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derek hales wasnt called killer
CAFCROSS
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im a life long charlton fan and i had a season ticket all the way through the seventies and i never heard derek hales be called killer
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No, he was called Derek.0
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Well he's called "Killer" now, so does it really matter?0
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[cite]Posted By: CAFCROSS[/cite]im a life long charlton fan and i had a season ticket all the way through the seventies and i never heard derek hales be called killer
You must have been in the toilet for all his goals cause everytime he scored I'm fairly certain that the killer chant was heard.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Well he's called "Killer" now, so does it really matter?
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blunt and to the point offie i like it0 -
Keith Peacock christened him "Killer", because he looked like a villain and carried a shotgun at The Valley.0
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....well I was there and certainly chanted "Killer" every time the legend scored or attempted to (along with hundreds of other fans). I even had a flag made up with "Killer Hales" that I hung over the fence.0
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From Wicki......
Hales joined Gillingham as a youth team player in 1968 but failed to gain a professional contract and drifted into non-League football. In 1972 Luton Town paid £2,000 to sign him from Dartford, but just over a year later he was sold for £4,000 to Charlton Athletic. It was at The Valley that he made a name for himself, scoring 168 goals in 368 games in two spells at the club, making him the Addicks' all-time leading goalscorer and earning the nickname from the fans "The Killer" or simply "Killer" due to his lethal finishing in front of goal. In between his two spells with Charlton he played top-flight football for Derby County and West Ham United, the team he supported as a boy. When his second spell at Charlton ended in 1985 he joined Gillingham, where he rounded off his professional career with 9 goals in 31 games. Released by the Gills in 1986, he returned to the village in which he was born and bought the local pub.
During his time at Charlton he was once sent off for fighting with his own team-mate Mike Flanagan during an FA Cup match against Maidstone United.
He is currently a P.E. teacher at The Howard School, Gillingham, Kent.0 -
And Colin Powell wasn't called Paddy or Horsfield King Arthur.
What an odd post.0 -
Players used to call him raw meat.0
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Did Killer have his own song..?0
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And Keith Peacock wasn't called "Pee Wee" or Dave Shipperley "Lurch"0
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[quote][cite]Posted By: RedZed333[/cite]Did Killer have his own song..?[/quote]
yes Killer , Killer we sung it in the 80's every game0 -
and hales's testimonial shirts didnt have killer printed on them.
Whats more odd is that I thought cafcross was about 15 years old but hes actually in his 40s0 -
So what's the earliest reference we have to Killer being called Killer...?0
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Lurch was at Millwall wasn't he?[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]And Keith Peacock wasn't called "Pee Wee" or Dave Shipperley "Lurch"
Ship, Ship, Shipperleeeeey!0 -
[cite]Posted By: RedZed333[/cite]So what's the earliest reference we have to Killer being called Killer...?
Probably his first sending off when the crowd thought their centre back was dead.0 -
[cite]Posted By: wickford[/cite]Lurch was at Millwall wasn't he?
Barry Kitchener0 -
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Lurch was at Millwall wasn't he?[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]And Keith Peacock wasn't called "Pee Wee" or Dave Shipperley "Lurch"
Ship, Ship, Shipperleeeeey![cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite][cite]Posted By: wickford[/cite]Lurch was at Millwall wasn't he?
Barry Kitchener
Barry Kithcener, who played alongside 'arry Boy (how he ended up playing for us I'll never know), may have been known as Lurch but I'm sure big Dave was referred to as Lurch too. If not that then "Ship" anyway. We also did indeed sing "Ship Ship Shiperleeee".
Perhaps my memory is just playing tricks. Or maybe I was a Millwall fan in those days.0 -
May be Dave 'Lurch' Shipperley is the missing link for the infamous 'Family' song....0
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In the late 60s & early 70's, Millwall also had Bryan "Matchstick" King in goal at the same time as Barry Kitchener was their centre half (very much known as Lurch), alongside George Jacks as their sweeper; John Gilchrist was RB and, "Gorn, H" at LB, was their legend - if it moved he kicked it.
One of their songs at the time was, "We've got Matchstick King on the line, we've got etc ...."
On the right was irritating tiny goal scoring winger Derek Possee with Gordon Bolland from Charlton and Eamon Dunphy doing the creative stuff and chipping in with goals; Billy Neil was left winger.
Centre forward was a lump called Bryan Conlon, with Keith Weller playing off him.
Dunno how all that just spilled out ....... 40-year old memory, lol0 -
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]In the late 60s & early 70's, Millwall also had Bryan "Matchstick" King in goal at the same time as Barry Kitchener was their centre half (very much known as Lurch), alongside George Jacks as their sweeper; John Gilchrist was RB and, "Gorn, H" at LB, was their legend - if it moved he kicked it.
One of their songs at the time was,"We've got Matchstick King on the line, we've got etc ...."
On the right was irritating tiny goal scoring winger Derek Possee with Gordon Bolland from Charlton and Eamon Dunphy doing the creative stuff and chipping in with goals; Billy Neil was left winger.
Centre forward was a lump called Bryan Conlon, with Keith Weller playing off him.
Dunno how all that just spilled out ....... 40-year old memory, lol
Good stuff Oggy. Amazing to think that, as well as Harry Cripps (who I mentioned earlier), Dunphy, Bolland and I do believe Gilchrist also all played for both clubs. And yet the rivalry seemed even more intense then than it is today.0 -
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I'm sure the killer chant was in use as far back as 1975-6. Mike Flanagan was known as Flash, Colin Powell was Paddy. It was a code we used as the players never had their names on their backs in those days. We were all a bit more innocent in then, people used to shout "roast him Paddy" with not a double entendre in sight.0
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Wasn't Flanagan and Hales also referred to as Snitch and Snatch at one point...?0
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Ummmm... Yes he was. One of my earliest memories of the Valley was killer scoring against someone and the crowd chanting it - I had to ask my Nan what they were singing - she told me, and from that point on I joined in. I was seven...0
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My 10 year old occassionally breaks into Killer chants. He is fascinated by him.0
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always known him as killer since 1979, was frequently chanted during games0
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Don't forget Halesy had 2 spells at The Valley, with his top flight sojourn for a couple of seasons inbetween.
As the years pass, memory can easily get selective ...... perhaps, it was on his return in 1978 that the Killer chant stuck?
I can still hear it in my head, "Killlllllll - lerrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! echoing around The Valley as he muscled his way into the box and belted the ball past the keeper.
No subtlety with Killer ....... he only did direct, and that's what you got.
Can't say I'm familiar with that ...... but winger Peacock was known as "Snatch" in the late 60s, presumably because of his habit of snatching a goal out of nothing.[cite]Posted By: RedZed333[/cite]Wasn't Flanagan and Hales also referred to as Snitch and Snatch at one point...?
Flanagan was always "Flash".
I'm sure Colin Powell was known as "Paddy" when he was still playing non-league with Barnet before we signed him.
If I remember rightly, Barnet drew 0-0 with QPR at Loftus Road in the FA Cup (1973), and Paddy having struck the underside of the bar with one of his trademark outside of the box piledrivers, was MOM.
Theo put in an offer of £25,000 for Paddy (a lot of money for a non-league player in those days!) ....... and the rest, as they say, is history.0 -
Could be that it was only the second spell that the chant stuck. I was too young to remember anything from his first spell with us0
