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smoking at the valley?

tom_ktom_k
edited August 2010 in General Charlton
Saturday was my first home match for a couple of years due to work abroad.
At half time I was desperate for a cigarette but couldn't see anyone outside the gates.
My dad told me everyone just puts up with it and waits until full time. Is this true or do the gates men let you out and back in for a sneaky one?
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  • ShootersHillGuruShootersHillGuru
    The gents under north upper has at least 20 goons puffing away at half time. Club won't enforce the law so it carries on. I have e mailed the club twice about their running the risk of a fine if the authorities find out but there has been no effort to stop it. If the club get fined £10 k I will have bought my season ticket for life just to pay the fine for twenty idiots who can't do without their fix.
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    [cite]Posted By: tom- k[/cite]Saturday was my first home match for a couple of years due to work abroad.
    At half time I was desperate for a cigarette but couldn't see anyone outside the gates.
    My dad told me everyone just puts up with it and waits until full time. Is this true or do the gates men let you out and back in for a sneaky one?

    Its only two hours .i'm sure people can wait that short time to carry on killing themselves.
  • RossRoss
    Not with the stress levels that come with watching us sometimes!
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    here we go again.
  • uncleuncle
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]here we go again.
    Ha ha ha
  • JollyRobinJollyRobin
    The man just wants an answer to the question, not a lecture on smoking. I've never heard of the stewards on the gate letting people out for a crafty one, I tend not to bother myself, but surely there is no harm in asking. The worse they will do is just say no.
  • CAFCdamoCAFCdamo
    went for a piss and almost choked to death
  • CAFCsayerCAFCsayer
    [cite]Posted By: CAFCdamo[/cite]went for a piss and almost choked to death

    Your not meant to drink it mate, just use the urinal
  • Leroy AmbroseLeroy Ambrose
    edited August 2010
    [cite]Posted By: UP...THE...ADDICKS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: CAFCdamo[/cite]went for a piss and almost choked to death

    Your not meant to drink it mate, just use the urinal
    LMFAO - now THAT is funny

    Tek a boo son, tek a boo.
  • Simon ESimon E
    In the north lower it's the same, with a fog in the loo's at half time. But I think the club are starting to take notice. When I walked in, there was a group of guys having a smoke, I didn't really care and carried on. By the time I had finished I realised that it had gone very quiet, and turned around to see the guys had gone, and one of the "suicide squad" security stewards standing where the guys had been.

    Only taken 3 seasons for them to notice mind.
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  • PL54PL54
    Windsreen - I hope that is an attempt at a wind up.

    What is the problem with people drinking at Football and before / after ? It's a social event.
  • PL54PL54
    Windsreen - I hope that is an attempt at a wind up.

    What is the problem with people drinking at Football and before / after ? It's a social event.
  • ChunesChunes
    edited August 2010
    [cite]Posted By: PL54[/cite]Windsreen - I hope that is an attempt at a wind up.

    What is the problem with people drinking at Football and before / after ? It's a social event.

    He was being ironic ;)
  • Harveys TrainerHarveys Trainer
    [cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]Wether you like it or not, it's a part of socialising, just like the huge amounts of beer sold on matchday. Give us a place to smoke and i would happily go there.

    Like it or not it is illegal in a place of work.

    I would be interest to know how you would feel if your season ticket money was used to pay the fine.

    PS I am a smoker and manage to go two hours without one. Do you seriously not manage to get through 90 minutes without a cigarette every day.
  • tom_ktom_k
    Wasn't starting a debate on the dangers and evils of smoking, nor was I considering smoking in the toilets. Just was curious if people waited or if there was somewhere legal to smoke. I held out for 2 hours incase anyone was wondering.
  • bibblebibble
    I have emailed the club about setting aside an area where I can enjoy my crack pipe. I will post their response when I get it!!!
  • Harveys TrainerHarveys Trainer
    [cite]Posted By: tom- k[/cite]Wasn't starting a debate on the dangers and evils of smoking, nor was I considering smoking in the toilets. Just was curious if people waited or if there was somewhere legal to smoke. I held out for 2 hours incase anyone was wondering.

    I seem to remember when the ban first came in that the club said people would not be allowed to go outside and then come back in. Don't the tickets have the standard declaration about re-admittance which affects this?
  • Sparrows Lane LionSparrows Lane Lion
    Few grounds seem to have done something about it, remember Derby a few years ago would open up the entrances and let people stand in a fenced off area to smoke....Wycombe has a little smoking area outside the gates that has barriers...and Millwall also have a fenced off area outside the home end...aren't there a few "open" areas behind the stands (like the one by the Jimmy Seed) at The Valley where people can smoke?
  • nth_london_addicknth_london_addick
    Derby treated away fans in the best manor i have ever experienced, the way they open that bag part should be standard for all grounds


    Why cant we do something like that


    It shows people that they are not treated like 2nd class people a because they are football fans and b because they smoke
  • southamptonaddicksouthamptonaddick
    Coventry let you go outside for a smoke. They put some temporary fencing around the entrance to the turnstiles.
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  • RedZed333RedZed333
    [cite]cafcAndy said[/cite]
    Either way, yes, in a calm situation i can go hours, but when im drinking added with the stress of watching Charlton, it is nice to go for a quick one.
    Where else can you discuss the merits of half time smoking, drinking and masturbation...?

    Only Charlton...
  • WilmaWilma
    Group of women in the ladies north upper on Saturday huddled in a cubicle smoking. Staff member also using the facilites at the same time was not at all bothered. Was funny watching them sneaking out and trying to pretend it wasn't them though!
  • sillav nitramsillav nitram
    i think people that smoke should be put to sleep, preferably from birth. it's the only language they understand!%-(>
  • tom_ktom_k
    spot the wum
  • southamptonaddicksouthamptonaddick
    [cite]Posted By: sillav nitram[/cite]i think people that smoke should be put to sleep, preferably from birth. it's the only language they understand!%-(>
    [cite]Posted By: andyaddick[/cite]WTF do you do on long flights ? smoking, flithy dirty habbit, should ban the selling of cigs !

    Don't know if either of the above are on wind-ups. But heres my threepenneth. I smoke but I don't drink. So going by whats written above all drinkers should be put to sleep, at birth and the sale of alcohol banned. I haven't noticed many gangs of "smoked up (tobacco only)" yobs starting trouble on a night out but can the same can't be said for those "pissed up" yobs.
  • Harveys TrainerHarveys Trainer
    [cite]Posted By: southamptonaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: sillav nitram[/cite]i think people that smoke should be put to sleep, preferably from birth. it's the only language they understand!%-(>
    [cite]Posted By: andyaddick[/cite]WTF do you do on long flights ? smoking, flithy dirty habbit, should ban the selling of cigs !

    Don't know if either of the above are on wind-ups. But heres my threepenneth. I smoke but I don't drink. So going by whats written above all drinkers should be put to sleep, at birth and the sale of alcohol banned. I haven't noticed many gangs of "smoked up (tobacco only)" yobs starting trouble on a night out but can the same can't be said for those "pissed up" yobs.

    I rally don't want to go down this road (but I will).

    You don't see many bar staff suffering from lung disease because they work in a place where people drink alcohol.
    You don't see massive increases in the number of children with asthma because their parents drink.

    And you don't see the government forced to take action to ban drinking in the way it has seen fit to ban smoking.

    Sorry but you can not win a pro-smoking argument with an anti-drinking one.

    If you want to argue for smoking at least use the pro-choice one.
  • OllywozereOllywozere
    [cite]Posted By: andyaddick[/cite]WTF do you do on long flights ? smoking, flithy dirty habbit, should ban the selling of cigs !
    Have to say I agree. Can't understand why smoking is seen as a sociable thing. Have never been able to understand why people enjoy smoking so much knowing the harm it does to them and how bad it makes them stink. No offence smokers and all that...
  • OllywozereOllywozere
    Fair do's. Honest question though, I've always wondered is why do people take up smoking? It's always seemed to me, particularly in this day and age that it's just because kids want to look cool and it goes from there, which to me seems a bit pathetic. Not fishing for arguments at all, just a genuine question. Why do people start? Any smokers on here, why did you start? I've tried it years ago, thought it was foul. Is it really just a matter of taste?
  • Stu_of_KunmingStu_of_Kunming
    [cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Wasnt aimed at you Olly...understood it was more a question. Just waiting for someone to come up with some smoke-driving argument lol.

    Depends what your smoking mate, then you have an argument.

    Don't see how thats relevant at all, as nobody on the thread has tried to justify driving whilst under the influence of anything.
  • Harveys TrainerHarveys Trainer
    edited August 2010
    All good points Windscreen, I still don't think the anti drinking argument is the best way to win the pro-smoking one.

    The same as you don't win the legalise drugs argument by comparing the dangers of it to drinking.

    I think someone Mum once said "Two wrongs, don't make a right."

    The pro-choice argument is much stronger and much more valid.

    "I don't smoke, and nor do I intend to, but I'm uneasy about a blanket ban because it sets a dangerous precedent about the reach of the state." Lembit Opik, ex Liberal Democrat MP

    "This is not an issue about smoking. It's about freedom. I do not smoke and I do not like going into smoky places, and so I don't. That is my choice. There is no need for more nanny-state government interference." Philip Davies, Conservative MP
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