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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    And they are off again for rain. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    edited October 15
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than the 133 we eventually posted. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than 131. 
    ah ok
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    We have to bowl another 13.1 overs for a match. The irony is that had this match been reduced to 25 overs then Pakistan's target would have been about 60 off 20 overs which they would have reached before this latest deluge. 
  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    Looks like my Red position might be (luckily) nulled.
  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than 131. 
    ah ok
    DLS is a very clever (and fair) algorithm.

  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    England will be top of the table should it be rained off due to NRR above OZ
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,688
    Come on Fanny get those dancing shoes on.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    Zulu said:
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than 131. 
    ah ok
    DLS is a very clever (and fair) algorithm.

    Hmmm. I know that the S enhanced the DL method

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  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    Rained off.
  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    Zulu said:
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than 131. 
    ah ok
    DLS is a very clever (and fair) algorithm.

    Hmmm. I know that the S enhanced the DL method
    The S is Stern who updated and improved the DL method in 2014.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    Zulu said:
    Zulu said:
    133-9 (31) with 54 runs scored off those 6 overs. Waiting for confirmation of Pakistan's target but it's probably going to be 20 or so runs less than our total.

    The one area of concern might be the ability to grip the ball especially for the spinners. Pakistan's certainly struggled to land it in the right place post the break for rain.
    Why is it less? It's more like a T31 than a T50 so more like a T20 when the run rate is higher and you have less time to lose wickets
    It's less because we were 79-7 off 25 when the rain came i.e. the calculation takes into account the fact we were unlikely to see out 50 overs or post a meaningful target even if we had done so. Had we been 79-0, for example, then the target would have been more than 131. 
    ah ok
    DLS is a very clever (and fair) algorithm.

    Hmmm. I know that the S enhanced the DL method
    The S is Stern who updated and improved the DL method in 2014.
    Yep, aware of that and the change happening, just not up to speed with the algorithm - I was just being lazy and using just the initials and not the full names!
  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 108
    BAN v AUS today - BAN 73-1 off 17 yet AUS havnt moved from 1.04 all day !
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    edited October 16
    Australia won by 10 wickets with 202-0 off just 24.5 overs
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    Rudders22 said:
    Any ideas who the cricketer in his 40s in the news is? Clues not names if more appropriate? 
    I saw your comment and just had a look. Just says renowned English cricketer?  
    I have a guess, not sure why. Not really based on anything other than they are in their 40's, done a bit of commentating but not recently. But not based on anything concrete at the moment
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-15193843/England-coach-Ashes-Paul-Collingwood-disappearance-antics-voice-note.html

    Maybe?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,963
    Rudders22 said:
    Any ideas who the cricketer in his 40s in the news is? Clues not names if more appropriate? 
    I saw your comment and just had a look. Just says renowned English cricketer?  
    I have a guess, not sure why. Not really based on anything other than they are in their 40's, done a bit of commentating but not recently. But not based on anything concrete at the moment
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-15193843/England-coach-Ashes-Paul-Collingwood-disappearance-antics-voice-note.html

    Maybe?
    Whats this in relation to again?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,067
    edited October 17
    Rudders22 said:
    Any ideas who the cricketer in his 40s in the news is? Clues not names if more appropriate? 
    I saw your comment and just had a look. Just says renowned English cricketer?  
    I have a guess, not sure why. Not really based on anything other than they are in their 40's, done a bit of commentating but not recently. But not based on anything concrete at the moment
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-15193843/England-coach-Ashes-Paul-Collingwood-disappearance-antics-voice-note.html

    Maybe?
    Whats this in relation to again?
    Was a former player in their 40s under investigation earlier in the summer for an incident at a pub a few of the current squad own. Think Colly is probably too well known though for it to be him. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    MarcusH26 said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Any ideas who the cricketer in his 40s in the news is? Clues not names if more appropriate? 
    I saw your comment and just had a look. Just says renowned English cricketer?  
    I have a guess, not sure why. Not really based on anything other than they are in their 40's, done a bit of commentating but not recently. But not based on anything concrete at the moment
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-15193843/England-coach-Ashes-Paul-Collingwood-disappearance-antics-voice-note.html

    Maybe?
    Whats this in relation to again?
    Was a former player in their 40s under investigation earlier in the summer for an incident at a pub a few of the current squad own. Think Colly is probably too well known though for it to be him. 
    was just a thought when I saw the article today
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    So yet another game heading for abandonment. If you were South Africa you might be pretty damn furious with Sri Lanka 46-2 and England heading for defeat before their game was curtailed.

    Who could have been able to predict such weather at this time of year in what is Sri Lanka's monsoon season. Certainly not the ICC.  

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,242
    So yet another game heading for abandonment. If you were South Africa you might be pretty damn furious with Sri Lanka 46-2 and England heading for defeat before their game was curtailed.

    Who could have been able to predict such weather at this time of year in what is Sri Lanka's monsoon season. Certainly not the ICC.  
    Sunny all day until just after the toss apparently too 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,470
    So yet another game heading for abandonment. If you were South Africa you might be pretty damn furious with Sri Lanka 46-2 and England heading for defeat before their game was curtailed.

    Who could have been able to predict such weather at this time of year in what is Sri Lanka's monsoon season. Certainly not the ICC.  
    I checked and October is one of the wettest months in Colombo.

    Anyone would think it was an advantage to any team only playing there once with the other teams playing at least twice in Sri Lanka - a high chance at least 1 if not 2 of the other top teams would lose a point or 2 from a no result, meaning more chance the team only playing there once would read the semis
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829

    England have appointed David Saker as their fast-bowling coach for the Ashes. Southee, England’s present fast-bowling coach, will leave the squad after the first Test in Australia to play T20 cricket in the UAE. Saker will be in place for England’s warm-up fixture against the Lions, where he and Southee will work together until Southee departs.

    England have also confirmed that Paul Collingwood, who was absent from the coaching staff this summer owing to personal reasons, will not be part of the touring party.

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    England put in by NZ and are 12-1 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    The England side is a procession of hitters - Salt, Buttler, Bethell, Brook, Banton, Curran, Cox, Carse, Dawson, Rashid & Wood (L). They won't die wondering that's for certain. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    64-3 (8.1) with Bethell and Brook the latest to depart
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    75-3 (10)

    Buttler 26* (21)
    Banton 9* (8)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    Banton goes first ball after drinks
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    81-5 (11.2). Buttler the latest to go. There's a danger we won't be using up our overs!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,829
    We're really struggling to score off the slower ball cutters that NZ have utilised as their stock ball

    109-5 (16)