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We have a third car (Corsa) in the family. We were going to px it when we bought our new Hybrid, but on reflection as its only done 12k miles, drives brilliantly, is fine mechanically (if not pristine bodily so not worth a lot as a px) we decided to keep it. For the cost of an annual mot and service it seemed folly to sell it so instead we'll just use it as a spare. Already the value is slightly higher on Motorway than it was a year ago. Cant see that we will ever go full electric, unless they give us no choice.R0TW said:
cant argue with that. My 2005 Honda still has the same zip about it as when it first came out the factory. Happily smash 80/90 down the motorway with no rattles or worries. 135k and won’t give it up unless financially unviable.MuttleyCAFC said:We have lost a lot of things and this does not specifically apply to Evs over ICEs. We have lost any beauty and flair there was in car design. I am not going to argue with somebody who thinks Bella Emberg is prettier than Marilyn Monroe, it is just a fact. We have also got ourselves in a position where for both EVs and ICEs, won't last. Car companies are designing cars like washing machines and they will be reliable for the first 5 to 7 years and then you will have problems. Some might say, well wasn't that always the case? The answer is yes to a certain extent but cars used to be repairable for a reasonable price. You now have the situtation where it can cost £500 to repair a light bulb and Peugeot have introduced a gear box that can't be repaired, only replaced. The cost of doing so? £7k. There are so many needless features to modern cars that are all there to go wrong.
The golden age of cars was the 2000s to 2010s. That was when they were as reliable as ever. You could get some after that. They were the cars with outdated engines and hanging on for replacement. All the motoring journnos were saying don't buy those but they couldn't have been more wrong. The couldn't see what the car companies were up to. At the time they were saying buy the 1litre that can perform like a 2 litre. Basically pusing the engine to an early grave and an overelience on computers. When they go wrong they cost a fortune to sort out, not forgetting wet belts which was never a good idea. Cars will be great for the first five years but keep your older cars if you have one. They are going to become very valuable when the floor falls out of the second hand market on newer cars. Both for EVs and ICEs.
Instead I have been mostly driving my BMW 135m, it's 2010 (before it all got too silly), and is great fun to drive. Its 3 litre and I noticed today when I drove it to Sainsbury's and back, it didn't once need to go above 2000 revs (unless you want some fun and give it some beans) so its also very good on fuel.0 -
Which is why he said WERE in the first clause and WOULD in the second clause. It’s a hypothetical conditional which shows that he has no faith in them because he recognises that they are not ’truly green’. The laugh is on you, I’m afraid.CAFC_CAT said:
Sorry but that part almost made me laugh😅... You have too much faith in them! They are led by politicians and politicians are the most untrustworthy, the most hypocritical, the greediest and the most coldblooded people in the world. The only difference between one and another is just some of them make an effort to pretend that they care while others just don't bother.MuttleyCAFC said:It is true about this applying to everything. Not just cars. It will boils my p*** that governments don't do anything about it. There is a growing movement, 'Right to Repair' and if governments were truly green, they would embrace it. Tvs for example are not designed to be fixed, especially the cheaper ones. A common failure on LED TVs are the LED backlight strips. A monkey could have designed the TVs for easy replacement but no, it becomes a hard job and in some cases an impossible job. How is is great for the evironment to build these things and throw them away after a few years? A lot of the green stuff governments come out with is rubbish if these issues are not addressed.
Going back to cars, electric vehicles and heavy ICEs cause more damage to roads so absolutely right they have to pay road tax!0
