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Alex Mitchell - gone on a season long loan to Plymouth Argyle (p11)
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I'd have him back. I rate him as a proper defender and better than Macca.
I agree he's not good enough to start, but we need decent cover there, and he knows the club and players.4 -
Knows the club sure but he’s never played with Kaminski or Bree who he’d be interacting with most or Bell, JRC or Kelman (who often shifts out right). That’s half a teambolloxbolder said:I'd have him back. I rate him as a proper defender and better than Macca.
I agree he's not good enough to start, but we need decent cover there, and he knows the club and players.1 -
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I don’t think NJ rates Mitchell in league one, I can’t see him rating him good enough for the championship.3
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I’d consider recalling him as cover for Jones, but would still need another defender with Ramsay and Burkes injuries0
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Genuinely forget he was still our player2
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Someone’s not keeping track of the loan watch thread, tut tutAberystwythAddick said:Genuinely forget he was still our player4 -
Gillesphey was better than Alex Mitchell in league 1. So no he’s not the answer7
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Recall.
Has brilliant stats this season in League 1, Plymouths 4th highest rated player, 7.01 match average, in the team of the week 3 times, 78% pass accuracy, 91% in his own half, despite all the nonsense about him not being comfortable on the ball.
He's hard as nails, is a leader, he's ready to play, and the kind of player you want when you are holding on.
No brainer to get him back. The fact we have Gough on the bench and this is even a discussion is bonkers to me.4 -
Just have a read on socials about him, the bloke is a fkn geezer and a leader, we saw this against Birmingham last season ourselves.
https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/mitchell-leads-the-dressing-room.134873/
Need to remember as well, only just turned 24! If he was one of our academy lads, we would have cut him far more slack.
Come back home brick head.
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I have a real soft spot for him, because he seems like a great bloke to have around the squad, but he has the turning circle of the Ark Royal, and is likely to get done for pace just as badly as Gillesphey unless something's drastically changed in the past few months.8
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he was prone to dodgy passes too just like Gillesphey
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He’d work as a middle cb battling with attackers but wouldn’t work as a wide centreback where we need more faster better on the ball defenders, can tell with the drop off from Bell to Macca would be the same with Ramsay to Mitchell4
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I've watched quite a lot of Plymouth this season for family reasons - most recently at Stevenage this week - and though it's true that Mitchell has made a massive difference to them defensively (especially given Wiredu's early season problems with them) and the fans really like him as a result, the idea that he would be the answer to our defensive problems is for the birds I'm afraid. And while it's true that Plymouth got rid of Gillesphey when they went up to the Championship because they knew he wasn't good enough, the truth is that neither of them is good enough for the Championship. Championship attackers are - by and large - too good in terms of speed of thought and deed. Ramsey, Bell, Jones and Burke are up to it, but they are a good cut (or two) above Gillesphey and Mitchell.14
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You love a non-footballing shithouse defender don't you?Braziliance said:Recall.
Has brilliant stats this season in League 1, Plymouths 4th highest rated player, 7.01 match average, in the team of the week 3 times, 78% pass accuracy, 91% in his own half, despite all the nonsense about him not being comfortable on the ball.
He's hard as nails, is a leader, he's ready to play, and the kind of player you want when you are holding on.
No brainer to get him back. The fact we have Gough on the bench and this is even a discussion is bonkers to me.
Passing accuracy means fuck all in your own half, especially when all you're doing is knocking it 10 yards sideways to the other centre half, or backwards to your keeper.
He's doing ok for a team 3 points above the relegation places in the league below, he's not good enough for us right now, and probably won't be good enough in the future either.
There's a reason Millwall loaned him out to League 1, we signed him in League 1, and when we got promoted we loaned him out to League 19 -
He’s not good enough for the championship but if we haven’t signed a centre back or got Ramsay or Burke back by the time we play Sheffield United then we will have to recall and play one of the Mitchell’s0
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sam3110 said:
You love a non-footballing shithouse defender don't you?Braziliance said:Recall.
Has brilliant stats this season in League 1, Plymouths 4th highest rated player, 7.01 match average, in the team of the week 3 times, 78% pass accuracy, 91% in his own half, despite all the nonsense about him not being comfortable on the ball.
He's hard as nails, is a leader, he's ready to play, and the kind of player you want when you are holding on.
No brainer to get him back. The fact we have Gough on the bench and this is even a discussion is bonkers to me.
Passing accuracy means fuck all in your own half, especially when all you're doing is knocking it 10 yards sideways to the other centre half, or backwards to your keeper.
He's doing ok for a team 3 points above the relegation places in the league below, he's not good enough for us right now, and probably won't be good enough in the future either.
There's a reason Millwall loaned him out to League 1, we signed him in League 1, and when we got promoted we loaned him out to League 1
I personally do think it means something. He has better pass stats than all of our other defenders, in the opponents half, overrall and his own half. Level below admittedly, but it does show it's become a bit of a snowball criticism about his ability on the ball when he is currently proving he can actually find a teammate with a pass.1 -
I don't believe many of our players are good enough for the Championship, I reckon we have about 5. If it was up to me, 80-90% of our squad would be getting released after this season.kielyskickingboots said:I've watched quite a lot of Plymouth this season for family reasons - most recently at Stevenage this week - and though it's true that Mitchell has made a massive difference to them defensively (especially given Wiredu's early season problems with them) and the fans really like him as a result, the idea that he would be the answer to our defensive problems is for the birds I'm afraid. And while it's true that Plymouth got rid of Gillesphey when they went up to the Championship because they knew he wasn't good enough, the truth is that neither of them is good enough for the Championship. Championship attackers are - by and large - too good in terms of speed of thought and deed. Ramsey, Bell, Jones and Burke are up to it, but they are a good cut (or two) above Gillesphey and Mitchell.
Do I want Alex Mitchell to be a long term solution and believe he can be the right sided centre back we need in the long term? Probably not.
Do I want Alex Mitchell to come back to be an option while Burke can't stay fit, Ramsay is injured, and we are relying on a completely unproven youth player in Gough? Absolutely.
Context. We aren’t going to spend much, they've already made that clear, wouldn't hurt recalling the inform players who should be able to slot in. It's all about survival, Mitchell will be ready for that mentality.7 -
That’s partly a system thing though. Plymouth average 51% possession compared to our 42%. It’s easier to find a simple pass when your tactical plan isn’t partly based on not having the ball. Last year his passing accuracy was 68% because of the football we playBraziliance said:sam3110 said:
You love a non-footballing shithouse defender don't you?Braziliance said:Recall.
Has brilliant stats this season in League 1, Plymouths 4th highest rated player, 7.01 match average, in the team of the week 3 times, 78% pass accuracy, 91% in his own half, despite all the nonsense about him not being comfortable on the ball.
He's hard as nails, is a leader, he's ready to play, and the kind of player you want when you are holding on.
No brainer to get him back. The fact we have Gough on the bench and this is even a discussion is bonkers to me.
Passing accuracy means fuck all in your own half, especially when all you're doing is knocking it 10 yards sideways to the other centre half, or backwards to your keeper.
He's doing ok for a team 3 points above the relegation places in the league below, he's not good enough for us right now, and probably won't be good enough in the future either.
There's a reason Millwall loaned him out to League 1, we signed him in League 1, and when we got promoted we loaned him out to League 1
I personally do think it means something. He has better pass stats than all of our other defenders, in the opponents half, overrall and his own half. Level below admittedly, but it does show it's become a bit of a snowball criticism about his ability on the ball when he is currently proving he can actually find a teammate with a pass.3 -
offer him for sale to plymouth use money towards a better CB,not sure what his worth though0
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Alex was a rower converted to football, so was big before he changed codes, hence he never played RB, so he lacks experience in a three, doesn't know when to go wide or stick.Crispywood said:He’d work as a middle cb battling with attackers but wouldn’t work as a wide centreback where we need more faster better on the ball defenders, can tell with the drop off from Bell to Macca would be the same with Ramsay to Mitchell
A decent player on the right of a four.0 -
He will have a good career in league 1/2, but hasn't got the physical or balling ability to play any higher. Keep him where he is, playing every game and we will get a few hundred thousand for him in the summer.4
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How did I know when I see this
pop up would be people asking to recall him hahahaha geezer is nowhere near championship standard. Couldn’t even get minutes in league 1 for us. Let it go man!!! We NEED BETTER, people be calling for the return of Terry Taylor next lol
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He'd be like a new signing if we did recall him21cws said:How did I know when I see this
pop up would be people asking to recall him hahahaha geezer is nowhere near championship standard. Couldn’t even get minutes in league 1 for us. Let it go man!!! We NEED BETTER, people be calling for the return of Terry Taylor next lol2 -
Still can't get over him being only 241
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Hahahaha don’t get people started pleaseForeverAddickted said:
He'd be like a new signing if we did recall him21cws said:How did I know when I see this
pop up would be people asking to recall him hahahaha geezer is nowhere near championship standard. Couldn’t even get minutes in league 1 for us. Let it go man!!! We NEED BETTER, people be calling for the return of Terry Taylor next lol2 -
Agreed.Braziliance said:
I don't believe many of our players are good enough for the Championship, I reckon we have about 5. If it was up to me, 80-90% of our squad would be getting released after this season.kielyskickingboots said:I've watched quite a lot of Plymouth this season for family reasons - most recently at Stevenage this week - and though it's true that Mitchell has made a massive difference to them defensively (especially given Wiredu's early season problems with them) and the fans really like him as a result, the idea that he would be the answer to our defensive problems is for the birds I'm afraid. And while it's true that Plymouth got rid of Gillesphey when they went up to the Championship because they knew he wasn't good enough, the truth is that neither of them is good enough for the Championship. Championship attackers are - by and large - too good in terms of speed of thought and deed. Ramsey, Bell, Jones and Burke are up to it, but they are a good cut (or two) above Gillesphey and Mitchell.
Do I want Alex Mitchell to be a long term solution and believe he can be the right sided centre back we need in the long term? Probably not.
Do I want Alex Mitchell to come back to be an option while Burke can't stay fit, Ramsay is injured, and we are relying on a completely unproven youth player in Gough? Absolutely.
Context. We aren’t going to spend much, they've already made that clear, wouldn't hurt recalling the inform players who should be able to slot in. It's all about survival, Mitchell will be ready for that mentality.2 -
Who are the 5 then? Jones, Ramsay and Bell seem the obvious ones.Coventry, Burke, Bree (at his best), Edwards, and Carey (less so recently) would probably all get a mention.
Kaminski doesn’t seem to have convinced many.
Godden would be on some people’s list based on last season.
Kelman, Leaburn and JRC are starting to change opinions and may be seen as good enough by the end of the season.
TCs biggest fans would probably want him higher up.0
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