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New Head Of Performance - Will Abbott, leaving in September (p3)
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Do we miss him already?4
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Hard to say. Bell definitely pulled something. Burke had already been struggling and then seemed to get his foot stuck in the pitch, nothing conditioning work can do about thatCallumcafc said:Do we miss him already?2 -
Jones was hobbling about end of first half, TC feeling his hammy for 10 mins before being subbed, reckon the knocks will start to take their toll soon, thankfully we have a (relatively) deep squad to handle all but the worst injury crisis3
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He obviously improved our fitness and injury record immensely, but he didn’t stop us having any injuries at all. No one could.Callumcafc said:Do we miss him already?3 -
I was thinking less about the injuries that Bell and Burke suffered and more about how ragged we’ve looked off the ball in the last couple of games.5
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We definitely look less fit since he left the building. There's a new raggedness to our team in the final minutes.3
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Hard to quantify if we’re less fit or just the Championship is a fitter division but I’d bank on it being the latter8
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I thought it was noticeable against Watford and Bristol City in particular that both sides looked fitter and seen it a few times since, it's a massive jump up from League One. That's not to say the team isn't fit enough just there are probably more established teams in the league more acclimatised to the pace and fitness of the league.fenaddick said:Hard to quantify if we’re less fit or just the Championship is a fitter division but I’d bank on it being the latter4 -
I just think as games go by, the effort will slowly wear us down, and recovery times will possibly need to increase
Wonder if we tried to be a bit too clever when we went 1-0 up, we're known to be a side that can grind out wins, so rather than go too much for 2-0, tried to protect what we have, especially with the First Half injuries, and the two upcoming games ahead of the International Break
Because once we're beyond this next break its full on Football until March, not to mention the Christmas break coming up, and think over the course of the season, that leggyness will potentially show a bit more at times.
Its why I was happy for us to lose to Cambridge in the League Cup, its why I don't care about our progression in the FA Cup either to be honest... Any extra games, even one or two, are simply going to unnecessarily add to the workload.
We're only just a quarter of the way through the season...4 -
A lot of the women's team seem to be less fit than at the start of the season.
In recent games some players have been outpaced by the opposition.0 -
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I'm not sure I get it!We are talking about professional athletes who have been training and conditioning for years, ever since they were children. A footballer playing in League One will have access to the latest training regimes and techniques, conditioning coaches, nutritionists and so on - there are no secrets or magic bullets. The differences between lower league footballers and Prem/Championship footballers will be tactical, skill levels, awareness and so on - the fitness levels should be on a par.I believe it is more about how we play (tactics) and the abilities of our players (skill level - technical and football intelligence). Age is a factor as well, of course, and we have some ageing players on our books.1
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Bell has done well to last as long as he has done . He’s been injury prone for many years .fenaddick said:
Hard to say. Bell definitely pulled something. Burke had already been struggling and then seemed to get his foot stuck in the pitch, nothing conditioning work can do about thatCallumcafc said:Do we miss him already?Not sure about Burke but of all the centre halfs we have he’s the one , if we’re going to have an injury , I would prefer out. We are defending going to have to look at cover for at least one player for left wing in the transfer window and possibly recall one of the Mitchell’s from on loan .0 -
Access to top quality and experienced physios, medical staff, and sport scientists is an important factor in performance over a season, even in the second tier.bobmunro said:I'm not sure I get it!We are talking about professional athletes who have been training and conditioning for years, ever since they were children. A footballer playing in League One will have access to the latest training regimes and techniques, conditioning coaches, nutritionists and so on - there are no secrets or magic bullets. The differences between lower league footballers and Prem/Championship footballers will be tactical, skill levels, awareness and so on - the fitness levels should be on a par.I believe it is more about how we play (tactics) and the abilities of our players (skill level - technical and football intelligence). Age is a factor as well, of course, and we have some ageing players on our books.
The best informed and most experienced medical staff will create tailor-made programmes for each player taking into account their individual condition and career history.
Dr Abbott leaving was a big loss for the club.10 -
We can’t until JanuaryBedsaddick said:
Bell has done well to last as long as he has done . He’s been injury prone for many years .fenaddick said:
Hard to say. Bell definitely pulled something. Burke had already been struggling and then seemed to get his foot stuck in the pitch, nothing conditioning work can do about thatCallumcafc said:Do we miss him already?Not sure about Burke but of all the centre halfs we have he’s the one , if we’re going to have an injury , I would prefer out. We are defending going to have to look at cover for at least one player for left wing in the transfer window and possibly recall one of the Mitchell’s from on loan .0 -
Dr Abbott leaving is a big loss but also think the change in fitness levels is that against championship opposition our players are having to work much harder to hold and retrieve the ball in and out of possession where as in League 1 post January we didn’t even need to get out of 2nd gear half the time hence why we looked much fitter. Still don’t think there’s been a single championship side to outwork us this season in terms of running fitness and aggressionArthur_Trudgill said:
Access to top quality and experienced physios, medical staff, and sport scientists is an important factor in performance over a season, even in the second tier.bobmunro said:I'm not sure I get it!We are talking about professional athletes who have been training and conditioning for years, ever since they were children. A footballer playing in League One will have access to the latest training regimes and techniques, conditioning coaches, nutritionists and so on - there are no secrets or magic bullets. The differences between lower league footballers and Prem/Championship footballers will be tactical, skill levels, awareness and so on - the fitness levels should be on a par.I believe it is more about how we play (tactics) and the abilities of our players (skill level - technical and football intelligence). Age is a factor as well, of course, and we have some ageing players on our books.
The best informed and most experienced medical staff will create tailor-made programmes for each player taking into account their individual condition and career history.
Dr Abbott leaving was a big loss for the club.3 -
I agree. We have surely seen enough fit (and unfit) Charlton sides to know that conditioning is not an even playing field.Arthur_Trudgill said:
Access to top quality and experienced physios, medical staff, and sport scientists is an important factor in performance over a season, even in the second tier.bobmunro said:I'm not sure I get it!We are talking about professional athletes who have been training and conditioning for years, ever since they were children. A footballer playing in League One will have access to the latest training regimes and techniques, conditioning coaches, nutritionists and so on - there are no secrets or magic bullets. The differences between lower league footballers and Prem/Championship footballers will be tactical, skill levels, awareness and so on - the fitness levels should be on a par.I believe it is more about how we play (tactics) and the abilities of our players (skill level - technical and football intelligence). Age is a factor as well, of course, and we have some ageing players on our books.
The best informed and most experienced medical staff will create tailor-made programmes for each player taking into account their individual condition and career history.
Dr Abbott leaving was a big loss for the club.3 -
Is Adam Coe still with the club? I don’t see him pitch side or coming on during games to injured players.0
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He is but his partner (who plays for the womens team) is on maternity leave so not inconceivable that congratulations are in orderrobinofottershaw said:Is Adam Coe still with the club? I don’t see him pitch side or coming on during games to injured players.2 -
If you genuinely don’t think you have to work harder, concentrate more fully, maintain greater focus, react more quickly or operate at a higher speed for every level of the game you step up you haven’t played the game at any senior level in the pyramid. The better the players you play against, the harder you have to work both physically and mentally. In recent years the pressing game has taken the physical and mental workload to new levels. Yes there will always be regular knocks, bruises, pulls, strains which build up to take their toll as the programme intensifies but it is the mental edge which ultimately sets the tone for driving performance. Several players do look jaded. For those stepping into or returning to the Championship it is a learning curve as to how to manage maintaining that mental sharpness. It is an inexact science which very rarely kicks in automatically. Everybody is different.6
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This was posted on October 17th right?carly burn said:
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I’m not sure, but let’s hope he’s charged his phone!FishCostaFortune said:
This was posted on October 17th right?carly burn said:0 -
Good point. Maybe even more reason to find a good and experienced replacement quickly.Crispywood said:
Dr Abbott leaving is a big loss but also think the change in fitness levels is that against championship opposition our players are having to work much harder to hold and retrieve the ball in and out of possession where as in League 1 post January we didn’t even need to get out of 2nd gear half the time hence why we looked much fitter. Still don’t think there’s been a single championship side to outwork us this season in terms of running fitness and aggressionArthur_Trudgill said:
Access to top quality and experienced physios, medical staff, and sport scientists is an important factor in performance over a season, even in the second tier.bobmunro said:I'm not sure I get it!We are talking about professional athletes who have been training and conditioning for years, ever since they were children. A footballer playing in League One will have access to the latest training regimes and techniques, conditioning coaches, nutritionists and so on - there are no secrets or magic bullets. The differences between lower league footballers and Prem/Championship footballers will be tactical, skill levels, awareness and so on - the fitness levels should be on a par.I believe it is more about how we play (tactics) and the abilities of our players (skill level - technical and football intelligence). Age is a factor as well, of course, and we have some ageing players on our books.
The best informed and most experienced medical staff will create tailor-made programmes for each player taking into account their individual condition and career history.
Dr Abbott leaving was a big loss for the club.
Last thing I want to see is Lloyd Jones limping off the pitch, even if it was a short term injury.1 -
Ah. Thanks. He always comes across well in various videos I have seen, so good to know he is still part of the medical team.fenaddick said:
He is but his partner (who plays for the womens team) is on maternity leave so not inconceivable that congratulations are in orderrobinofottershaw said:Is Adam Coe still with the club? I don’t see him pitch side or coming on during games to injured players.0
