Unless we intend to bring somebody else in, why are we offloading him, even if he has asked for a transfer.
Our strikers
1. Burton - decent enough footballer but can't score for toffees (and that's not just for us)
2. Gray - apart from his penalties, he has scored very few goals
3. Todorov - serially unfit, can't last for more than twenty minutes
4. McLeod - never really given a serious chance. Now gone to boost Smallwalls promotion bid
5. Dickson - scored 11 in 14 for the Gills yet not trusted with a start for us
Have I jumped into a parallel universe or is something seriously wrong somewhere? I could cope with things if Gray and Burton were knocking them in for fun but the opposite is true.
[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Unless we intend to bring somebody else in, why are we offloading him, even if he has asked for a transfer.
Our strikers
1. Burton - decent enough footballer but can't score for toffees (and that's not just for us)
2. Gray - apart from his penalties, he has scored very few goals
3. Todorov - serially unfit, can't last for more than twenty minutes
4. McLeod - never really given a serious chance. Now gone to boost Smallwalls promotion bid
5. Dickson - scored 11 in 14 for the Gills yet not trusted with a start for us
Have I jumped into a parallel universe or is something seriously wrong somewhere. I could cope with things if Gray and Burton were knocking them in for fun but the opposite is true.
The whole thing is depressing and incomprehensible in equal measure.
We were told to "hush" a few weeks back when suggesting that this isnt right, and those great men who watch training every weeek really know better. That BS we cant even attempt to stay up unless we can score goals----------- we need to win 10/11 games not draw.
It just doesn't make sense to me either if he scored all those goals at the Gills...maybe its more of a personality thing as I have heard he is cocky......
[quote][cite]Posted By: Stu of HU16[/cite]Dickson did more in the first 10mins he was on the pitch on saturday than Gray did in the entire game.[/quote] I totally agree with this, but to be fair Dickson was being played as part of a two man front line. To be fair to Gray, he was isolated by Parky's mental tactics.
For all we know he may just not be able to cut it in this league, but at least if he'd been given a fair crack we'd know. Whenever he's come on he's looked the best of what we have. It's depressing and baffling in equal measure/
[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]We were told to "hush" a few weeks back when suggesting that this isnt right, and those great men who watch training every weeek really know better. That BS we cant even attempt to stay up unless we can score goals
we need to win 10/11 games not draw.
Agree with all the above. And MW get promoted with the help of Mcleod, is he going to want to return to a League 1 side, I think not. As for Dickson his treatment is as baffling to me as it is to everyone else. Agree with Stu of HU16, it beggars belief that he didn't either start or come on at half time, Gray was hopeless, but to be fair he was surrounded by two or three defenders everytime he got the ball, but to continue with 4-5-1 when already 2-0 down, seemed crazy, we didn't look like scoring. Ok we did score, but only with long strike which 9 times out of 10 will end on row Z. Altogether a thoroughly miserable day.
This debate has gone on for months. No one will know why Pardew and now Parky have refused to give him some starts untill they give us a reason. "He's not good enough" wont do. None of the others are good enough, but they still get picked every week.
Dickson should now start each game as all our other strikers are not scoring. We have nothing to lose now by playing him. If he plays he will stay and might even score some goals and if/when we do go down he will score over 20 next season in div1.
Anyway what do us fans know the management knows best LOL!
I cannot get my head around this - have struggled since we signed him.
What is the point in signing him - they must have known he was cocky. He's a striker - they tend to be cocky and greedy. It's why they are strikers and poachers.
He is naturally - AND STATISTICALLY - the most potent striker we have at any level and he is overlooked.
Parky said before Christmas that he would play an important role in the Christmas period - I believe he managed 14 minutes!
Andy Gray does not deserve to be on the park, Toddy is a cripple, Waggy needs to be 1 of 2 up front or play in the hole.
if we are to jeopardise our position even further by the ego and arrogance of not one but two managers who seem to have problems with him then it's game over. It doesn't matter if he sits on the 6 yard line for 90 minutes acting cocky so long as he scores goals
Dicko is in talks as we speak i fear we may not see him again ;-( i am only hoping that they are loan deals not fulltime
if they are full time the club is as foolish as can be as we will have to buy a striker next year who will proberly come from League 2 to fire us out of league 1
If he is sold I will absolutely livid if we do not get a direct replacement ASAP.
I am truly fucked off with driving 150 mile round trips to watch that excuse for management screw this up any more. I am sure there must be someone out there who applied for the job, would not cost the earth and is still available. I couldn't give 2 shits if Dicko has an attitude - at least when he comes on there is a buzz - the crowd get excited, he gees the fans up - how many of our players generate that kind of interest (Shelvey is the only one who springs to mind and he'll be out of here quicker than you can say "We've turned the corner" - there is no fucking corner - we are on a spiral roundabout without corners and we are going down and down and down.)
We need a striker NOW. Someone who will put himself about a bit, rough people up and work hard - but ideally who knows where the net is too
Deon "1 in 29" Burton isn't good enough
Andy Gray isn't good enough (don't give me the bollocks of he needs the service - he is lazy, immobile, slow and not a poacher)
Toddy - Cripple
Waggy - Great potential - but not what we need right now
It takes a lot to really piss me off but Christ almighty are this club pushing my buttons right now
End of rant - I need some fresh air while my keyboard recovers from the pounding I just gave it
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Our strikers
1. Burton - decent enough footballer but can't score for toffees (and that's not just for us)
2. Gray - apart from his penalties, he has scored very few goals
3. Todorov - serially unfit, can't last for more than twenty minutes
4. McLeod - never really given a serious chance. Now gone to boost Smallwalls promotion bid
5. Dickson - scored 11 in 14 for the Gills yet not trusted with a start for us
Have I jumped into a parallel universe or is something seriously wrong somewhere? I could cope with things if Gray and Burton were knocking them in for fun but the opposite is true.
The whole thing is depressing and incomprehensible in equal measure.
I totally agree with this, but to be fair Dickson was being played as part of a two man front line. To be fair to Gray, he was isolated by Parky's mental tactics.
For all we know he may just not be able to cut it in this league, but at least if he'd been given a fair crack we'd know. Whenever he's come on he's looked the best of what we have. It's depressing and baffling in equal measure/
What was said and who are these great men??
I mean, the results speak for themselves.
Anyway what do us fans know the management knows best LOL!
Pretty sure we don't, when we signed him, on their website it said it was £35k, £15k after his league debut, and 5% of any future transfer.
Even if we do it won't be a lot, surely that's not the reason for not playing him? We're still bringing him on as a sub.
What is the point in signing him - they must have known he was cocky. He's a striker - they tend to be cocky and greedy. It's why they are strikers and poachers.
He is naturally - AND STATISTICALLY - the most potent striker we have at any level and he is overlooked.
Parky said before Christmas that he would play an important role in the Christmas period - I believe he managed 14 minutes!
Andy Gray does not deserve to be on the park, Toddy is a cripple, Waggy needs to be 1 of 2 up front or play in the hole.
We cannot score goals
It beggars belief that he has not got a start.
What will that leave us with?. Todorov, Burton & Gray. Dear oh dear.
if they are full time the club is as foolish as can be as we will have to buy a striker next year who will proberly come from League 2 to fire us out of league 1
Off to Orient
Just sure were Ginge got his info has not text me back
It says so in the Sun ...
Off to Orient
Just sure were Ginge got his info has not text me back[/quote]
It says so in the Sun ... ;)[/quote]
It must be true then
I am truly fucked off with driving 150 mile round trips to watch that excuse for management screw this up any more. I am sure there must be someone out there who applied for the job, would not cost the earth and is still available. I couldn't give 2 shits if Dicko has an attitude - at least when he comes on there is a buzz - the crowd get excited, he gees the fans up - how many of our players generate that kind of interest (Shelvey is the only one who springs to mind and he'll be out of here quicker than you can say "We've turned the corner" - there is no fucking corner - we are on a spiral roundabout without corners and we are going down and down and down.)
We need a striker NOW. Someone who will put himself about a bit, rough people up and work hard - but ideally who knows where the net is too
Deon "1 in 29" Burton isn't good enough
Andy Gray isn't good enough (don't give me the bollocks of he needs the service - he is lazy, immobile, slow and not a poacher)
Toddy - Cripple
Waggy - Great potential - but not what we need right now
It takes a lot to really piss me off but Christ almighty are this club pushing my buttons right now
End of rant - I need some fresh air while my keyboard recovers from the pounding I just gave it
Waggy - gone back to Sunderland I think...
No point him sitting on our bench for the rest of the season watching clowns like Burton and Gray failing to trouble the opposition's goal.