I noticed Tracey on the edge of the pitch with the players on Saturday, so I assume she is working a notice period. I would guess Dr Abbott will do the same, so in the event of any further signings he may well still be involved in the medicals.
Nathan Jones appears to have Carte blanche at CAFC and is this treading on the toes of the backroom staff?
Well definitely not in the case of James Brayne who is obviously ambitious and as a first team coach with the remit of being the set piece guy it's no surprise that he headed to the North east to Sunderland for a wage that was commensurate with a Premier Coach.
Our Tracey was in the dressing room at Wembley as NJ did his victory speech which hardly speaks of an issue with Nathan ? I'm not ITK and the hours put into the job by Tracey was full on; TL said she wants to watch CAFC and Miles after 10 years of being there for all the squad. Tracey appeared to go way beyond her remit with caring for the players and doing that for a decade, no wonder she stepped down.
Until we know the next Job Dr Will Abbott has been offered it's difficult to be sure if there's an issue with NJ or just a professional decision even in a different sport. Rugby would be a challenge for him !
We really don't want anything to affect our momentum as a club, on or off the pitch and three staff leaving within a month does feed the speculation.
He's probably just found a higher paying job and that's that. No everything has to be a conspiracy
Very possibly, and it'll be interesting to see where he ends up next. But if you like your job and you're offered one on more money, wouldn't you go to your boss and see if they could get close to matching it? And then your boss would have to weigh up the costs of paying you more against the risks of not being able to find someone who is as good at what you do. Obviously if he's been headhunted by Man City that's a much different calculation than say QPR.
There is this weird love affair with him on this forum. I don’t doubt he was good at his job but he is a sport performance guy. There are some on here who saw Aneke stay relatively healthy for a ten game stretch and somehow equated Dr Will with being involved with everything that went well last year including scouting whether a potential player would be injured to our propensity to score late in matches. It really was a little bizarre
We were clearly one of if not the fittest teams in L1 last season. The way we finished games on top, scoring so many late goals and conceding so few, maintaining the energy to the 96th minute. Our players went from having a worse than average injury record to a better than average one.
Of course it wasn't just down to one person, but he was at the heart of this.
He's probably just found a higher paying job and that's that. No everything has to be a conspiracy
Very possibly, and it'll be interesting to see where he ends up next. But if you like your job and you're offered one on more money, wouldn't you go to your boss and see if they could get close to matching it? And then your boss would have to weigh up the costs of paying you more against the risks of not being able to find someone who is as good at what you do. Obviously if he's been headhunted by Man City that's a much different calculation than say QPR.
Counter offers very rarely work out well. If the employee has taken the effort to look for, apply, and be selected for a higher paying role with another organisation it is unlikely to be just about the money. It can also breed contempt in the employee if they stay ('Why didn't they pay me that already?") and also dissatisfaction from others who think "so you have to threaten to leave to get more money".
Best to just thank them for their efforts and wish them well in their new role.
There is this weird love affair with him on this forum. I don’t doubt he was good at his job but he is a sport performance guy. There are some on here who saw Aneke stay relatively healthy for a ten game stretch and somehow equated Dr Will with being involved with everything that went well last year including scouting whether a potential player would be injured to our propensity to score late in matches. It really was a little bizarre
We were clearly one of if not the fittest teams in L1 last season. The way we finished games on top, scoring so many late goals and conceding so few, maintaining the energy to the 96th minute. Our players went from having a worse than average injury record to a better than average one.
Of course it wasn't just down to one person, but he was at the heart of this.
Well quiet. From my understanding Jones Luton team were also similar in their levels of fitness and they didn’t have Will Abbott working with them.
This is not to understate Will’s role, but there’s lots of factors playing into why we are as fit as we are - from identifying the right players, and not just physically, to having the right coaches and coaching.
As fans we tend to look at things in such a microcosm. Will was probably exceptional at his job, but that’s not to say there won’t be others. We’ve seemed to on the whole been getting recruitment right both on and off the pitch - so personally I don’t see anything to get worried about.
Falling out or no falling out, if Abbott was good at his job (and it seems he was) then processes will have been put in place that remaining staff can follow
He's probably just found a higher paying job and that's that. No everything has to be a conspiracy
Very possibly, and it'll be interesting to see where he ends up next. But if you like your job and you're offered one on more money, wouldn't you go to your boss and see if they could get close to matching it? And then your boss would have to weigh up the costs of paying you more against the risks of not being able to find someone who is as good at what you do. Obviously if he's been headhunted by Man City that's a much different calculation than say QPR.
Counter offers very rarely work out well. If the employee has taken the effort to look for, apply, and be selected for a higher paying role with another organisation it is unlikely to be just about the money. It can also breed contempt in the employee if they stay ('Why didn't they pay me that already?") and also dissatisfaction from others who think "so you have to threaten to leave to get more money".
Best to just thank them for their efforts and wish them well in their new role.
On one occasion when a team member resigned, and I said "thanks for all of you've done, and congratulations on your new role" he questioned why I wasn't coming back with a counter offer and was genuinely annoyed. The reality is that people who stay on after a counter offer (which are quite rare when you are working in an environment with clear salary bands associated with a role) have already had their heads turned.
I am not going to say too much but for me the strange one is Tracey, she is Mrs Charlton, snap her in half and Charlton will be stamped in there like a stick of rock.
10 years at the club working with some of the scummiest owners and human beings we have encountered and all while we were languishing in League One.
We then start to see an improvement on the ownership front, have a great season ending in promotion and then before a ball is kicked she resigns?
I think from memory, ( I maybe wrong, can’t rember where!) he lived a long way away, would make a difference, if he had a long commute, and maybe not sustainable long term.
I did ask him, how long it typically takes, to do a medical, when we sign a player, as fans get impatient, etc, he said about 3 hours, as an average, although I guess it depends on their medical history.
Wants to move back up north closer to his family, cue him signing for Brighton
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Well definitely not in the case of James Brayne who is obviously ambitious and as a first team coach with the remit of being the set piece guy it's no surprise that he headed to the North east to Sunderland for a wage that was commensurate with a Premier Coach.
Our Tracey was in the dressing room at Wembley as NJ did his victory speech which hardly speaks of an issue with Nathan ?
I'm not ITK and the hours put into the job by Tracey was full on; TL said she wants to watch CAFC and Miles after 10 years of being there for all the squad. Tracey appeared to go way beyond her remit with caring for the players and doing that for a decade, no wonder she stepped down.
Until we know the next Job Dr Will Abbott has been offered it's difficult to be sure if there's an issue with NJ or just a professional decision even in a different sport.
Rugby would be a challenge for him !
We really don't want anything to affect our momentum as a club, on or off the pitch and three staff leaving within a month does feed the speculation.
Of course it wasn't just down to one person, but he was at the heart of this.
If we’re going to speculate wildly let's go wild.
That's not wild speculation though - I heard the same directly from someone at the club.
This is not to understate Will’s role, but there’s lots of factors playing into why we are as fit as we are - from identifying the right players, and not just physically, to having the right coaches and coaching.
As fans we tend to look at things in such a microcosm. Will was probably exceptional at his job, but that’s not to say there won’t be others. We’ve seemed to on the whole been getting recruitment right both on and off the pitch - so personally I don’t see anything to get worried about.
10 years at the club working with some of the scummiest owners and human beings we have encountered and all while we were languishing in League One.
We then start to see an improvement on the ownership front, have a great season ending in promotion and then before a ball is kicked she resigns?