I cant beleive charlton fans still rate him, he is shit shit shit, always goes missing, crap defending crap going forward, cant pass (except sideways for 5 yards) Division four here we come.
[cite]Posted By: Southendaddick[/cite]Not the player he was last season and showed up a bit yesterday.
Still good at what he does - breaking up play and giving to someone else, but when the someone else is Racon...
Correct
Semedo is superb at breaking up play and playing it simple. That's his job and he's good at it. He plays the makelele role. Unfortunately his partner is slow, unfit and goes missing too often
[cite]Posted By: WelshAddick[/cite]I cant beleive charlton fans still rate him, he is shit shit shit, always goes missing, crap defending crap going forward, cant pass (except sideways for 5 yards) Division four here we come.
You have just described Matt Holland, I bet you loved him when he was here.
Semedo is easily the best player in the team, when youhave shite in Racon next to him of course he is going to struggle.
Agreed with the above, his best abilities lie in winning the ball and giving a simple pass to a teammate. This season he's winning it and trying to play a killer pass, which he hasn't got the ability to do, either because a teammate isn't close-by or there is no movement at all so he's hitting it into space hoping someone will get there.
He's a good player but limited, pretty much like any defensive-minded midfielder.
[cite]Posted By: WelshAddick[/cite]I cant beleive charlton fans still rate him, he is shit shit shit, always goes missing, crap defending crap going forward, cant pass (except sideways for 5 yards) Division four here we come.
You have just described Matt Holland, I bet you loved him when he was here.
Semedo is easily the best player in the team, when youhave shite in Racon next to him of course he is going to struggle.
I'm almost certainly in a minortity of one with this comment but I would have kept Kishishev above Matty Holland.
I believed Pardew's bull that Kish's legs had gone at the time as I stupidly trusted him. Yesterday showed emphatically Kish still has much to offer at this level at least.
[cite]Posted By: WelshAddick[/cite]I cant beleive charlton fans still rate him, he is shit shit shit, always goes missing, crap defending crap going forward, cant pass (except sideways for 5 yards) Division four here we come.
You have just described Matt Holland, I bet you loved him when he was here.
Semedo is easily the best player in the team, when youhave shite in Racon next to him of course he is going to struggle.
I'm almost certainly in a minortity of one with this comment but I would have kept Kishishev above Matty Holland.
I believed Pardew's bull that Kish's legs had gone at the time as I stupidly trusted him. Yesterday showed emphatically Kish still has much to offer at this level at least.
To be honest I never understood all the fuss about Holland when he was here. For me he was so overrated, it used to astound me how much people loved him, just cos he was such a nice guy. Far too nice a guy to be a proper effective centre mid when he was with us.
[cite]Posted By: paulsturgess[/cite]To be honest I never understood all the fuss about Holland when he was here. For me he was so overrated, it used to astound me how much people loved him, just cos he was such a nice guy. Far too nice a guy to be a proper effective centre mid when he was with us.
I've mentioned this so many times only to get shot down on here. Holland clapped at the end of every defeat and everyone thought he was some Charlton hero who cared. We got overun so many times when he played how he was not realesed when we went down from the prem I will never know.
Still think he is our best player...playing in an awful team with little idea on what to do in possesion. I do agree he hasn't been the same as last season, but then other than Waggy, who has, or hasn't left.
Swindon at home 1 example where he saved us. Ineptitude from the manager, left us playing 2 in defence with 7 attacking. He virtually defended the last 10mins on his own, and we were so fortunate not to concede before and after Llera scored. There are plenty more like this, and there are times when he has been subbed off for a more attacking threat, and they simply end up overpowering us in the centre (Norwich last year as an example)
Yesterday Kishishev played in a well managed and tactically astute side, dominating a non-existent midfield. I honestly think that Semedo playing in that Brighton side, would have still crushed our midfield with Kishishev.
Interesting to hear somebody who agrees on that Nicholas, me and my brothers always used to say that when he was around and likewise everybody else seemed to disagree, i thought he was pony by and large, dont have a problem with him but, despite his limited ability, I had much more affection for that little workhorse kishishev. Anybody can make sure they walk down the tunnel last and make a point of going over to clap the supporters, which is great, but I'd rather he sacked off doing that and was a rude bastard first down the tunnel and booed off the pitch by opposition fans for putting in too many no-nonsense tackles. Too polite and looked like he had the same haircut since he was about 8, hes a footballer not a bank manager.
[cite]Posted By: jazzyjazzyjazzy[/cite]Get racon off, then he will play better.
Maybe it could have the reverse effect though?
If Semedo was dropped and Racon had another player along side him maybe we could see a more consistent Racon.
He shows glimpses and touches of the creative type of player we are yelling out for.
Obviously he does a lot to contradict those good moments which stands out but going forward to feed Benson and Abbott is something he is more capable of doing as apposed to Semedo who mainly plays the simple pass.
I admire the effort Jose puts in and he is a genuine guy with a great spirit but we need something to change in the middle.
[cite]Posted By: jazzyjazzyjazzy[/cite]Cant Alan Mccormack and Semedo play together?!?!
Didn't really work the few times they played.
5 man midfield might be a solution.
Agree, I think we should have went back to a 5 man midfield when we started to struggle towards the end of last season, but Parkinson hasn't has the brains to go back to it. I just dont understand why he can't try a midfield of Racon,Semedo and Jackson with Reid and Martin or Waggy on the wings. Jackson can create with Semdo and Racon doing the donkey work.
Stayed out of this until now because I don't like personalising it. When a team is not playing well, it is never down to just one player, even if said player is supposed to be the 'talisman' (which Semedo is not cut out to be and never has been).
I'd simply say we have a major probelm in central midfield. The two players currently holding those shirts are in something like their fourth season with us. Yet they all too often play like they've never met each other before. And you cannot help but note that they are among the very few constant factors in our decline to where we are today - 14th in div three.
And, yes. Yesterday did make one realise what a 22 carat gem Kish was.
Racon is the problem, Semedo was excellent all of last season imho and is one of the best midfielders in the division. He just needs someone alongside him who will dicate play going forward, create and weigh in with a few goals/assists. Unless we sign someone on loan, Jackson is the player I would like to see in the centre alongside Semedo.
[cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite] I'm almost certainly in a minortity of one with this comment but I would have kept Kishishev above Matty Holland.
I doubt it!
Definitely. And the point about Mr. Clean Shorts doing naff all, but being hailed as a Charlton hero just cos he clapped the fans at the end is spot on.
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He just looks far too interested in going backwards. A holding midfielder can still play a forward pass sometimes.
Still good at what he does - breaking up play and giving to someone else, but when the someone else is Racon...
Correct
Semedo is superb at breaking up play and playing it simple. That's his job and he's good at it. He plays the makelele role. Unfortunately his partner is slow, unfit and goes missing too often
He's exactly the same player he was last year, he just doesn't have the same players around him this year.
You have just described Matt Holland, I bet you loved him when he was here.
Semedo is easily the best player in the team, when youhave shite in Racon next to him of course he is going to struggle.
He's a good player but limited, pretty much like any defensive-minded midfielder.
I'm almost certainly in a minortity of one with this comment but I would have kept Kishishev above Matty Holland.
I believed Pardew's bull that Kish's legs had gone at the time as I stupidly trusted him. Yesterday showed emphatically Kish still has much to offer at this level at least.
Kish is streets ahead of both Racon and Semedo.
Agree with you 100%.
I've mentioned this so many times only to get shot down on here. Holland clapped at the end of every defeat and everyone thought he was some Charlton hero who cared. We got overun so many times when he played how he was not realesed when we went down from the prem I will never know.
Swindon at home 1 example where he saved us. Ineptitude from the manager, left us playing 2 in defence with 7 attacking. He virtually defended the last 10mins on his own, and we were so fortunate not to concede before and after Llera scored. There are plenty more like this, and there are times when he has been subbed off for a more attacking threat, and they simply end up overpowering us in the centre (Norwich last year as an example)
Yesterday Kishishev played in a well managed and tactically astute side, dominating a non-existent midfield. I honestly think that Semedo playing in that Brighton side, would have still crushed our midfield with Kishishev.
Maybe it could have the reverse effect though?
If Semedo was dropped and Racon had another player along side him maybe we could see a more consistent Racon.
He shows glimpses and touches of the creative type of player we are yelling out for.
Obviously he does a lot to contradict those good moments which stands out but going forward to feed Benson and Abbott is something he is more capable of doing as apposed to Semedo who mainly plays the simple pass.
I admire the effort Jose puts in and he is a genuine guy with a great spirit but we need something to change in the middle.
Didn't really work the few times they played.
5 man midfield might be a solution.
Agree, I think we should have went back to a 5 man midfield when we started to struggle towards the end of last season, but Parkinson hasn't has the brains to go back to it. I just dont understand why he can't try a midfield of Racon,Semedo and Jackson with Reid and Martin or Waggy on the wings. Jackson can create with Semdo and Racon doing the donkey work.
I'd simply say we have a major probelm in central midfield. The two players currently holding those shirts are in something like their fourth season with us. Yet they all too often play like they've never met each other before. And you cannot help but note that they are among the very few constant factors in our decline to where we are today - 14th in div three.
And, yes. Yesterday did make one realise what a 22 carat gem Kish was.
I doubt it!
Definitely. And the point about Mr. Clean Shorts doing naff all, but being hailed as a Charlton hero just cos he clapped the fans at the end is spot on.