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James Bree signs on loan until January 2026

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  • Char1t0n
    Char1t0n Posts: 164
    Does anybody have any knowledge on why the loan is only till Jan? Are we expected to buy him then? The Saints want him back if they have injuries? Is another option like Fukada coming in? NJ has made a big thing about looking for someone for this role (is that a dead ball specialist or more of a dedicated RB) since Jan, which hints at Small not really being the answer. 
    I reckon either the Fukuda deal has been sealed and signed, but all parties have agreed not to officially announce it u til we have him in Jan, or we've agreed a fee with Southampton, should we want him. If that's the case at least we know this guy is going to be at his best to earn a move.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,529
    sam3110 said:
    Bree has more recently played RCB for Southampton but is traditionally a RB/RWB, so think he gives us cover in the event Ramsay picks up a knock plus competes with Apter (in the position Apter has started in this season). Think this signing will affect Apter more than Ramsay but not necessarily negatively, can see Apter playing further forward. Could play Apter cutting in from right, rather than TC cutting in from the left for example if a 3-4-1-2 is played or we could switch to 3-4-3 with TC and Apter flanking a STR. 
    If that second one happens expect us to be even more overran in central midfield
    Agreed, but was tried in pre-season so expect to see it play out at some point, perhaps if we are chasing a game or when things have settled against the weaker defensive sides? 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,130
    robroy said:
    robroy said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    And get the bully booked for pulling him back after TC had skinned him 
    And folding like a deckchair for their second goal?
    The entire team did.
  • Char1t0n said:
    Does anybody have any knowledge on why the loan is only till Jan? Are we expected to buy him then? The Saints want him back if they have injuries? Is another option like Fukada coming in? NJ has made a big thing about looking for someone for this role (is that a dead ball specialist or more of a dedicated RB) since Jan, which hints at Small not really being the answer. 
    I reckon either the Fukuda deal has been sealed and signed, but all parties have agreed not to officially announce it u til we have him in Jan, or we've agreed a fee with Southampton, should we want him. If that's the case at least we know this guy is going to be at his best to earn a move.
    I’m guessing that we’ve stopped our interest in Fukuda. Bree in on loan and if he does well then we’ll pay a token fee to Southampton in January if we can agree terms with the player. I doubt Saints will want him to return in January because he walks for nothing in the summer. They’ll be keen to get something.
  • I’m fascinated to see how this signing works out, hope he settles quickly, and does well.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,913
    robroy said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    What with an over hit cross ?
  • I've not heard anybody say he's played RWB. He's played CB in a 2 in the Prem, RB and RCB. I advise the cheapskates to subscribe to Substack!!!
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,189
    ...how unfit is Bree?

    Any updates ?
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 397
    I'd like to see Apter more centrally as a 10 type player. Saito changed the game for QPR, and I think Apter is capable of similar.
    With Apter running at the defence Leaburn/Gooden peeling off, we'd create a hell of a lot more than we are currently 
    It was sneaky of Saito to burst forward like that, when both teams were settling for a draw.

    Pearl Harbor all over again.

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  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 397
    AndyG said:
    robroy said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    What with an over hit cross ?
    TC's cross was perfect. it was Apter's shot that was fluky.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,181
    wolfgang said:
    I'd like to see Apter more centrally as a 10 type player. Saito changed the game for QPR, and I think Apter is capable of similar.
    With Apter running at the defence Leaburn/Gooden peeling off, we'd create a hell of a lot more than we are currently 
    It was sneaky of Saito to burst forward like that, when both teams were settling for a draw.

    Pearl Harbor all over again.
    Fucking hell.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 595
    wolfgang said:
    I'd like to see Apter more centrally as a 10 type player. Saito changed the game for QPR, and I think Apter is capable of similar.
    With Apter running at the defence Leaburn/Gooden peeling off, we'd create a hell of a lot more than we are currently 
    It was sneaky of Saito to burst forward like that, when both teams were settling for a draw.

    Pearl Harbor all over again.
    Fucking hell.
    I do love a bit of topical humour.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,529
    I've not heard anybody say he's played RWB. He's played CB in a 2 in the Prem, RB and RCB. I advise the cheapskates to subscribe to Substack!!!
    The Southampton podcaster on the Substack interview only reflects on his time at the Saints. Prior to that spell at Luton a few seasons ago he spent 60%+ of his playing time at RWB/RM, the rest between RCB in a 3 and sub 10% at RB. 
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,810
    wolfgang said:
    I'd like to see Apter more centrally as a 10 type player. Saito changed the game for QPR, and I think Apter is capable of similar.
    With Apter running at the defence Leaburn/Gooden peeling off, we'd create a hell of a lot more than we are currently 
    It was sneaky of Saito to burst forward like that, when both teams were settling for a draw.

    Pearl Harbor all over again.
    They were on your side mate so don’t complain. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,305
    sam3110 said:
    Bree has more recently played RCB for Southampton but is traditionally a RB/RWB, so think he gives us cover in the event Ramsay picks up a knock plus competes with Apter (in the position Apter has started in this season). Think this signing will affect Apter more than Ramsay but not necessarily negatively, can see Apter playing further forward. Could play Apter cutting in from right, rather than TC cutting in from the left for example if a 3-4-1-2 is played or we could switch to 3-4-3 with TC and Apter flanking a STR. 
    If that second one happens expect us to be even more overran in central midfield
    If we played 3-4-2-1 then it wouldn’t be Apter and TC, it would be Apter or TC paired with  Knibbs or Carey. There’s no way Jones would leave us that exposed through the middle 

    I’d be setting up this way for all the more difficult games once Bree is fit enough to start games. For games we think we should win I’d keep the Apter RWB setup 
  • Was it the 1st goal against QPR that Edwards was out of position and a dummy in the middle led to Smyths goal. Apter didn't tackle him but was challenging.

    Needs experience at WB but I suspect his remit is only to get back if the FB/WB gets forward
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 648
    In fairness to Apter he managed to get into a position where he’s covered the whole right hand side of the goal and is goal side the only way Smyth was scoring was to hit it straight at Kaminski which he did which he should have saved. He’s not done anything wrong to suggest he’s not cut out to play as a wingback. If Bree is just extra cover for RCB and RWB so be it better option to have than Hobden and Z.Mitchell
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,531
    AndyG said:
    robroy said:
    robroy said:
    I would like to see Apter in the Carey role with Bree on the right. We then have Carey to replace TC when needed (he played on the left for Blackpool). 


    This sounds like when Appleton popped TC in the middle of the pitch and he got bullied after the first game 
    TC got bullied on Saturday too!
    Did well to get an assist then
    What with an over hit cross ?
    Over hit cross or not, it’s still an assist to his name.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,897
    In fairness to Apter he managed to get into a position where he’s covered the whole right hand side of the goal and is goal side the only way Smyth was scoring was to hit it straight at Kaminski which he did which he should have saved. He’s not done anything wrong to suggest he’s not cut out to play as a wingback. If Bree is just extra cover for RCB and RWB so be it better option to have than Hobden and Z.Mitchell
    Apter was fractionally late in covering Smyth, but the same thing could have happened with a "proper" wingback. It's not as if he was just casually strolling back, as you sometimes see with lazy forward and midfield players in the Premier League (especially at Man U).

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,492
    BigDiddy said:
    ...how unfit is Bree?

    Any updates ?

    He's cream crackered
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,531
    edited September 7
    BigDiddy said:
    ...how unfit is Bree?

    Any updates ?
    He had a hamcheesestring strain 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,681
    Brownie12 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    ...how unfit is Bree?

    Any updates ?
    He had a hamcheesestring strain 
    Edam well better be fit for next weekend.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,492
    Brownie12 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    ...how unfit is Bree?

    Any updates ?
    He had a hamcheesestring strain 
    Edam well better be fit for next weekend.
    You just cantal
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,492
    If he ain't fully fit, they'll have him on toast in this league
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,005
    He's not got the athleticism and pace of Ramsay but a decent debut I thought, solid defensively and a nice little bit of skill to set up the goal.

    Will be interesting to see if Ramsay gets his place back now.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,214
    thenewbie said:
    He's not got the athleticism and pace of Ramsay but a decent debut I thought, solid defensively and a nice little bit of skill to set up the goal.

    Will be interesting to see if Ramsay gets his place back now.
    That’s not the battle, he was playing in Apter’s role. Burke, who also played well, is who Ramsay needs to displace in training 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,005
    fenaddick said:
    thenewbie said:
    He's not got the athleticism and pace of Ramsay but a decent debut I thought, solid defensively and a nice little bit of skill to set up the goal.

    Will be interesting to see if Ramsay gets his place back now.
    That’s not the battle, he was playing in Apter’s role. Burke, who also played well, is who Ramsay needs to displace in training 
    I was assuming that with Burkes injuries that he won't be playing every game (or even that often) but the point is fair.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,824
    Ramsey comes straight back in but Burke is a very able deputy 
  • Ramsey comes straight back in but Burke is a very able deputy 
    Nice headache to have, as manager's say