have continued, but it is no longer self-perpetuating. What's been going on over the last four years is that lack of success on the pitch has led to reduced income in ticket and other commercial areas, leading to reduced quality on the pitch and further reduced income. This spiral came to an end in January because the new owners are able to invest in the team with less immediate regard for revenue.
In simple terms, fewer season ticket holders next season will not lead to a weaker playing squad than this season - although of course it may be weaker than it would have been with more season ticket holders. The spiral effect is interrupted by investment, which has begun.
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
I think the distinction as follows: the decline in results may have continued, but it is no longer self-perpetuating. What's been going on over the last four years is that lack of success on the pitch has led to reduced income in ticket and other commercial areas, leading to reduced quality on the pitch and further reduced income. This spiral came to an end in January because the new owners are able to invest in the team with less immediate regard for revenue.
In simple terms, fewer season ticket holders next season will not lead to a weaker playing squad than this season - although of course it may be weaker than it would have been with more season ticket holders. The spiral effect is interrupted by investment, which has begun.
Speaking to someone last night who is not renewing for next season. He says he will be interested in a half year season ticket if they are doing well, can see a few people waiting and doing the same tbh.
I suspect that if the board spo make the investment that they (Slater) is promising, there will be a decent take up of tickets at the end of the summer. If those changes translate into success on the field I think theye will be a lot of interest in those tickets that are available six games in.
As much as many are fed up right now I'm confident that with a better squad and an upturn in results most of the current season tickets holders will renew, they just might not do so right now.
Having said that, I suspect that a fair few will bite the bullet when they think they might be about to lose their regular seat in June or July.
To convince me to renew for next season i need to see the following:- The players trying 100% in every game till the end of the season irrespective of whether they are staying or going.Last night was a start. Significant investment in the squad, Chairman says it is going to happen, i will await developments. Hopefully during the close season i will get my Charlton mojo back as i have sadly lost it. This is the first time since coming back to the Valley that i have questioned whether i should renew or not. Usually when i get the renewal form through the letter box it is filled in and sent back within a day,but this season i have been going as a sense of duty not because i get a buzz from it. Lets hope for a bit of excitement next season.
It is reasonable to be sceptical but the man has communicated an outline plan of the boards' intentions and that has to be a good thing.
The Parkinson dismissal has been done to death (I could provide a 2 page analysis of probably why the decision was made) can we please move on.
I endorse Airman’s' point.
The growth of the club will largely depend on its ability to set the budget for the assembly of next season’s squad in a timely manner. For me the club has scrambled to do so since the days of Pardew. Recently we have barely finalized signings until the final days of the close season, scrambling to bring players in at the last minute and even then leaving significant gaps in the squad until the loan market deadline.
It smacked of desperation, evidencing apparently poor planning and stop gap solutions. The resultant squad preparation for the forthcoming season must have been seriously compromised.
If all of that is behind us then it certainly will be a step in the right direction.
Personally I am reassured by the letter and as dispirited and depressed as I have been over our demise maybe it's just time for all of us to get behind this football club and show the passion - yes genuine non bottle throwing passion that makes this club and its fans the best in South London by a bloody country mile.
[cite]Posted By: JimboCAFC[/cite]No one concerned him calling the club a "viable business", not being funny but I get worried the board talk like that. If i owned a football club I would never refer to it as a business in any form. Liverpool didn't turn out too well when their previous owner ran the club like a business rather then a football club, when they purchased Torres the owners said it will become a good profit in the future. Bit worried to be honest.
I like to see you try to persuade HM Revenue and Customs it's not a business. I'd also like to see your reaction if you got bad service from the commercial centre or the shop, complained and the staff responded that you can't expect normal standards from a football club, because we're not a business, you know!
Football clubs that don't remember they are businesses tend to go out of business - or at least into administration.
[cite]Posted By: JimboCAFC[/cite]No one concerned him calling the club a "viable business", not being funny but I get worried the board talk like that. If i owned a football club I would never refer to it as a business in any form. Liverpool didn't turn out too well when their previous owner ran the club like a business rather then a football club, when they purchased Torres the owners said it will become a good profit in the future. Bit worried to be honest.
I like to see you try to persuade HM Revenue and Customs it's not a business. I'd also like to see your reaction if you got bad service from the commercial centre or the shop, complained and the staff responded that you can't expect normal standards from a football club, because we're not a business, you know!
Football clubs that don't remember they are businesses tend to go out of business - or at least into administration.
You're spoiling the illusion. I wish could remember who said, when asked, to make a million out of a football club....
The non-cynic in me says the lead in time to get letters and articles like this done is quite long and so may often be overtaken by events and so another reason why AFKA should come along to a Target 40k meeting twice a year.
I do think MS is starting to be more vocal. There was no need to mention the Jenks refusal at all but he has pre-empted the situation but getting the Club view out there first. And annoucing same time as Solly lessens the blow.
I don't think people thinking of renewing would have been that put off by Jenkinson refusing to sign, he's only played 7 games and is a full back.
The PR by the club in recent weeks has been quite smart really, who was the media bloke we employed who was linked to Slater? Bet he has something to do with these recent statements by Slater
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They take over a team handily placed for the play-offs and even the top two.
They then get upset when we lose a couple of games and sack the manager.
Now they decide that the results are not in fact the manager's fault but the players'.
They also decide that results and promotion this season aren't so important afer all.
If they had such a long term view of things at the start, why did they throw their weight around and sack the manager who was after all doing very well with what is now perceived to be such a crap squad.
In my opinion they think they are clever but the evidence is to the contrary (sorry).
There was never any question of me not renewing, but I felt that proactive marketing campaign deserved recognition. I still have a good feeling about the new owners AND the new manager.
Has you gone and got me muddled with someone else? I don't care that I haven't had a letter. Still got a club and I am now allowed to publicly declare my love for Big Mig without Swisdom chortling. Well happy.
Dear Michael
As you receive this email we'll be preparing for our first training session in Colombo ahead of our quarter-final against Sri Lanka later in the week. I think it's fair to say our journey has been a rollercoaster ride and whilst there's no doubting we could've played better in some of the matches I have been delighted with the fight and determination we've shown throughout the tournament so far.
There's no doubting Sri Lanka will be a tough opponents. They've played well throughout the tournament so far and fully deserve our respect. But, I'm confident they'll come up against a very committed England team that is determined to take this opportunity to claim a place in a World Cup semi-final.
As always your support means everything to us. The following we had throughout the tour to Australia was amazing and we've seen something similar over the past month as we've travelled around South East Asia.
On behalf of the team I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you and hope to see you over the course of the summer.
Andrew Strauss
It may be obvious and designed to get S/T renewals, but the letter meant something to me.
Now, if Chris Powell can build on the performance last night I might feel able to relax and look forwards with a little more optimism
Well said, Mr Slater. After 45 years of watching , of which probably 30 were choked with disappointment and may be 15 were half-decent, that sentence sums it up for me!
The club knows the words need to be backed up action, but I can't see how that makes the words a negative in themselves. If there was no letter and the board had said nothing I don't doubt that people would be on here demanding communication and continuing to speculate that there would be no significant investment - as indeed they were until it arrived.
I said before you would hear more and now you have. As you'll appreciate there is a lead time in getting these things out. It's entirely fair to say that you will judge the board by its actions, less so to imply criticism of them for communicating what they can at this stage.
As an aside, the season-ticket income is proportionately more significant the lower down the league you go, which is why the club was able to offer the free season ticket in the Premier League.
Ditto
It is not the lack of future action which makes the words negative, it is the implication that there has already been an improvement which, to my mind, makes the letter negative.
We can only really judge on what we see, and I can't see much real improvement. There may well have been improvements behind the scenes but the letter does not explain what these are so I am not sure how it can state that there has been an end to the decline.
Apart from the staff changes and the signing of BWP they have bought us a new Big Screen.
I know that's not a lot, but it is better than if they'd not bothered.
Although everything about a football club screams team and results it in reality is a business like any other. The reason that the team aspect of the business has failed over the last six years is just because the other aspects of the business were failing to generate enough money to invest in the team. If the Chairman feels that the decline in the clubs affairs have stopes I think it only fair that we assume problems of the pitch have successfully been addressed. That visible investment which is the playing side we are told will be made in the summer and you either believe Mr. Slater or not. I for one do believe him and can see nothing negative about this letter at all.
I think the distinction as follows: the decline in results may have continued, but it is no longer self-perpetuating. What's been going on over the last four years is that lack of success on the pitch has led to reduced income in ticket and other commercial areas, leading to reduced quality on the pitch and further reduced income. This spiral came to an end in January because the new owners are able to invest in the team with less immediate regard for revenue.
In simple terms, fewer season ticket holders next season will not lead to a weaker playing squad than this season - although of course it may be weaker than it would have been with more season ticket holders. The spiral effect is interrupted by investment, which has begun.
What he said
I'll be renewing mine later.
As much as many are fed up right now I'm confident that with a better squad and an upturn in results most of the current season tickets holders will renew, they just might not do so right now.
Having said that, I suspect that a fair few will bite the bullet when they think they might be about to lose their regular seat in June or July.
The Parkinson dismissal has been done to death (I could provide a 2 page analysis of probably why the decision was made) can we please move on.
I endorse Airman’s' point.
The growth of the club will largely depend on its ability to set the budget for the assembly of next season’s squad in a timely manner. For me the club has scrambled to do so since the days of Pardew. Recently we have barely finalized signings until the final days of the close season, scrambling to bring players in at the last minute and even then leaving significant gaps in the squad until the loan market deadline.
It smacked of desperation, evidencing apparently poor planning and stop gap solutions. The resultant squad preparation for the forthcoming season must have been seriously compromised.
If all of that is behind us then it certainly will be a step in the right direction.
Grapevine49
You know it makes sense. This time next year....
I like to see you try to persuade HM Revenue and Customs it's not a business. I'd also like to see your reaction if you got bad service from the commercial centre or the shop, complained and the staff responded that you can't expect normal standards from a football club, because we're not a business, you know!
Football clubs that don't remember they are businesses tend to go out of business - or at least into administration.
You're spoiling the illusion. I wish could remember who said, when asked, to make a million out of a football club....
start with 10 million...
http://www.cafctv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10267~2322355,00.html
I do think MS is starting to be more vocal. There was no need to mention the Jenks refusal at all but he has pre-empted the situation but getting the Club view out there first. And annoucing same time as Solly lessens the blow.
The PR by the club in recent weeks has been quite smart really, who was the media bloke we employed who was linked to Slater? Bet he has something to do with these recent statements by Slater