[cite]Posted By: RodneyCharltonTrotta[/cite]Parkinson saying the equaliser was dubious. Is it me or is he sounding more london in his accent each week? Hes been watching that Steve mcClaren video.
Why is it I find myself nodding to PP but used to roll my eyes listening to Pardew.... and doze off listening to Curbs :-)
[quote][cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]May not be top anymore but it needs to be understood that the league season is a marathon not a sprint. We've taken two draws from arguably 2 of the strongest squads in the league, whereas Leeds who are now above us have yet to face that sort of test.
Still unbeaten and going well.[/quote]
[quote][cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]May not be top anymore but it needs to be understood that the league season is a marathon not a sprint. We've taken two draws from arguably 2 of the strongest squads in the league, whereas Leeds who are now above us have yet to face that sort of test.
First game iv missed either being there or listening, just read the entire thread seems like it was a good point, disappointed with conceeding so late on but i'd always take a point away at norwich.
Still unbeaten, hopefully we get a good perfromance and win next week against exeter then off to leeds full of confidence for a real teaster against the league favourites.
[cite]Posted By: RodneyCharltonTrotta[/cite]Parkinson saying the equaliser was dubious. Is it me or is he sounding more london in his accent each week? Hes been watching that Steve mcClaren video.
Why is it I find myself nodding to PP but used to roll my eyes listening to Pardew.... and doze off listening to Curbs :-)
where are yu listening
Sorry Mascot - they interviewed Parky on BBC London just after the final whistle.
normally i would not care whether we finish first or second as it's achieving our ultimate goal for the season. However, i effing loathe Leeds so i cannot wait forr them to drop points at MK away when we are beating Exeter at home! It would be good i think to get the win next week, get the 'winning mentality' back, as followed by two tough away games. Still, a great start, and as someone posted, 4 points ahead of target!
There was a carriage load of their fans their spotty faced little supporters (non scarfers) banging the window at Charlton and chanting scum as the train pulled up on Saturday (presumably coming back from Gillingham). Is this another poor firm of little boys that our lot have developed a rivalry with? If these people (both sides are equally weak individuals) want a fight, there are so many places that they can get one. Why do they insist on acting up in front of scarfers when the polis are around in numbers?
Absosule pathetic punnishments for what I herd was nothing. Police just trying to justify the millions of pounds they get given each year for football. Peopple get 3 year bans for just drinking in certain pubs or even with certain people. You wouldnt believe it untill you see it.
Yes mate i am and you wouldnt belive it untill you actually see this shit. A mate was banned for being seen at about five games last season two of which he attended with his dad. Now has to go to police station a 4/5 days before england play to put his passport in and then sign in a couple of hours before the game kicks off. Not allowed in Charlton 4 hours before a game and 4 after either.
SE9 why bother ? we know that these people where giventhe choice of pleading guilty to what was really "insulting words" and the OB will make sure they dont get sent down for Xmas or plead not guilty and take your chnace. All have kids so they pleaded guilty.
no blows where exchanged----- only insults across 30 M of seats after an injury time goal was scored against us.
The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull.
How many from here was in the pub by the river ? why bother sayng in court "risk element " where seen in that pub -- but there was no trouble ?
if they follow what happened through against Norwich re Millwall ALL 3,000 Nillwall "fans" will be nicked---------------actually !!!
[quote][cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]SE9 why bother ? we know that these people where giventhe choice of pleading guilty to what was really "insulting words" and the OB will make sure they dont get sent down for Xmas or plead not guilty and take your chnace. All have kids so they pleaded guilty.
no blows where exchanged----- only insults across 30 M of seats after an injury time goal was scored against us.
The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull.
The only reason they all got nicked is because they needed to justify the budget they get for banning orders. You know and I know that if there was no such things as banning orders they would not have got to court. Others that went back and pleaded not guilty have to go back in Feb and the judge actually said to the police that they have got to get there act together when they go back as she didnt think the charges were relevent.
[quote][cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: SE9[/cite] A mate was banned for being seen at about five games last season two of which he attended with his dad. [/quote]
'Being seen'
What do you mean?
The police don't arrest all visible people or everyone except the invisible man would be arrested.[/quote]
I mean he was seen drinking in the a pub by the football intellegance officers. Minding his own buisness just having a drink. It says it on in the report when they took him to court. Doesnt say he had done even done anything.
[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]SE9 why bother ? we know that these people where giventhe choice of pleading guilty to what was really "insulting words" and the OB will make sure they dont get sent down for Xmas or plead not guilty and take your chnace. All have kids so they pleaded guilty.
no blows where exchanged
only insults across 30 M of seats after an injury time goal was scored against us.
The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull.
The only reason they all got nicked is because they needed to justify the budget they get for banning orders. You know and I know that if there was no such things as banning orders they would not have got to court.
Others that went back and pleaded not guilty have to go back in Feb and the judge actually said to the police that they have got to get there act together when they go back as she didnt think the charges were relevent.
Perhaps you want to carefully read this bit from the link:
"Five Charlton Athletic fans pleaded guilty to threatening behaviour and one fan to throwing an object towards Norwich supporters...."
So five Charlton fans admitted guilt - note they did not plead "not guilty" and were then convicted in some travesty of justice.
"The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull."
Letting forth a volley anglo-saxon invective is one thing, directing it at opposing fans and also throwing objects at them is a totally different matter. You are capable of appreciating the difference aren't you?
We don't need "fans" like this following Charlton - for one thing it makes it harder on those of us who are quite capable of following Charlton without indulging in criminal behaviour to be treated as adults, and we don't need apologists for the behaviour either, especially after they admit guilt.
Perhaps you want to carefully read this bit from the link:
"Five Charlton Athletic fans pleaded guilty to threatening behaviour and one fan to throwing an object towards Norwich supporters...."
So five Charlton fans admitted guilt - note they did not plead "not guilty" and were then convicted in some travesty of justice.
Letting forth a volley anglo-saxon invective is one thing, directing it at opposing fans and also throwing objects at them is a totally different matter. You are capable of appreciating the difference aren't you?
We don't need "fans" like this following Charlton - for one thing it makes it harder on those of us who are quite capable of following Charlton without indulging in criminal behaviour to be treated as adults, and we don't need apologists for the behaviour either, especially after they admit guilt.[/quote][/quote]
Or maybe they just pleaded guilty to save themselves from having to return to court for a trial and wasting time and money traveling up to norwich?? I got arrested for being drunk inside a football stadium when we played norwich a few years ago. I said to the judge at the time that the only reson I am pleading guilty is so I dont have to come back up to norwich for a trial and waste my money. It was just easy to plead guilty.
Or maybe they just pleaded guilty to save themselves from having to return to court for a trial and wasting time and money traveling up to norwich?? I got arrested for being drunk inside a football stadium when we played norwich a few years ago. I said to the judge at the time that the only reson I am pleading guilty is so I dont have to come back up to norwich for a trial and waste my money. It was just easy to plead guilty.
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They pleaded guilty because...they were guilty, not because they wanted to save themselves the hassle of another trek to Norwich or out of some new found civic desire to save the tax-payer a bit of cash.
Read the article again - they charged across a cordoned off area to hurl abuse at opposing fans and did so while being filmed on CCTV, I suppose you could add stupidity to their charges. Whatever it'd take some barrister to extricate them from that kind of evidence.
[cite]Posted By: SE9[/cite]I have read the article and spoke to the people invoved to I think I would be in a better position than that newspaper.
Yeah you're right, butter wouldn't melt in their mouths, they are lovely lads and always remember their mother's birthday and help old dears across the road and this is a total stitch up by the police.
That newspaper is reporting factually that five Charlton fans pleaded guilty - nothing more and has pointed out that CCTV showed them charging across a sectioned off area and one pleaded guilty to throwing something at the Norwich fans.
I'm not sure where you are trying to take this but these five - admitted guilt. If you want to accept a criminal record and the risk of a prison sentence when you are totally innocent then that's up to you, it isn't one I'd take, but then I wouldn't go charging across a sectioned off area to hurl abuse at other fans under the full glare of CCTV, people might just mis-represent that as threatening behaviour, I can't for the life of me think why...
[cite]Posted By: SE9[/cite]I have read the article and spoke to the people invoved to I think I would be in a better position than that newspaper.
Yeah you're right, butter wouldn't melt in their mouths, they are lovely lads and always remember their mother's birthday and help old dears across the road and this is a total stitch up by the police.
That newspaper is reporting factually that five Charlton fans pleaded guilty - nothing more and has pointed out that CCTV showed them charging across a sectioned off area and one pleaded guilty to throwing something at the Norwich fans.
I'm not sure where you are trying to take this but these five - admitted guilt. If you want to accept a criminal record and the risk of a prison sentence when you are totally innocent then that's up to you, it isn't one I'd take, but then I wouldn't go charging across a sectioned off area to hurl abuse at other fans under the full glare of CCTV, people might just mis-represent that as threatening behaviour, I can't for the life of me think why...
It must be really difficult to spend your whole life being perfect BFR.
I can't believe that, apart from BFR of course, any other person on here hasn't been in a position where, in the heat of the moment, they may have done something they wouldn't normally do. What SE9 is, I think, trying to say is that if this behaviour had been anywhere else except at a football match then nobody would have been arrested and the police would probably just moved people on. I'm not saying these five are angels, I don't even know them, but I have known people who have been given banning orders simply for talking to what could be described as the "unruly element". I think it's called "guilty by association".
Think back to a couple of seasons ago where letters were sent to pepole advising them not to attend the Palarse game even though some, not all, had never even been arrested, charged or found guilty of any offence.
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Still unbeaten and going well.[/quote]
[quote][cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]May not be top anymore but it needs to be understood that the league season is a marathon not a sprint. We've taken two draws from arguably 2 of the strongest squads in the league, whereas Leeds who are now above us have yet to face that sort of test.
Still unbeaten and going well.[/quote]
Bang on Callum.
Still unbeaten, hopefully we get a good perfromance and win next week against exeter then off to leeds full of confidence for a real teaster against the league favourites.
oh yeah doh, that was leeds with 22 not us!!
Sorry Mascot - they interviewed Parky on BBC London just after the final whistle.
Agree with Chicago 100% that at 3pm 2-2 would have been good but sad we couln't hold on for the win.
Link removed from original post following request by fellow lifer.
no blows where exchanged----- only insults across 30 M of seats after an injury time goal was scored against us.
The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull.
How many from here was in the pub by the river ? why bother sayng in court "risk element " where seen in that pub -- but there was no trouble ?
if they follow what happened through against Norwich re Millwall ALL 3,000 Nillwall "fans" will be nicked---------------actually !!!
no blows where exchanged----- only insults across 30 M of seats after an injury time goal was scored against us.
The holly joes want to think on this. Next time when someone scores against CAFC and you let forth with a stream of swear words or givea vee sign or wan**ers sign it just might be you they pull.
The only reason they all got nicked is because they needed to justify the budget they get for banning orders. You know and I know that if there was no such things as banning orders they would not have got to court.
Others that went back and pleaded not guilty have to go back in Feb and the judge actually said to the police that they have got to get there act together when they go back as she didnt think the charges were relevent.
AFKA can we torpedo this re the above -- you know why im asking--- ta.
'Being seen'
What do you mean?
The police don't arrest all visible people or everyone except the invisible man would be arrested.
A mate was banned for being seen at about five games last season two of which he attended with his dad.
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'Being seen'
What do you mean?
The police don't arrest all visible people or everyone except the invisible man would be arrested.[/quote]
I mean he was seen drinking in the a pub by the football intellegance officers. Minding his own buisness just having a drink. It says it on in the report when they took him to court. Doesnt say he had done even done anything.
The band on here should lay off posting the link.
Sorry to hear what was dished out by norwich ob chaps
"Five Charlton Athletic fans pleaded guilty to threatening behaviour and one fan to throwing an object towards Norwich supporters...."
So five Charlton fans admitted guilt - note they did not plead "not guilty" and were then convicted in some travesty of justice.
Letting forth a volley anglo-saxon invective is one thing, directing it at opposing fans and also throwing objects at them is a totally different matter. You are capable of appreciating the difference aren't you?
We don't need "fans" like this following Charlton - for one thing it makes it harder on those of us who are quite capable of following Charlton without indulging in criminal behaviour to be treated as adults, and we don't need apologists for the behaviour either, especially after they admit guilt.[/quote][/quote]
Or maybe they just pleaded guilty to save themselves from having to return to court for a trial and wasting time and money traveling up to norwich?? I got arrested for being drunk inside a football stadium when we played norwich a few years ago. I said to the judge at the time that the only reson I am pleading guilty is so I dont have to come back up to norwich for a trial and waste my money. It was just easy to plead guilty.
...........
They pleaded guilty because...they were guilty, not because they wanted to save themselves the hassle of another trek to Norwich or out of some new found civic desire to save the tax-payer a bit of cash.
Read the article again - they charged across a cordoned off area to hurl abuse at opposing fans and did so while being filmed on CCTV, I suppose you could add stupidity to their charges. Whatever it'd take some barrister to extricate them from that kind of evidence.
Yeah you're right, butter wouldn't melt in their mouths, they are lovely lads and always remember their mother's birthday and help old dears across the road and this is a total stitch up by the police.
That newspaper is reporting factually that five Charlton fans pleaded guilty - nothing more and has pointed out that CCTV showed them charging across a sectioned off area and one pleaded guilty to throwing something at the Norwich fans.
I'm not sure where you are trying to take this but these five - admitted guilt. If you want to accept a criminal record and the risk of a prison sentence when you are totally innocent then that's up to you, it isn't one I'd take, but then I wouldn't go charging across a sectioned off area to hurl abuse at other fans under the full glare of CCTV, people might just mis-represent that as threatening behaviour, I can't for the life of me think why...
It must be really difficult to spend your whole life being perfect BFR.
I can't believe that, apart from BFR of course, any other person on here hasn't been in a position where, in the heat of the moment, they may have done something they wouldn't normally do. What SE9 is, I think, trying to say is that if this behaviour had been anywhere else except at a football match then nobody would have been arrested and the police would probably just moved people on. I'm not saying these five are angels, I don't even know them, but I have known people who have been given banning orders simply for talking to what could be described as the "unruly element". I think it's called "guilty by association".
Think back to a couple of seasons ago where letters were sent to pepole advising them not to attend the Palarse game even though some, not all, had never even been arrested, charged or found guilty of any offence.