First of all best wishes to Confetti Lady. It was clearly a very distressing, and no doubt painful, experience. Perhaps, if someone from the club sees this thread, they might think it would be a nice goodwill gesture to give her family some complimentaries for the next game for a place where there couldn't possibly be a repeat. If someone is found to have thrown it, then that crass stupidity and fully deserves a ban and a prosecution.
That said, I don't think we should rule out what CafcAndy is saying. It's not inconceivable that something could fall, especially immediately following a goal. In fact given the number of people who frequent the Upper North and the number of matches there are, perhaps it would be more of a surprise if nothing ever fell. It might be worth waiting to see if anything more comes out of an investigation before jumping to conclusions.
Somebody got injured by a mindless fan throwing a coin. I'm just glad she's not seriously injured. I don't think there's much else to say on the subject.
something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
You seem to be a bit insensitive here, Large .....so I guess nothing like this has ever happened to you.
But a 60 year old lady supporter was struck by a coin, she has been hurt and she's suffered a traumatic reaction.
You might dismiss this incident ...... but the club is treating it very seriously indeed.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
Accelerating at a rate of 9.8 metres per second per second a £1 coin falling from the upper would bloody cane.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
You seem to be a bit insensitive here, Large .....so I guess nothing like this has ever happened to you.
But a 60 year old lady supporter was struck by a coin, she has been hurt and she's suffered a traumatic reaction.
You might dismiss this incident ...... but the club is treating it very seriously indeed.
Think you mis-interpreted Large's comment there Oggster.
[cite]Posted By: cafc_joe[/cite]It was not thrown immediately after the goal. The incident took place at least 10 minutes after the goal, minimum, fact.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
For a lady apprently "effing and blinding" at everyone around her when the coin hit her, i find the picture on the OS amazing.
What head injuries did you suffer to your head confetti lady? If your head shows major swelling/bleeding ect then it is a case closed scenario (someone threw it from a distance).
Here is a test for people..Throw a pound a tiny bit above your head and let it fall..Yes it hurts and yes i would be mad.
Who actually are you defending? do you know who did it?
It saddens me that anybody can make light of a serious incident like this. We do have some morons who support us, as do other clubs but we certainly shouldn't excuse them for being morons. What sort of fun can you get throwing a coin from a height at people? Also, Elliot was in goal in front of the stand- do they think that would have helped his concentration. If anybody knows who did it or can pinpoint where it came from they have to get in touch with the club. I can't remember being so angry with our fans and so disapointed. DISGRACE!!!!
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]something so small falling or dropped would not cause you to go into severe shock or cause such injury. Why do some people always seek to defend such actions with arguements that just don't hold water.
For a lady apprently "effing and blinding" at everyone around her when the coin hit her, i find the picture on the OS amazing.
What head injuries did you suffer to your head confetti lady? If your head shows major swelling/bleeding ect then it is a case closed scenario (someone threw it from a distance).
Here is a test for people..Throw a pound a tiny bit above your head and let it fall..Yes it hurts and yes i would be mad.
Who actually are you defending? do you know who did it?
Not defending anyone Beds.
A family friend is looking into this case, and they DEFFINETLY are not rulling this scenario out.
agreed
If it was thrown with intent, ban the fucke* for life.
Hope Confetti lady recovers well. Mindless idiots that do things like that.
Credit to the club for not hiding or pretending it did not happen, the fact they have released the statement means there is more chance now of finding out the culprit and banning them.
There is a huge difference between people throwing bog roll at eachother and people getting the hump about that, than what has happend here. From what i recall of the bog roll throwing thread it was more about the mess it makes than the impact of the actual throwing of a bog roll between like minded people there is too much of a nanny state being aimed at some rowdy but harmless group of people who come in for the wrong stick
HOWEVER
Any Prick that takes it outside of their own group or throws something that was obviously intended to hurt someone proberly the goal keeper of the opposing team, is a complete tool and deserves whatever is given out to them,
If it is the same people who think racist chanting and complete shite spouting at away games that i witnessed last year or those that offer out people with their kids because they are asked not to smoke in the bogs .
Its about time you realised that you are not supporting our club you are dragging it through the dirt.
Keep your opinions to yourself and your actions to those of other teams that are as like minded yourselves if you are as tough as you think you are then you will know where to find those of the same thoughts as you dont bring what used to be called Shirts into your fun because some of those shirts might not give you the response you think
[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Think you mis-interpreted Large's comment there Oggster.
Sorry if I have, WSS.
I read Large's post and thought his comments as dismissive of what had happened.
If I've misunderstood what he wrote, then I'll be pleased to apologise to him.
nla - good point regarding the bog roll etc and people making comparisons.
As for your last bit I doubt very much that whoever was responsible has ever had anything to do with a group who were interested in engaging with 'like minded individuals'. I'd put money on it being a kid who'd had too much beer and was trying to impress his mates.
[cite]Posted By: cafc_joe[/cite]It was not thrown immediately after the goal. The incident took place at least 10 minutes after the goal, minimum, fact.
So ?
Was just responding to a post saying that it may have been an accident, immediately after the goal was scored.
[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Think you mis-interpreted Large's comment there Oggster.
Sorry if I have, WSS.
I read Large's post and thought his comments as dismissive of what had happened.
If I've misunderstood what he wrote, then I'll be pleased to apologise to him.
I maybe wrong but I thought Large meant was if you tossed a coin a few feet above your head and it then hit you it wouldn't do the damage seen in the photo.
Also I don't think intent comes into it. If someone has thrown a coin from the NU then that is reckless and dangerous as any reasonable person could predict that injury was possible and likely. That they may not have aimed it at a particular person or meant it to go on the pitch or elsewhere doesn't stop what they did being reckless and dangerous.
I saw the toilet roll incident (not who therw it) - it was thrown as a whole roll rather than the acceptable opening of the role and whilst it isn't going to do any lasting damage, it could have caused shock and was thrown as a laugh at somebody elses's expense. think on a scenario where it hits a young kid or a pregnant lady. Just isn't funny and anybody who thinks it is is a complete to**er. We don't need any of that sort in the ground and they are pathetic excuses for human beings.
[cite]Posted By: PalaceHater[/cite]nla - good point regarding the bog roll etc and people making comparisons.
As for your last bit I doubt very much that whoever was responsible has ever had anything to do with a group who were interested in engaging with 'like minded individuals'. I'd put money on it being a kid who'd had too much beer and was trying to impress his mates.
Come on seriously, do you honestly think they aimed it for our own fans? anyone ever think it was aimed at the Bristol Keeper in the goal? and they just got there bearings wrong.
i dont think throwing stuff on the pitch is acceptable but throwing toilet roll amungst ourselves, like at southend isnt gonna hurt anyone, people at this club need to relax a bit. its just creating a bit of banter, what if poeple just sat on there arese the whole game, it'd be boring and our attendences would be 5k let alone 15k. yet people on here saying the f off to the den? no wonder where known as trainspotters.
[cite]Posted By: AndyCAFC[/cite]Come on seriously, do you honestly think they aimed it for our own fans? anyone ever think it was aimed at the Bristol Keeper in the goal? and they just got there bearings wrong.
i dont think throwing stuff on the pitch is acceptable but throwing toilet roll amungst ourselves, like at southend isnt gonna hurt anyone, people at this club need to relax a bit. its just creating a bit of banter, what if poeple just sat on there arese the whole game, it'd be boring and our attendences would be 5k let alone 15k. yet people on here saying the fuck off to the den? no wonder where known as trainspotters.
see youve got it totally wrong andy, the fact that you suggest so flippantly was aimed at the bristol keeper is playing into the hands of those criticising younger people for throwing bog roll at each other.
i have been going years and we may not have had nuimbers but we were loud and had the banter that you are talking about and i never hurt another addick or threw anything at opposing team player.
the enviroment some are trying to introduce is not suited to al lot of people and i whole heartedly agree they should save it for those that wish to recipricate it.
[cite]Posted By: AndyCAFC[/cite]Come on seriously, do you honestly think they aimed it for our own fans? anyone ever think it was aimed at the Bristol Keeper in the goal? and they just got there bearings wrong.
By about 120 yards seeing their keeper was at the other end of the pitch.
What a ludicrous post. NLA I commend your post because if I type what I'm thinking I'd gave to ban myself!
Yep spot on but what happens next is those that are only fucking about amongst themselves will be grouped the same as those with a different agenda .
Whoever did it should take a long hard look at themselves and question why did I do that was it because I want to be part of the other group we all know who they are and where they gather or have I done it to look hardest out of the group that go there to support mess around and enjoy themselves vocally .
Because unless things have changed that much those that they were trying to impress would either say your a dickhead for doing that.
Or think the same and not let you near their group because the are a liability.
my mistake elliot was in the goal by the north in the second half. well then that idiot needs to sort their lifes out. espically at their own fan,
at barnet in the Fa cup Replay, someone got kicked out for throwing toilet roll like 2 seats infront of him to his mate. two or three stewards immediatly came up and kicked him out. and after that the whole lot in block a got told they were under hooligan camera's and then where repeadtly threathened to be kicked out for 'intimidating' the away fans.
now if that happened at barnet, imagine luton, the whole away end would be kicked out.. i know its got nothing to do with the coin but the stewards need to have a bit of cop on. its a football game, and they should realise that stuff like the coin inccedent and that will happen, if we like it or not, thats just life. and i just want to see how they react. and if they catch who threw it.
and on tuesday, some lad got kicked out for hiting the metal at the back of the J Block to try and make some noise.
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That said, I don't think we should rule out what CafcAndy is saying. It's not inconceivable that something could fall, especially immediately following a goal. In fact given the number of people who frequent the Upper North and the number of matches there are, perhaps it would be more of a surprise if nothing ever fell. It might be worth waiting to see if anything more comes out of an investigation before jumping to conclusions.
You seem to be a bit insensitive here, Large .....so I guess nothing like this has ever happened to you.
But a 60 year old lady supporter was struck by a coin, she has been hurt and she's suffered a traumatic reaction.
You might dismiss this incident ...... but the club is treating it very seriously indeed.
Accelerating at a rate of 9.8 metres per second per second a £1 coin falling from the upper would bloody cane.
So ?
Who actually are you defending? do you know who did it?
Credit to the club for not hiding or pretending it did not happen, the fact they have released the statement means there is more chance now of finding out the culprit and banning them.
HOWEVER
Any Prick that takes it outside of their own group or throws something that was obviously intended to hurt someone proberly the goal keeper of the opposing team, is a complete tool and deserves whatever is given out to them,
If it is the same people who think racist chanting and complete shite spouting at away games that i witnessed last year or those that offer out people with their kids because they are asked not to smoke in the bogs .
Its about time you realised that you are not supporting our club you are dragging it through the dirt.
Keep your opinions to yourself and your actions to those of other teams that are as like minded yourselves if you are as tough as you think you are then you will know where to find those of the same thoughts as you dont bring what used to be called Shirts into your fun because some of those shirts might not give you the response you think
Sorry if I have, WSS.
I read Large's post and thought his comments as dismissive of what had happened.
If I've misunderstood what he wrote, then I'll be pleased to apologise to him.
As for your last bit I doubt very much that whoever was responsible has ever had anything to do with a group who were interested in engaging with 'like minded individuals'. I'd put money on it being a kid who'd had too much beer and was trying to impress his mates.
Was just responding to a post saying that it may have been an accident, immediately after the goal was scored.
I maybe wrong but I thought Large meant was if you tossed a coin a few feet above your head and it then hit you it wouldn't do the damage seen in the photo.
Also I don't think intent comes into it. If someone has thrown a coin from the NU then that is reckless and dangerous as any reasonable person could predict that injury was possible and likely. That they may not have aimed it at a particular person or meant it to go on the pitch or elsewhere doesn't stop what they did being reckless and dangerous.
My Mum has a season-ticket not far away from where the incident took place and I'd be f*cking fuming if she had been hit the way happened last night.
i make you 100% right
i dont think throwing stuff on the pitch is acceptable but throwing toilet roll amungst ourselves, like at southend isnt gonna hurt anyone, people at this club need to relax a bit. its just creating a bit of banter, what if poeple just sat on there arese the whole game, it'd be boring and our attendences would be 5k let alone 15k. yet people on here saying the f off to the den? no wonder where known as trainspotters.
see youve got it totally wrong andy, the fact that you suggest so flippantly was aimed at the bristol keeper is playing into the hands of those criticising younger people for throwing bog roll at each other.
i have been going years and we may not have had nuimbers but we were loud and had the banter that you are talking about and i never hurt another addick or threw anything at opposing team player.
the enviroment some are trying to introduce is not suited to al lot of people and i whole heartedly agree they should save it for those that wish to recipricate it.
What a ludicrous post. NLA I commend your post because if I type what I'm thinking I'd gave to ban myself!
Whoever did it should take a long hard look at themselves and question why did I do that was it because I want to be part of the other group we all know who they are and where they gather or have I done it to look hardest out of the group that go there to support mess around and enjoy themselves vocally .
Because unless things have changed that much those that they were trying to impress would either say your a dickhead for doing that.
Or think the same and not let you near their group because the are a liability.
at barnet in the Fa cup Replay, someone got kicked out for throwing toilet roll like 2 seats infront of him to his mate. two or three stewards immediatly came up and kicked him out. and after that the whole lot in block a got told they were under hooligan camera's and then where repeadtly threathened to be kicked out for 'intimidating' the away fans.
now if that happened at barnet, imagine luton, the whole away end would be kicked out.. i know its got nothing to do with the coin but the stewards need to have a bit of cop on. its a football game, and they should realise that stuff like the coin inccedent and that will happen, if we like it or not, thats just life. and i just want to see how they react. and if they catch who threw it.
and on tuesday, some lad got kicked out for hiting the metal at the back of the J Block to try and make some noise.
I would ban the his IP just in case :-)