Perhaps he should be given the chance to talk to Parkinson to try and find out exactly what he's up to and what's gone wrong with the Masterplan. I'm sure we'd all like to know if he's got any ideas on sorting this mess out! Also, I might be a little over sensitive but do I detect a little ageism in some of these posts? Time to send for Henry!
I think there is little debate here, apart from those simply trying to stir things up. This man was clearly angered by the way this club has been treated over the last few years and yesterday was the straw the broke the camels back. He went to berate Parky and rightly was led away by security, I don't think anyone disagree's with how security treated him, he wasn't bundled to the ground, or heavy handedly forced off the field of play, just a gently push in the back to the exit. The man doesn't deserve a ban, I think there is a general consensus that he wasn't a physical threat to anybody and because of that should be welcomed back to the club to take up the seat that he's probably been sitting in or around since the last time we saw dark days like these.
[cite]Posted By: JollyRobin[/cite]
just a gently push in the back to the exit.
Where he then had his season ticket taken from him, was arrested, and taken to the police station, as the club were quick to tell the world on social networks yesterday.
[cite]Posted By: JollyRobin[/cite]
just a gently push in the back to the exit.
Where he then had his season ticket taken from him, was arrested, and taken to the police station, as the club were quick to tell the world on social networks yesterday.
What a shame the Club is not as enthusiastic and assiduous in resolving the problems that drove the poor chap to take the action he did.
The story of 21st Century Britain though. The victim is always the criminal...
This is crazy, he got nicked! As i said before kick him up the arse and tell him not to do it again. I bet the coppers down Plumstead nick had a right laugh.
Left before the fourth, did he go onto the pitch or did he walk up behind the advert boards? If he did walk up behind the boards, he has done nothing wrong, as they are fans sitting along the track.
[cite]Posted By: guinnessaddick[/cite]Left before the fourth, did he go onto the pitch or did he walk up behind the advert boards? If he did walk up behind the boards, he has don't anything wrong, as they are fans sitting along the track.
didn't go near the pitch, was just on the track by the dugout....as you say, right in front of where the disabled supporters sit, how on earth is that an arrestable offence.
The Club that refused to publicly condemn the common assault committed by McLeod against Northwitch last season but was happy to be seen "to be doing the right thing" by banning a fan who dared to berate the Manager.
The first "offence" was a violent act. The second wasn't. One was an "asset" who never did a thing for the Club whereas the other was a disgruntled life long supporter demonstrating his frustration.
I know which of the two I would have sent packing.
1) The club doesn't have the power of arrest or the authority to instruct the police to arrest people.
2) No doubt if the club had said nothing publicly about the incident it would have been accused of trying to pretend it didn't happen.
3) None of you know what sanction may or may not be imposed by the club. Season tickets are often confiscated when people are ejected. It would be wrong to assume they are never given back.
4) I don't believe for a minute the situation would have been handled differently under Peter Varney or anyone else.
Quite honestly I feel sorry for the guy!..... So he lost it and showed a bit of passion for the club!., the club that he has probably followed for years!
Bit rich as well seeing how Parkinson has conducted himself on the pitch this season!.
If the club have to follow league rules I guess there is not much that can be done, but did the police really have to be informed!.
The club may well be within it's right's!.... pity it did not take it's responsability to put up a decent performance, in the first place!
Where he then had his season ticket taken from him, was arrested, and taken to the police station, as the club were quick to tell the world on social networks yesterday.
Very sad if this was the case, however I think Airman has some valid points.
[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]1) The club doesn't have the power of arrest or the authority to instruct the police to arrest people.
2) No doubt if the club had said nothing publicly about the incident it would have been accused of trying to pretend it didn't happen.
3) None of you know what sanction may or may not be imposed by the club. Season tickets are often confiscated when people are ejected. It would be wrong to assume they are never given back.
4) I don't believe for a minute the situation would have been handled differently under Peter Varney or anyone else.
Airman, with regards to 2), why do you think the Club say nothing publicly following McLeod's assault on the Northwitch player? We couldn't pretend that didn't happen either given the match was on TV. Or are we just selective in what we publicly condemn?
[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]
Airman, with regards to 2), why do you think the Club say nothing publicly following McLeod's assault on the Northwitch player? We couldn't pretend that didn't happen either given the match was on TV. Or are we just selective in what we publicly condemn?
I think you're rather overstating a tweet by the head of communications as the club condemning this guy's actions, although it is hardly going to condone or encourage them whatever action it subsequently takes. I think the tweet concerned is more information than judgement and if the directors should want to make a statement on the subject I doubt if they will be using Twitter, useful as it is.
Anything that happens between players on the field falls into the remit of the manager. Apart from that one incident involves the police, as far as I know the other didn't. It wouldn't be a matter for non-football staff to issue statements about.
[cite]Posted By: ken from bexley[/cite]
If the club have to follow league rules I guess there is not much that can be done, but did the police really have to be informed!
Don't want to worry you, Ken, but the police are based in that big box in the south-west corner and they have more cameras than Sky TV. Unless they were all having a cuppa at the time, I wouldn't think they needed to be informed!
[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]
Airman, with regards to 2), why do you think the Club say nothing publicly following McLeod's assault on the Northwitch player? We couldn't pretend that didn't happen either given the match was on TV. Or are we just selective in what we publicly condemn?
I think you're rather overstating a tweet by the head of communications as the club condemning this guy's actions, although it is hardly going to condone or encourage them whatever action it subsequently takes. I think the tweet concerned is more information than judgement and if the directors should want to make a statement on the subject I doubt if they will be using Twitter, useful as it is.
Anything that happens between players on the field falls into the remit of the manager. Apart from that one incident involves the police, as far as I know the other didn't. It wouldn't be a matter for non-football staff to issue statements about.
Excellent point Addick Addict.
If the distinction is simply one of police involvement then why does it appear that the police view verbal abuse more seriously than physical assault?
McLeod's was a calculated not accidental action. The "geriatric," as he has been dubbed in this thread, acted in the heat of the moment to a shameful second half performance by the team he has lived and breathed for years of his life.
The Club should give his ticket back with a warning as to his future conduct and the police should sort out muggings rather than prosecuting frustrated football supporters if this is indeed is what has happened.
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Also, I might be a little over sensitive but do I detect a little ageism in some of these posts? Time to send for Henry!
Where he then had his season ticket taken from him, was arrested, and taken to the police station, as the club were quick to tell the world on social networks yesterday.
What a shame the Club is not as enthusiastic and assiduous in resolving the problems that drove the poor chap to take the action he did.
The story of 21st Century Britain though. The victim is always the criminal...
That is depressing in so many ways....where is common sense when you need it?
If the club have any culpability in this (and thats IF), then it is a massive PR own goal methinks.
If so youtube it please?
The Club has gone to the dogs.
didn't go near the pitch, was just on the track by the dugout....as you say, right in front of where the disabled supporters sit, how on earth is that an arrestable offence.
The man deserves to miss this seasons matches, I'm tempted to force the same 'punishment' on myself, but I won't sadly enough..
The first "offence" was a violent act. The second wasn't. One was an "asset" who never did a thing for the Club whereas the other was a disgruntled life long supporter demonstrating his frustration.
I know which of the two I would have sent packing.
Parky should arrange a meeting with him let him get it off his chest. Then the club let him back in to his seat.
Ffs charlton sort it out
2) No doubt if the club had said nothing publicly about the incident it would have been accused of trying to pretend it didn't happen.
3) None of you know what sanction may or may not be imposed by the club. Season tickets are often confiscated when people are ejected. It would be wrong to assume they are never given back.
4) I don't believe for a minute the situation would have been handled differently under Peter Varney or anyone else.
Bit rich as well seeing how Parkinson has conducted himself on the pitch this season!.
If the club have to follow league rules I guess there is not much that can be done, but did the police really have to be informed!.
The club may well be within it's right's!.... pity it did not take it's responsability to put up a decent performance, in the first place!
Very sad if this was the case, however I think Airman has some valid points.
Airman, with regards to 2), why do you think the Club say nothing publicly following McLeod's assault on the Northwitch player? We couldn't pretend that didn't happen either given the match was on TV. Or are we just selective in what we publicly condemn?
I think you're rather overstating a tweet by the head of communications as the club condemning this guy's actions, although it is hardly going to condone or encourage them whatever action it subsequently takes. I think the tweet concerned is more information than judgement and if the directors should want to make a statement on the subject I doubt if they will be using Twitter, useful as it is.
Anything that happens between players on the field falls into the remit of the manager. Apart from that one incident involves the police, as far as I know the other didn't. It wouldn't be a matter for non-football staff to issue statements about.
Don't want to worry you, Ken, but the police are based in that big box in the south-west corner and they have more cameras than Sky TV. Unless they were all having a cuppa at the time, I wouldn't think they needed to be informed!
Excellent point Addick Addict.
If the distinction is simply one of police involvement then why does it appear that the police view verbal abuse more seriously than physical assault?
McLeod's was a calculated not accidental action. The "geriatric," as he has been dubbed in this thread, acted in the heat of the moment to a shameful second half performance by the team he has lived and breathed for years of his life.
The Club should give his ticket back with a warning as to his future conduct and the police should sort out muggings rather than prosecuting frustrated football supporters if this is indeed is what has happened.
Fire Parky.
Install Granddad.
He'll get 'em playing as a team, or they'll face a public stoning by Werther's Originals.
However, people who are arrested are not necessarily charged and prosecuted.