I get the impression there is a growing reaction amongst a number of our fans that every defeat is going to signal a disaster.
Last season, the runaway champions Norwich won just 2 of their opening 9 league games. Promoted Millwall won just 1 of their opening 7 league games, 2 out of 10 including cups.
Millwall stuck by Kenny Jackett, allowing him to slowly rebuild and recover from their previous season's play-off disappointment.
I'm not saying we will go on runs later this season like Norwich and Millwall did, but i'm certainly not ruling it out either. We have had huge change this summer, huge, and it is going to take time with what is still a small squad to gel and attain match fitness.
Parky was right to ring the changes last night. We have a small squad that currently needs to be carefully nursed. As well as protecting key individuals, the only real way he can learn whether if necessary players like Mambo, Smart and Stavrinou are ably ready is at the sharp end, but it will weigh heavily on budgeting the remaining deals he will have to do. Poor individual mistakes proved costly last night, not the team selection or general play.
There are going to be plenty of setbacks this season, and i expect they'll be some more in the short-term that will disappoint like last night.
But its important we keep it in perspective as it is where we finish in League One in May that ultimately is all that matters this season.
Give this squad a chance to find its feet.
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We won our first 5 league games was it?
We were there or thereabouts nearly the entire season... did it get us anywhere? Nope. Even Leeds, who were ultimately a shade better than us, did their best to throw it away from a supremely commanding position.
Joke i know i dont rate him but he is there now and it will do for me
Otherwise good points well made AFKA but expect the usual "CL is all Rose tinted and saying it's OK to lose 10 game" abuse from elsewhere.
Why is he a wum mate...just because he thinks for himself and has a rational well thought out point of view that differs from the majority on here doesnt mean he's taking the rise.
Agree with the majority view or a Wum or boo boy is it?
All are equal though some more equal than others it seems.
Not possible to go into Admin as has been explained numerous times ;-)
Yeah the odd Nick Gray posts the Rose tinted crap but the majority of those in the minority of us who arent pro parky on here put rational opinions across yet are labelled boo boys or pessimists which surely is akin to optimistic posters being labelled rose tinted?
we have gone round and round this again and again...
who would you bring in...
and also what is your rationale for be anti parky???
Where did i try to make it 'fit the story' ?
What out of what i posted above would you perceive to be jolly ?
What is 'the majority view' though ?
I suspect that the majority view is somewhere balanced in the middle, maybe erred towards being supportive. As far as i can see out of the heavy posters, its only really Mascot and Oggy that consistently adopt the positive stance, so how is that perceived as the majority ?
Why do you think you are in a minority? And does it matter? If they are you views then does it matter if more or less people agree with them?
And yes, people on other sites will ignore all of what AFKA said and twist it to read just what I said.
As fans, how is it our job to put forward better candidates, thats for the board.
I think my dustman is crap, I ring the council and moan that they spill rubbish all over the road, dont put the bins back properly and generally do a lousy job, I don't get told my complaint is not important just because I don't have a shortlist of candidates to take his place.
Bottom line is though rightly or wrongly the board have supported Parky for another season, so we need to get behind him and the team he brings out each week, that doesnt mean people can't question his ability though. It happens at work to everyone other person in the world, why should a football manager be any different?
Mate i have posted numerous times over the past couple of years my rationale for not thinking he is the right bloke. Obviously human nature is to close our minds to things that dont fit our world view and tend to agree with more with what we are comfortable with. So in same way i probably often scroll past parky is great posts then those with opposing opinions scroll past parky is not great posts.
After all that waffle ill answer your question though:
Rationale for anti parky managing Charlton in a nutshell is down to my personal interpretation of his tactics, his motivational ability, his ability to get the best out of a group of players and the fact that he has got a terrible record with us involiving relegation, promotion failure and humiliation against Millwalll twice, Northwich and now Shrewsbury amongst other things.
As for solutions I have said before that my knowledge of football isnt that wide and so I dont know the whos whos and ins and outs of the managerial market. But there are managers out there which other clubs find. Post Swindon would have been the time to bring in a new face as we practically have a new squad so they could have done it there way.
Going forward yes too late now to do anything about it this season but at the same time whilst ill get behind him and the team I wont just accept he is the right man until his teams prove to me with results and on the pitch that he is.
saying that he has started again this season with his squad, his signings his strategy (not that they wernt mostly his players last year) but now there can be no mistaking if it goes tits who is to blame..
ultimately i see this as parkinsons last season we wont go up and i dont believe we will go down,
we will be in the 1st rd of the fa cup in november i think and if we dont take that seriously i will be fooking well annoyed..
i think word of caution to both camps last night was not a disaster by any stretch of imagination but it certainly was not anything that should not be looked into or discussed ask parkinson how he felt on the trip home i bet it wasnt that he didnt give 2 shits because you can bet your life he was well peed off
I think it's more the point of being called a WUM or a booboy just for having an opinion that differs from others.
No one questions Oggies motives when he's being super positive, so why the change when someone is negative?
Anyway no big deal.
How is that different from being called names for seeing any positives?
Rose tinted has as much edge to it as boo boy and both are just used to dismiss someone else's argument without needing to counter it.
i dont like him either parky that is not henners ;-|)
What is achieved by crying over spilt milk?
What can we do? Booing isnt gonna help, and it isnt even remotely warranted considering the IMHO excellent job parky has done overseeing the biggest overhaul of playing staff, possibly, in the clubs history on thru pence hal' penny .... again....
what do you suggest in our stance of not accepting it??
Fair enough but you brought up the issue of being in a minority and how that was somehow to your disadvantage so it clearly is an issue for you.
And your points aren't ignored or dismissed. Some other's agree with them and some others don't. You've not been banned.
I agree that too often valid points and rationale are ignored but as I said above saying "rose tinted" is just as bad for that as saying "boo boy".
And that's fair enough for me (bar the 'motivational ability', none of us know what his motivational skills are like in the dressing room). But by all means judge him on tactics, signings and results, that's what ultimately every one of us does, except some pay more balance to 'other factors' than some others do.
They are though generalised brackets, so lets break it down so that we all understand
personal interpretation of his tactics
which needs expanding. There have been periods over the last 12 months where we've been set out both 442 and 451, largely with the 442, the midfield was set out with one player staying wide and the other wide midfielder playing more narrow, two midfielders pushing on and two (mainly Semedo) holding the centre. When Youga and Richardson were fit, we played with two full backs pushing on, yet with Borrowdale he played a little flatter. Dailly is largely the non-leading centre half with a more dominant player playing tight on the opponent, allowing CD to sweep. Up front we have had two big man, one big man and one in the whole, and one big man and one trying to play behind the defence. What aspects there do you not agree with, would do differently ? I least like the formation with Shelvey playing in the whole off Burton, yet this was our most successful point of last season.
his ability to get the best out of a group of players
So on that basis, that is individuals who should be playing better than they are ? In which case i can only think of two instances, Shelvey and Racon IMO.