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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++
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Crispywood said:
That’s because Fabricio Reported it as 3.5M rising to 5M. Cawley said himself in his Substack that the fee is still very hefty. If you genuinely believe we spent a stupid amount of money for Kelman to sit on the bench this season when the whole aim of this season was to survive the you’re lying to yourselfRonnieMoore said:
He never cost as much as people think NJ said that …. If Godden was fit to start this season Kelman would be on the bench and probably would have had a couple of goals by coming on as subCrispywood said:
Ahh yes the player that cost a 1/3-1/4 of our entire summer budget was not brought in to be a regular starter.RonnieMoore said:I don’t think Charlie was brought in as a starter I think he would have been eased into the team and using Godden to teach him along the way .. but Godden injury has falsed us to use him earlier then we had planned … but I think
he done well and looking better each game , the problem not him .
I'd not calling it lying, ahem.
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Charlie Kelman has played for Charlton in 9 Championship matches (470 minutes playing time) plus 2 EFL cup matches (88 minutes playing time)
His record is from the 11 games (558 minutes of playing time) is 0 Goals and 0 Assists, and from memory probably no more than 3 or 4 shots on target.
It looks to me that his ceiling is League 1, and the Championship is a step too far for him.
If we really paid £3 million pounds for him, QPR certainly pulled our pants down, and have got us back big time for selling them Macaulay Bonne.
The forwards really need to start scoring some goals, and I cannot see that Charlie is the answer. Daniel Kanu has been loaned out, but he was a better forward than Kelman.
In my opinion we are wasting our time with Kelman leading the line.2 -
Agreed... Apart from Kanu. Just don't see anything in Kelman game, he isn't quick, tough isn't that great, he isn't strong, he doesn't get in to the right place, and the minimal shots he has had have been weak.. People will say he hasn't had the chances yet.. Sorry, that doesn't buy with me.. It is a striker job, to get in to the right position to create those chances.. Lots of balls have gone into the box, and he isn't in slight, or is the wrong area..Billericaydickie said:Charlie Kelman has played for Charlton in 9 Championship matches (470 minutes playing time) plus 2 EFL cup matches (88 minutes playing time)
His record is from the 11 games (558 minutes of playing time) is 0 Goals and 0 Assists, and from memory probably no more than 3 or 4 shots on target.
It looks to me that his ceiling is League 1, and the Championship is a step too far for him.
If we really paid £3 million pounds for him, QPR certainly pulled our pants down, and have got us back big time for selling them Macaulay Bonne.
The forwards really need to start scoring some goals, and I cannot see that Charlie is the answer. Daniel Kanu has been loaned out, but he was a better forward than Kelman.
In my opinion we are wasting our time with Kelman leading the line.3 -
This.DubaiCAFC said:
Agreed... Apart from Kanu. Just don't see anything in Kelman game, he isn't quick, tough isn't that great, he isn't strong, he doesn't get in to the right place, and the minimal shots he has had have been weak.. People will say he hasn't had the chances yet.. Sorry, that doesn't buy with me.. It is a striker job, to get in to the right position to create those chances.. Lots of balls have gone into the box, and he isn't in slight, or is the wrong area..Billericaydickie said:Charlie Kelman has played for Charlton in 9 Championship matches (470 minutes playing time) plus 2 EFL cup matches (88 minutes playing time)
His record is from the 11 games (558 minutes of playing time) is 0 Goals and 0 Assists, and from memory probably no more than 3 or 4 shots on target.
It looks to me that his ceiling is League 1, and the Championship is a step too far for him.
If we really paid £3 million pounds for him, QPR certainly pulled our pants down, and have got us back big time for selling them Macaulay Bonne.
The forwards really need to start scoring some goals, and I cannot see that Charlie is the answer. Daniel Kanu has been loaned out, but he was a better forward than Kelman.
In my opinion we are wasting our time with Kelman leading the line.0 -
if you watch Kelman he’s constantly pointing to where he wants it played to him and is often largely ignored. Probably doesn’t help that I think he likes it in quick (his best half chances have been first time flicks) and TC like to hold the ball up to take on the defender.DubaiCAFC said:
Agreed... Apart from Kanu. Just don't see anything in Kelman game, he isn't quick, tough isn't that great, he isn't strong, he doesn't get in to the right place, and the minimal shots he has had have been weak.. People will say he hasn't had the chances yet.. Sorry, that doesn't buy with me.. It is a striker job, to get in to the right position to create those chances.. Lots of balls have gone into the box, and he isn't in slight, or is the wrong area..Billericaydickie said:Charlie Kelman has played for Charlton in 9 Championship matches (470 minutes playing time) plus 2 EFL cup matches (88 minutes playing time)
His record is from the 11 games (558 minutes of playing time) is 0 Goals and 0 Assists, and from memory probably no more than 3 or 4 shots on target.
It looks to me that his ceiling is League 1, and the Championship is a step too far for him.
If we really paid £3 million pounds for him, QPR certainly pulled our pants down, and have got us back big time for selling them Macaulay Bonne.
The forwards really need to start scoring some goals, and I cannot see that Charlie is the answer. Daniel Kanu has been loaned out, but he was a better forward than Kelman.
In my opinion we are wasting our time with Kelman leading the line.Personally I think Kelman is looking sharper and sharper and looks like he has some quality, I’m just convinced our system just doesn’t work with a player with kelman’s attributes.3 -
Leyton's Kelman replacement is flying at start of the season in league one.Ballard, hattrick today and 6 league goals in 6 games. 20 year old signed from Southampton.Leyton mate joked that he'll be playing for us this time next year!2
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Orient are a free flowing team who score lots of goals. They're midtable but have scored the joint most goals in the division.stoneroses19 said:Leyton's Kelman replacement is flying at start of the season in league one.Ballard, hattrick today and 6 league goals in 6 games. 20 year old signed from Southampton.Leyton mate joked that he'll be playing for us this time next year!
Which is why it can be misleading to just look at simple stats, and assume the striker who scored 20 goals is better than one at another club who scored 14.1 -
Starting to worry about these Kelman performances8
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Did you have your eyes closed watching him today? - He terrorised their back line24
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I saw him go through one on one just to be caught up by Otegbayo, I saw Carey put in a beautiful ball across the box where Kelman should have been, his link up and hold up play was good today but he’s showed nothing to suggest he’s a striker6
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I’m sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are completely wrong. Kelman was absolutely brilliant today. People need to stop targeting Kelman and worry more about TC. That being said, TC doesn’t pick the side, that was my only criticism of NJ today that Oloafe should have started instead of TC and I am a huge fan of TC.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances
Of late, I really do think TC would benefit coming off the bench as an impact player against stretched defences. I’m surprised this option hasn’t been explored yet because he is a dangerous player at the end of the day.19 -
We are very obviously a better side when he's on at the moment19
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Said it during the game, but its ridiculous how easy it is to see that he's a proper Nathan Jones type player with his work rate
I feel its easier for us to defend from the front when he and TC are on the pitch
The problem Charlie has, is the fact that he's often putting in the hard work to win us the ball, further up the pitch, so isnt then in position to benefit when the ball goes into the box... But others are scoring the goals so it doesnt really matter6 -
Really? Watched a different game to most of us then. Was really pleased when the Covered End sung his name as he was subbed. He played well and needed to know we thought so, well most of us.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances14 -
Against the worst defence in the league (and by some distance), who was also missing their best CB, you expect him to show up, if he doesn't against them, then he won't against anyone at this level, and he showed some positives, and held the line well, but the fact that he still looked nowhere near like scoring is a big concern.9
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How can you say he didn’t turn up? Didn’t score, agreed, but he had a good game againIR94 said:Against the worst defence in the league (and by some distance), who was also missing their best CB, you expect him to show up, if he doesn't against then, then he won't against anyone at this level. But the fact that he still looked nowhere near like scoring is a big concern.12 -
Sorry amended my pointstonemuse said:
How can you say he didn’t turn up? Didn’t score, agreed, but he had a good game againIR94 said:Against the worst defence in the league (and by some distance), who was also missing their best CB, you expect him to show up, if he doesn't against then, then he won't against anyone at this level. But the fact that he still looked nowhere near like scoring is a big concern.0 -
Plus they’ve conceded 11 in three particular games. Other games are reasonable3
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I was actually a bit annoyed jones took him off.I’m more and more convinced when he scores one he’ll start absolutely smashing them in. He clearly has quality.16
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Tc got an assist today!cafc_se7 said:
I’m sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are completely wrong. Kelman was absolutely brilliant today. People need to stop targeting Kelman and worry more about TC. That being said, TC doesn’t pick the side, that was my only criticism of NJ today that Oloafe should have started instead of TC and I am a huge fan of TC.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances
Of late, I really do think TC would benefit coming off the bench as an impact player against stretched defences. I’m surprised this option hasn’t been explored yet because he is a dangerous player at the end of the day.Altho agree with mixing it up, and be good to bring him on late, maybe start tanto with kelman and see if it woks etc1 -
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One of those games where Kelman should've been given 90 minutes and then given a rest on Tuesday instead.18
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I think these first 6 months are for Jones to mould Kelman into the new Godden. You can already see the incremental improvements. I'm not worried, we've got time and it's not like we're struggling.16
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TC had a major involvement in the first goal, whereas Kelman while having a couple of nice touches had no shots, and didn't create anything either.cafc_se7 said:
I’m sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are completely wrong. Kelman was absolutely brilliant today. People need to stop targeting Kelman and worry more about TC. That being said, TC doesn’t pick the side, that was my only criticism of NJ today that Oloafe should have started instead of TC and I am a huge fan of TC.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances
Of late, I really do think TC would benefit coming off the bench as an impact player against stretched defences. I’m surprised this option hasn’t been explored yet because he is a dangerous player at the end of the day.2 -
What about the shot in the first half when he was in a foot race with the defender but got his shot off but it was blocked by the defender or keeper?killerandflash said:
TC had a major involvement in the first goal, whereas Kelman while having a couple of nice touches had no shots, and didn't create anything either.cafc_se7 said:
I’m sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are completely wrong. Kelman was absolutely brilliant today. People need to stop targeting Kelman and worry more about TC. That being said, TC doesn’t pick the side, that was my only criticism of NJ today that Oloafe should have started instead of TC and I am a huge fan of TC.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances
Of late, I really do think TC would benefit coming off the bench as an impact player against stretched defences. I’m surprised this option hasn’t been explored yet because he is a dangerous player at the end of the day.0 -
Blocked by the defender, should have done better. A shot yes, but I'm not sure whether shots blocked by defenders count in the official stats.LargeAddick said:
What about the shot in the first half when he was in a foot race with the defender but got his shot off but it was blocked by the defender or keeper?killerandflash said:
TC had a major involvement in the first goal, whereas Kelman while having a couple of nice touches had no shots, and didn't create anything either.cafc_se7 said:
I’m sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are completely wrong. Kelman was absolutely brilliant today. People need to stop targeting Kelman and worry more about TC. That being said, TC doesn’t pick the side, that was my only criticism of NJ today that Oloafe should have started instead of TC and I am a huge fan of TC.Crispywood said:Starting to worry about these Kelman performances
Of late, I really do think TC would benefit coming off the bench as an impact player against stretched defences. I’m surprised this option hasn’t been explored yet because he is a dangerous player at the end of the day.1 -
Too many people here that look at the score/stats only and don't watch the games.
Kelman was one of our better players today.20 -
"Anyone who has a different opinion to me doesn't watch the game". Right-o Gunnersauraus!SELR_addicks said:Too many people here that look at the score/stats only and don't watch the games.
Kelman was one of our better players today.
I thought Kelman had a decent enough game and put in a lot of effort. But, for those that are saying he just needs the chances, as someone said earlier, we put in a couple of really good crosses that were meat and drink for a predatory striker, and unfortunately he was nowhere near them.
I think we all want him to come good - and I haven't seen any comments hoping he will fail - but there will come a point where it's difficult to justify starting him every game. But as long as we are winning and the team is working well together, that time probably isn't right now.1 -
The only opinion that matters is that of NJ and if he's happy then I'm happy.5
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Thought Kelman’s all round play was very good today. He’s a very good footballer.He also showed last year he can finish with both feet and his head when presented with chances. As we become more established in this league and can play a more expansive game he will benefit.5
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We do seem to look better with Kelman on the pitch at the moment. Hard to tell if his blocked effort was going in today, but I did think the defender did very well and Charlie wasn’t particularly slow to shoot.
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