Thanks for that Rick, is that the club's offical line then?
Personally I'm not bothered about the actual cost, In fact I wouldn't have blamed the directors if the prices had stayed as is as we can hardly afford to further reduce the revenue. it's just the way it came across and the lack of an explanation in the press relaease.
[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]The season-ticket price in the lower north has nothing to do with the matchday price. We tried to create a price incentive there last year by making it relatively cheap, but there wasn't much evidence that people moved in off the back of it. In fact, one of the big trends last summer was migration to dearer seats that became available as some of the PL season-ticket holders disappeared.
The club would have liked to have had a lower price for everyone this time, but it was felt that at £12.60 a game the lower north was already good value and we needed to target further savings at U18s and families in particular.
One thing I have learned over the years is that there is no right answer to setting the prices and you're never completely sure if you got it right, even after the event. However, along with others I only advise, so the credit (or the blame) belongs to the directors!
Think you are being a bit modest there Rick. You put a lot of time and effort into providing alternatives and justifications.
Sure the board say yes or no and so deserve credit, IMHO, for taking this option but so do you and the rest of the Target 40k committee, Fans Forum and others who made suggestions to them.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]it doesn't say whether these prices are for Championship or League 1 football so if we stay up they will represent excellant value.
You rose tinted optimists make me laugh. We're going down, face it.
[cite]Posted By: C_f_W[/cite]Thanks for that Rick, is that the club's offical line then?
Personally I'm not bothered about the actual cost, In fact I wouldn't have blamed the directors if the prices had stayed as is as we can hardly afford to further reduce the revenue. it's just the way it came across and the lack of an explanation in the press relaease.
I don't know about official but it's what I know. I don't think the press release is the place to cover off all the detail and of course the club wants to highlight the positive messages, but we do recognise there is more to say. Watch this space (or rather that one)!
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]it doesn't say whether these prices are for Championship or League 1 football so if we stay up they will represent excellant value.
Either way i would have bought a season ticket, i will make sure my mates get one two, if we are proper fans now is the time to get a season ticket, not when we are seeing thierri henry and ronaldo at the valley.
The more tickets we sell this year the more chance we have of avoiding further debt and a better chance of bringing our club back from the death.
So are the club stating that for the East stand Block C for example, every match day ticket will be £25. Or is that the average price ?
£25 to see us versus Crewe or Carlisle !!!
Or if less, then £30 against Millwall and Orient ? - This is League One ......
"The club is guaranteeing that every adult ticket will be at least £100 cheaper than purchasing the same seat on a match-by-match basis."
Not convinced by that statement at the moment.
I will be going but will seriously consider on a match by match basis and sitting elsewhere in the stadium. I can't believe the club will be charging £25 for the lower North for every game. The table suggests the cheapest place to sit on a match by match basis is the Upper North at an average of £17
I will not be paying £25 to £30 to watch on a one off basis and I doubt they will attract many people to do so. I paid £24 to watch England last night for a full international (excluding Ticketmaster rip-off fees)
[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Not bad - I suspect that are hoping that the £49 under 11's will be snapped up along with an adult ticket.
Ha ha you would've thought so as i doubt there's too many under 11s who get up on a saturday morning, ring their mate and trot off down to the Valley together.
[quote][cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]Should have chucked in some free Johnstone s Pint Trophy home tickets with the £25 reduction.[/quote] They should make the ties £5 and quid a kid, I don't want to see less than 3k at the valley.
I'll give the club my extra 50 quid if they move "Numbnuts" from the row behind me
But BIG serious "Well Done" to the board for making it possible to have a season ticket next year, just got to wait and see if the Giro will stretch to now
I Sit in the Covered End ( can we still call it that ) , lower bit so my season ticket stays the same yet we are in a lower division . Can someone tell me why that is ?
This was what Airman Brown (Rick) said on page 1 :-
The season-ticket price in the lower north has nothing to do with the matchday price. We tried to create a price incentive there last year by making it relatively cheap, but there wasn't much evidence that people moved in off the back of it. In fact, one of the big trends last summer was migration to dearer seats that became available as some of the PL season-ticket holders disappeared.
The club would have liked to have had a lower price for everyone this time, but it was felt that at £12.60 a game the lower north was already good value and we needed to target further savings at U18s and families in particular.
One thing I have learned over the years is that there is no right answer to setting the prices and you're never completely sure if you got it right, even after the event. However, along with others I only advise, so the credit (or the blame) belongs to the directors!
Season ticket prices look good, but individual prices are a complete and utter rip off. From the table on the OS the AVERAGE price for lower north tickets next season is £25, which is simply outrageous in League 1. I'm not renewing because at the moment £290 is a lot of money that I can't afford and I'll likely to have missed 8 games by the end of this season (some through work, some through cricket and a couple because it was simply too depressing). So my plan next year was to go to around 16 homes games and try to get to 4 aways. £25 a pop for 16 homes games is £400! This will almost guarantee me coming to only a handful (or even fewer) home games next year, so well done Charlton, having been to around 90%+ of home games since the return you're now driving me away by charging prem prices for league 1 football.
[quote] I will be going but will seriously consider on a match by match basis and sitting elsewhere in the stadium. I can't believe the club will be charging £25 for the lower North for every game. The table suggests the cheapest place to sit on a match by match basis is the Upper North at an average of £17
I must be missing something here.[/quote]
Sure this has been answered elsewhere but the reason the average matchday price for the Lower North is so high (£25) is because we aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans for equivalent seats, i.e. in the Jimmy Seed Stand. The board have presumably decided that they are willing to sacrifice matchday sales in the Lower North in order to be able to charge what they want to away fans.
In practice, this means that when we play the likes of Leeds or Millwall who are likely to bring sizeable support regardless of the ticket price, a ticket in the Lower North will cost £25 - £30 so that we can charge the same amount to away fans. No Charlton fans will buy matchday tickets in the Lower North for those games because they'll be able to sit somewhere else in the ground for £15 - £20 and laugh at all the knuckledraggers in the away end who've had to stump up an entire week's benefits to come to their cup final.
Makes good business sense to me, presuming that my understanding is correct.
[quote][cite]so well done Charlton, having been to around 90%+ of home games since the return you're now driving me away by charging prem prices for league 1 football.[/quote]
They are not charging prem prices for league 1 football. You were paying league 2 prices to watch prem football with Sky TV money subsidising this.
A seated season ticket to watch Barnet in the lower half of League 2 this season cost £299 while Portsmouth were charging £620.
Of course, we could let everyone in for a fiver to keep people like you happy, but then we'd be in administration before next season started. What would you prefer?
[cite]Posted By: randy andy[/cite]Season ticket prices look good, but individual prices are a complete and utter rip off. From the table on the OS the AVERAGE price for lower north tickets next season is £25, which is simply outrageous in League 1. I'm not renewing because at the moment £290 is a lot of money that I can't afford and I'll likely to have missed 8 games by the end of this season (some through work, some through cricket and a couple because it was simply too depressing). So my plan next year was to go to around 16 homes games and try to get to 4 aways. £25 a pop for 16 homes games is £400! This will almost guarantee me coming to only a handful (or even fewer) home games next year, so well done Charlton, having been to around 90%+ of home games since the return you're now driving me away by charging prem prices for league 1 football.
So you should get a S/T for £290. Even if you only go to 16 games that works out at £18 per game. If you go to 23 games it works out at less than £13 per game.
I thought the club offered a finance deal to spread the cost over a season if you can't afford £290 up front. If the club don't offer finance then what about credit cards (interest free if possible) or a loan ?
Anyway they are not driving you away. The matchday prices are not higher than in the Prem and overall will probably be lower. So if you don't go, it is because you choose not to support us in Div 3, unless they reduce match day prices further.
There is a difference between choosing not to go and not being able to afford to go.
If it's affordability then it doesn't matter whether we are in The Prem or Div 3.
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Personally I'm not bothered about the actual cost, In fact I wouldn't have blamed the directors if the prices had stayed as is as we can hardly afford to further reduce the revenue. it's just the way it came across and the lack of an explanation in the press relaease.
Think you are being a bit modest there Rick. You put a lot of time and effort into providing alternatives and justifications.
Sure the board say yes or no and so deserve credit, IMHO, for taking this option but so do you and the rest of the Target 40k committee, Fans Forum and others who made suggestions to them.
You rose tinted optimists make me laugh. We're going down, face it.
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because they can and because they serial bleeding moaners. LOL
I don't know about official but it's what I know. I don't think the press release is the place to cover off all the detail and of course the club wants to highlight the positive messages, but we do recognise there is more to say. Watch this space (or rather that one)!
The more tickets we sell this year the more chance we have of avoiding further debt and a better chance of bringing our club back from the death.
This has got to be the main driver to get the families in.
£25 to see us versus Crewe or Carlisle !!!
Or if less, then £30 against Millwall and Orient ? - This is League One ......
"The club is guaranteeing that every adult ticket will be at least £100 cheaper than purchasing the same seat on a match-by-match basis."
Not convinced by that statement at the moment.
I will be going but will seriously consider on a match by match basis and sitting elsewhere in the stadium. I can't believe the club will be charging £25 for the lower North for every game. The table suggests the cheapest place to sit on a match by match basis is the Upper North at an average of £17
I will not be paying £25 to £30 to watch on a one off basis and I doubt they will attract many people to do so. I paid £24 to watch England last night for a full international (excluding Ticketmaster rip-off fees)
I must be missing something here.
Ha ha you would've thought so as i doubt there's too many under 11s who get up on a saturday morning, ring their mate and trot off down to the Valley together.
Say two FA cup games and two Auto windshields games?
from the os page on tickets, loving the reaction of the two blokes down the front...
Where's my free League 2 ticket if we get relegated though!
Also does it include a free ticket if we get promoted?
They should make the ties £5 and quid a kid, I don't want to see less than 3k at the valley.
But BIG serious "Well Done" to the board for making it possible to have a season ticket next year, just got to wait and see if the Giro will stretch to now
The season-ticket price in the lower north has nothing to do with the matchday price. We tried to create a price incentive there last year by making it relatively cheap, but there wasn't much evidence that people moved in off the back of it. In fact, one of the big trends last summer was migration to dearer seats that became available as some of the PL season-ticket holders disappeared.
The club would have liked to have had a lower price for everyone this time, but it was felt that at £12.60 a game the lower north was already good value and we needed to target further savings at U18s and families in particular.
One thing I have learned over the years is that there is no right answer to setting the prices and you're never completely sure if you got it right, even after the event. However, along with others I only advise, so the credit (or the blame) belongs to the directors!
Hopfully a few maybes this would change there minds and renew
I must be missing something here.[/quote]
Sure this has been answered elsewhere but the reason the average matchday price for the Lower North is so high (£25) is because we aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans for equivalent seats, i.e. in the Jimmy Seed Stand. The board have presumably decided that they are willing to sacrifice matchday sales in the Lower North in order to be able to charge what they want to away fans.
In practice, this means that when we play the likes of Leeds or Millwall who are likely to bring sizeable support regardless of the ticket price, a ticket in the Lower North will cost £25 - £30 so that we can charge the same amount to away fans. No Charlton fans will buy matchday tickets in the Lower North for those games because they'll be able to sit somewhere else in the ground for £15 - £20 and laugh at all the knuckledraggers in the away end who've had to stump up an entire week's benefits to come to their cup final.
Makes good business sense to me, presuming that my understanding is correct.
They are not charging prem prices for league 1 football. You were paying league 2 prices to watch prem football with Sky TV money subsidising this.
A seated season ticket to watch Barnet in the lower half of League 2 this season cost £299 while Portsmouth were charging £620.
Of course, we could let everyone in for a fiver to keep people like you happy, but then we'd be in administration before next season started. What would you prefer?
So you should get a S/T for £290. Even if you only go to 16 games that works out at £18 per game. If you go to 23 games it works out at less than £13 per game.
I thought the club offered a finance deal to spread the cost over a season if you can't afford £290 up front. If the club don't offer finance then what about credit cards (interest free if possible) or a loan ?
Anyway they are not driving you away. The matchday prices are not higher than in the Prem and overall will probably be lower. So if you don't go, it is because you choose not to support us in Div 3, unless they reduce match day prices further.
There is a difference between choosing not to go and not being able to afford to go.
If it's affordability then it doesn't matter whether we are in The Prem or Div 3.