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  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Did Mark Lawrenson really say that? What a twat. Its bad enough picking a soft target but its not as if he is an acedemic himself.

    N. B. And I don't mean soft in the scouse sense.
  • GRAY9
    GRAY9 Posts: 1,086
    Made a difference when he came on and looked lively. Can see him starting with Gerrard being suspended for the midweek game.
  • vancouveraddick
    vancouveraddick Posts: 1,674
    Some good stuff about JJ towards the end of this article:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jan/09/kenny-dalglish-liverpool-manchester-united
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,236
    Another sub appearance tonight at Blackpool
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,546
    Just on as sub v Everton.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,236
    Another sub appearance today. 8 now. At this rate, we should have some money in by Feb.

    Daliglish has brought him on now in all three games since has been put back in charge.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Great vision on 3 occasions by jonjo so far. God do we miss that sort of player.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Playing in the centre too, or seems to be, previously I've only seen him play on the left for Liverpool.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    When we went up there it was the only position woy didn't play him in. Definitely his best position
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    To be fair to Hodgson he had two central midfielders in Meireles and Gerrard, tough to drop either of those in favour of Jonjo.

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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    He played poulson and Lucas that evening with jonjo out wide left then right then upfront
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,358
    Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    You'll have to ask Phil Parkinson.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    edited January 2011
    to be fair he didn't always shine when he did get in the team

    he was gaining experience

    and maybe prem players can resonate more with his talents than div3 players
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]to be fair he didn't often shine when he did get in the team

    Oh no, lets not go there
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,033
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?

    Exactly what I thought, but then I remembered how young he is and how difficult it is at that age to play every week & play well consistently.
    TBF at Liverpool he is coming on as sub and typically playing for less than 45 mins, which is obviously not so tiring physically and mentally.
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    [cite]Posted By: PragueAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]to be fair he didn't often shine when he did get in the team

    Oh no, lets not go there

    Hear hear! Whatever the past, I am absolutely certain that he will establish himself in the Liverpool team and we will see him playing for England before too long.

    Cream always floats to the top!
  • allez les addicks
    allez les addicks Posts: 1,432
    He's also a year older than when he was here, arguably the year he'll develop most year on year too...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    Appears the deal on appearances is more complicated and less favourable to us.

    All euro and league apps are counted as a half even if he starts.

    League subs apps only count if he comes on before the 70th min.

    So a bit further off the dosh than we thought.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,033
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]Appears the deal on appearances is more complicated and less favourable to us.

    All euro and league apps are counted as a half even if he starts.

    League subs apps only count if he comes on before the 70th min.

    So a bit further off the dosh than we thought.

    Don't understand that Henry. How can all Euro and league apps only count as half if he starts ?
    Who is your source ? :-)

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  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    Thought he looked really good when he came on today. He looks like he's quicker than when he was here. Maybe they have been working on that. In a funny way I think he is more suited to the top flight than league 1 and this is probably the case with a lot of players. I really enjoyed watching him today.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]All euro and league apps are counted as a half even if he starts.


    Did you perhaps mean "All Europa League apps..." ?
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    [cite]Posted By: PragueAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]to be fair he didn't often shine when he did get in the team

    Oh no, lets not go there

    ????

    Why did you pick to quote that line as opposed to this one?
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?



    Good to see he's getting on well
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    [cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]Appears the deal on appearances is more complicated and less favourable to us.

    All euro and league apps are counted as a half even if he starts.

    League subs apps only count if he comes on before the 70th min.

    So a bit further off the dosh than we thought.

    Don't understand that Henry. How can all Euro and league apps only count as half if he starts ?
    Who is your source ? :-)


    Ask him who played Inside Right for CAFC v Huddersfield in 1921, he'll know the answer to that, little else though......
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,864
    Sad
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,047
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?
    Noticed at one point this afternoon he played a great ball into space for a team mate to run on to (I can't say who as I was in the pub watching on a 3d tv without the goggles). If he'd played a ball like that with our team it would have been totally wasted.
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,358
    [cite]Posted By: Stig[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?
    Noticed at one point this afternoon he played a great ball into space for a team mate to run on to (I can't say who as I was in the pub watching on a 3d tv without the goggles). If he'd played a ball like that with our team it would have been totally wasted.

    You are quite right there. Some on here may recall Allan Simonsen playing for Charlton. He had to run and run with the ball because no one made a run for him. He would slot through perfect passes that were just too good for the rest of the team.
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,812
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stig[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]Just seen him play for about 15 mins as sub - how did he not get into a Division 3 side last year?
    Noticed at one point this afternoon he played a great ball into space for a team mate to run on to (I can't say who as I was in the pub watching on a 3d tv without the goggles). If he'd played a ball like that with our team it would have been totally wasted.

    You are quite right there. Some on here may recall Allan Simonsen playing for Charlton. He had to run and run with the ball because no one made a run for him. He would slot through perfect passes that were just too good for the rest of the team.

    I know Liverpool are on a downer but they've got a lot further to fall before they can be likened to the dross that surrounded Simonsen during his time at CAFC.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    Sorry meant euro and league cup.

    Source was Kenny Dalglish himself. Played golf with him at one of these charity do's last week.
  • gazzaddick
    gazzaddick Posts: 115
    Name dropper

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