The Club has, in my opinion made a gigantic mistake in sacking Phil.
I have known the man for 26 years and was involved in his transfer from Bury to Reading in the 80's.
The man was the finest example of a pro that I ever came across and he took those qualities with him into management.
Shame on the new Board for throwing him out.
Yes, Phil was generous to a fault and at times rejected cash incentives to pursue his desire to be totally professional. But, as we are all becoming aware, good character and loyalty have little place in the modern game.
To the new board I would say this.
Take someone off the managerial roundabout as you probably have had your eyes on someone long before sacking Phil and watch with dismay as you question your judgement.
He will re-emerge and come to haunt you of that I have no doubt.
You have a great Club and it has always been a great occasion to visit.
The 'knee jerk' reaction from your new board of directors suggest that the near future is full of pitfalls.
I wish you well but fear for you.
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professional?....yes
i nice man?...seems it
tactical knowledge?..at times like a confused child playing football manager, and his style of football is atrocious.
footballs a harsh world and im sure PP knows this. wish him all the best, but in my opinion he just isnt good enough.
For the record, nobody - or at least very very few people as far as I can tell - are questioning the mans character commitment or integrity.
But sometimes that just isn't enough on it's own.
if you were me you wouldnt think its a mistake but footballs about opinions and he certainly divided them
good post totally agree.
im very disappointed that he's been given the boot, should have had until the end of the season.
I don't really think that it was a knee jerk reaction from the board as I feel ultimately everyone has been aware for a long time that we are not quite firing on all cylinders and that a fresh perspective was needed and really it's only been because of the financial restrictions that PP has survived so long. I don't really see PP coming back to bite us tbh, he will probably be a decent tier 3 or 4 boss but not really the man to move Charlton in the direction that the fans and the board need, sad but true. I and many others thank him for his dignity and effort as he was arguably dealt one of the poorer hands that a Charlton manager could have and I feel he gave it his best- sadly it was not good enough.
Last year he did do very well all in all but should he have done that little bit better? A great start held up a very poor middle in which we dropped right away from the promotion pack and almost lost the play offs. Then we lost in them anyway through possibly no-fault of his own in the penalty shoot out but should we have beaten 10 man swindon when 2-1 up?? All this with possibly THE best first eleven in the league (Bailey/Sam/Richardson/Burton)
This year agreed he's done well with a poor squad (he did well with signings) but already (and it's only Xmas) we've had two VERY poor spells playing very poor football and getting beaten properly in return.
Bit sad he's gone and it depends who they replace him with really as to whether we will regret it.
I just worry that the game is losing managers with integrity and directors are looking at a 'three game scenario' instead of looking at the longer term haul.
Wasn't Mr Ferguson one match away from the sack some time back?
It's a shame Mr Gaerkid8 hasn't sat with me for the last two years so we could analyse what has gone on in games, the tactics that PP uses, the players that PP has brought in, then maybe you could argue that he is a fine example of a pro, blah, blah ... blah.
Has anyone here ever had to make the decision to sack/ fire someone? Would you say that the person was a fine example of a human being, a great lad/ lass etc, but the decision had to be made.
Last night was the final straw. the removal of a centre half, the quote that he couldnt motivate the players, the fact that he played mccormack as the most forward midfielder. only a few examples. A few weeks ago i watched walsall totally outplay us. they have hardly set the world on fire, in fact they sacked their manager today. The team against walsall was set up wrongly, but thats my opinion. We got lucky earlier in the season when Reid got injured. we went on our good run at that point, then before you can blink reid is back in and we are one dimensional again. i have watched barnet perform wonders at the valley, and luton ... come on we have to be a real here. if we want to compete this season the decision needs to be made. otherwise another year goes by.
but his football philosophy seems to be hoof and run and his ability to change things around were lacking
its a results business and i have heard he was close to the sack after brighton but the chairman at the time backed him fair play to the chairman and parky but he leaves with the outside world looking in thinking its harsh so it wont do him no harm, if he had left after a second season of failure he would be more tranished
and parky would never have taken us up with a squad worse than last year
Parky all the best in finding new work .
To the man that is coming in you have a job to do the board must have a name and do your best for Charlton and the fans.
I don't think Parkinson is the right man to take us out this league and beyond, which is why i feel his removal from the role is the right decision.
I do honestly wish him all the best as a manager in the future. I have nothing against him as a person. Some of his business considering his limitations has been good.
I pray the board hire a good enough manager for us otherwise it makes his sacking pointless. Time will tell on that front.
As you are his friend you can pass on a majority of the fans best wishes to him. Mine included.
Maybe not but Parky had the benefit of inheriting the best team in the league by far at the start of last season but he just didn't know what to do with them.
not a lot but £250,000 on Benson and his tactic was to smash it as hard and as high up to him. The players got talent, the manager didnt know how to tap into it.
fancy the new man will get a lot more out of Benson yet people will be saying how PP found him!!
If the 'new man' is even a half-decent manager, Benson will be back to re-training as an accountant.
Here's a question:
If Parkinson had never been our manager, but had done what he has done with another Club ... based on that track record, would we be clamouring to have him installed as our 'new man'?
I don't think so Dave. I think too much is happening too quickly for a lot of people.Whether that's good or not i don't know.
No, that appears to have been a myth.
Man U at that time only sacked managers once the gates fell below a certain level, they weren't interested in success and winning trophies as an end in itself - that meant investing in a bigger squad and buying the best players which meant spending money, what motivated the Edwards family was the amount of money they could make through the turnstiles.
I have known the man for 26 years and was involved in his transfer from Bury to Reading in the 80's.
The man was the finest example of a pro that I ever came across and he took those qualities with him into management.
Shame on the new Board for throwing him out.
Yes, Phil was generous to a fault and at times rejected cash incentives to pursue his desire to be totally professional. But, as we are all becoming aware, good character and loyalty have little place in the modern game.
To the new board I would say this.
Take someone off the managerial roundabout as you probably have had your eyes on someone long before sacking Phil and watch with dismay as you question your judgement.
He will re-emerge and come to haunt you of that I have no doubt.
You have a great Club and it has always been a great occasion to visit.
The 'knee jerk' reaction from your new board of directors suggest that the near future is full of pitfalls.
I wish you well but fear for you.[/quote]
Look mate, it is well documented that Parky is a nice bloke, not up for discussion, however he is a shite manager, I dont give a rats arse how long you have known him, he is a shite manager, I agree we have a great club, infortunately Parky is a shite manager and great clubs do not have shite managers. I wish Parky well, all ex CAFC players score against us when they come back, I expect Parky to turn up at the Valley in the future as boss of non league or league two Port-Crew-Burton Town and beat us in a cup. Its what happens, but he is a shite manager. BTW keep your scaremongering, Vincent Price posts to yourself, have a nice night!
Not clamouring, no, but I think his name would come up in the discussions, a bit like Eddie Howe, Paul Tisdale, Steve Tilson and John Still have all been mentioned as possible Charlton managers.
Not strictly true that, is it?
For example, Ron Atkinson spent £1.75 million on Bryan Robson - a British record at the time - and got the tin tack because they were third or fourth from bottom at the time and had just been dumped out of one of the cups (League cup?).
;o)
I don't think he got bulletted immediately after we beat them - but it wasn't long.
But, by your own definition, Bibble ..... wouldn't that make the new Charlton boss a shite manager?