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Fans' Forum meets with the Club tonight (Tue 2 March)

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  • Totally agree Stu.
  • Can't we sell Heineken?
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]Bear in mind that it's a real balancing act between getting the ground filled by offering massively discounted prices and upsetting those of us who have already paid full whack.

    i can't imagine many fans complaining about other people getting discounted tickets for the last three games, especially if the boost in the suport helps us get the points we need.

    I can I'm afraid.
  • Do they also post on Fans Views Henry?
  • Plus I'm coming back for the Norwich and Leeds games, so that bring a friend for a tenner scheme sounds amazing ;-)
  • [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Do they also post on Fans Views Henry?
    They may have just had to shell out for a season tickets...
  • most likely.

    Any change in price will be twisted to "the club lied to us, made us renew and then cut the prices, we are desperate for money/to get fans in/blah blah blah."

    Complaining about Charlton is all some people live for
  • [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]Bear in mind that it's a real balancing act between getting the ground filled by offering massively discounted prices and upsetting those of us who have already paid full whack.

    i can't imagine many fans complaining about other people getting discounted tickets for the last three games, especially if the boost in the suport helps us get the points we need.

    I can I'm afraid.

    Sadly I think Henry is more likely to be right. Either way the Club cannot assume that everyone will see the positive side of such an idea ... but I'm hopeful that a way can be found.

    We need to get the ball rolling though, irrespective of whether cheap tickets are available or not. We must all know a couple of people who can be encouraged out for Colchester, Norwich and Leeds. Tell them to dust of their old Redbus shirts and get back in the habit. Buy their ticket for them. They'll get you a beer.
  • I'm pleased the FF took things forward, but in reality its erring towards a case of too little too late in my opinion.

    The Carlisle and Colchester games really should have been the ones for a big push, through the official outlets, word of mouth and the local press, particularly with Carlisle being on a Bank Holiday, From that you would have hoped that the effects of any successful incentive may have had a carry on effect into the two final big games.

    With it in effect being restricted to just Leeds and Norwich, the fact they will sell out the away ends will bring additional issues.

    Bit of a shame.
  • Same arguement could be raised about half-season tickets, the club still sells them.

    To me it sounds like an excuse. A bad one at that.

    Might have been easier had the the club not forced those who want to guarantee thier own seat to renew so early.
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  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]The Carlisle and Colchester games really should have been the ones for a big push, through the official outlets, word of mouth and the local press, particularly with Carlisle being on a Bank Holiday, From that you would have hoped that the effects of any successful incentive may have had a carry on effect into the two final big games.

    This, for me, is exactly why it sounds like an excuse.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]I'm pleased the FF took things forward, but in reality its erring towards a case of too little too late in my opinion.

    The Carlisle and Colchester games really should have been the ones for a big push, through the official outlets, word of mouth and the local press, particularly with Carlisle being on a Bank Holiday, From that you would have hoped that the effects of any successful incentive may have had a carry on effect into the two final big games.

    With it in effect being restricted to just Leeds and Norwich, the fact they will sell out the away ends will bring additional issues.

    Bit of a shame.

    May be true, AFKA, but that's no reason to let things fizzle out. We still have three big home games.

    We need to counter the fact that we are selling out the away ends by filling the empty seats in the home areas. 3,000 away fans stand no chance against 20,000+ of us.
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]The Carlisle and Colchester games really should have been the ones for a big push, through the official outlets, word of mouth and the local press, particularly with Carlisle being on a Bank Holiday, From that you would have hoped that the effects of any successful incentive may have had a carry on effect into the two final big games.

    This, for me, is exactly why it sounds like an excuse.

    Not sure what you mean by 'excuse', Stu? No plans are agreed yet. What is there to have an excuse for?
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]Same arguement could be raised about half-season tickets, the club still sells them.

    Not really. They are no cheaper, game for game, than a full ST.

    Personally with the way the season is shaping up I still expect the gates to rise if there is still something to play for v Col U, Norwich and Leeds discount or no discount.

    There's a Target 40k meeting tomorrow. I imagine Rick has other things on his plate at the moment but I'll try to get a fuller explanation that I can share on here.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    Not sure what you mean by 'excuse', Stu? No plans are agreed yet. What is there to have an excuse for?

    The very fact that no plans are agreed yet, perhaps?

    You do realise it's the 7th of April today.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    May be true, AFKA, but that's no reason to let things fizzle out.

    Its not a case of fizzling out Dave, as nothing has bubbled in the first place !

    That meeting with the club was 36 days ago. Not a single thing eminating from the club in respect to boost either home or away crowds by form of initiatives or ways of getting existing customers on board etc has emerged in that period. It obviously wasn't seen as a priority, which is entirely 'their call', they run the business.

    As said 36 days ago, the time to properly analyse will be in the summer. I just feel there have been a number of wasted opportunities throughout this season.
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    Not sure what you mean by 'excuse', Stu? No plans are agreed yet. What is there to have an excuse for?

    The very fact that no plans are agreed yet, perhaps?

    You do realise it's the 7th of April today.

    Oh, I see. So the post I made earlier today contains an excuse from the Club for not having done anything? Might be better to carry on doing nothing then ... and say nothing. Is that your preference? Or do we continue to pester and to ensure that anything that the Club and/or the Target 40k committee come up with gets our full support?

    It's the 7th April, Stu .... not the 7th May.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]I just feel there have been a number of wasted opportunities throughout this season.

    Can't disagree with that. But the door is not closed. Let's at least make the most of what opportunity remains .... or have I got it wrong? Did I miss the month of April somewhere?
  • Yeah AFKA pretty much summed it up perfecty.

    NOTHING has been done, nothing at all, I personally believe that yes, the post you made earlier today contains an excuse from the Club for not having done anything!


    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]It's the 7th April, Stu .... not the 7th May.

    I know you're probably trying to be funny or something like that, but it's not working, we have no homegames after the 1st May, thats 20something days away. If the club have managed NOTHING in the last 6 days, what really can they throw together in the 10 days before Norwich visit us?
  • edited April 2010
    Don't really see the need for sarcarsm Dave. My 'gripes' are not directed at you.
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  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Don't really see the need for sarcarsm Dave. My 'gripes' are not directed at you.

    I don't really care where the gripes are directed. I just don't see the point of throwing in the towel with almost a month of the season remaining. I'm quite prepared to back off and tell Steve Waggott not to bother and to let the Target 40k committee do their thing tomorrow night, but then wouldn't we all stand accused of doing what the team often seems to do ... ie letting the season end prematurely?

    Sure things could have been done quicker. Fair point. Let's agree that ... but then let's get on with it. Or is no one really bothered?
  • edited April 2010
    Difficult one this.

    For some of us the commitment of a season ticket is just that and involves a lot of financial juggling to pay for it.

    In those circumstances you cannot blame people being annoyed if tickets for the most crucial games of the season are offered at discounted rates when they have shelled out, two months earlier than usual don't forget, for season tickets as well as facing winter gas and electricity bills.

    The commitment of a season ticket, namely the Club having our money up front, should surely in turn lead to benefits for season ticket holders too?

    I don't go to many away games but if, hypothetically, I wanted to go to Exeter I cannot because, even though I'm a season ticket holder, I've not been to 4 away games and thus am not eligible.

    For myself, providing the subsidised fans are proper supporters rather than boo boys, I'd rather see a full ground but I wouldn't condemn those who see it as the thin end of the wedge.
  • any season ticket holder that didn't support an initiative to boost support with the aim of giving our promotion run in every chance, is mental - FACT!
  • [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    I just don't see the point of throwing in the towel with almost a month of the season remaining.

    You are completely missing my point. Its not a case in anyone 'throwing in the towel', i'm not even sure what the towel is that you are reffering to ??

    The point was that if the club were going to launch any strategic plans or initiatives to try and boost attendances / income, then the more likely targets should have been Carlisle and Colchester, where away attendances would have been small and home ticket sales muted, as opposed to the final two fixtures of the season which are already attarctive enough fixtures for home supporters, and will attract large away followings. And where any initiatives will become complicated by the fact there is likely to be away fans trying to get home tickets.
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite] Or is no one really bothered?

    Bothered about what ? That doesn't even make sense. The majority of people on here are not the primary target audience.
  • I don't see too many complaining IF it's explained properly to them. Do it with no explanation then yes some will moan. However, it is too late now. The Narwich game is too soon to get things organised and publicised and the Leeds game should sell itself.
  • edited April 2010
    I think you and I are on a different wavelength with this one, AFKA.

    If you are confident that we'll have a full house for Colchester, Norwich and Leeds, then there is nothing to do. We'll let the team do its best and hope that our increased numbers can counteract the passion that 3,000 away fans will bring (OK, maybe Colchester won't bring 3,000, but you get my point). Me ... I'm not convinced.

    Alternatively we can encourage the Club to try to ensure that we get a full stadium, maybe with discounted tickets prices etc. But prices alone will not do the trick - we need Charlton fans there ... fans that we all know. That's where we come in. If we do nothing, that's what I mean by 'throwing in the towel' or not being bothered. Hope that makes more sense.

    The majority of people on here may or may not be the target audience, but they are a means of communication to the missing thousands (part of the 'word of mouth' that you referred to earlier).

    I'll leave things at that. I'm beginning to regret stirring things up again with Steve Waggott last night, but I'm sure that the Target 40k committee will take things on board at their meeting tomorrow night, courtesy of Henry.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]I'll leave things at that. I'm beginning to regret stirring things up again with Steve Waggott last night

    Does it not worry you that you needed to stir it up, despite bringing it up over a month ago.


    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]However, it is too late now. The Narwich game is too soon to get things organised and publicised and the Leeds game should sell itself.

    Spot on.
  • edited April 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]I'll leave things at that. I'm beginning to regret stirring things up again with Steve Waggott last night

    Does it not worry you that you needed to stir it up, despite bringing it up over a month ago.

    Yes. But that's no reason not to stir things up anyway.
  • Nobody is moaning about the fact you are though.

    I can only speak for myself and for me it is very alarming that over the last month the club has done nothing at all to try and get people to these games, even a letter/email to ex-season ticket holders mights get a few extra bums in seats but they havnt even managed that.
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]Nobody is moaning about the fact you are though.

    I can only speak for myself and for me it is very alarming that over the last month the club has done nothing at all to try and get people to these games, even a letter/email to ex-season ticket holders mights get a few extra bums in seats but they havnt even managed that.
    I agree, we used to often get letters and e-mails about bring a friend along.

    Keep up the good work Dave, I imagine it can't be an easy task.
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