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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,679
    Rob7Lee said:
    Tories to scrap Stamp Duty if they get into power next time.

    And they talk about the other parties & the money tree. I'll have to ask my son to see if they sell them at his Garden Centre. (Dobbies in Keston......as frequented by Fred Sirieix, Rio Ferdinand & Peter Varney !)
    And a certain Rob7Lee!

    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    He does, but I'm ahead of him, a little over 2/3rds of SIPP now in cash (probably 70% of that was in US S&P500 or NASDAQ ETF's), never a bad time to bank profit in my book. S&S ISA also has very little now in the US.

    Gold is still going crazy, starting to get very tempted to cash some in, but then what........ ISA's are full, Premium bonds are full, Pensions maxed out (I could maybe get another £2k into my wife's).
    Investment Bond ?  VCT ? If only three was a  IFA you could speak to 😂😂😂
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,599
    Rob7Lee said:
    Tories to scrap Stamp Duty if they get into power next time.

    And they talk about the other parties & the money tree. I'll have to ask my son to see if they sell them at his Garden Centre. (Dobbies in Keston......as frequented by Fred Sirieix, Rio Ferdinand & Peter Varney !)
    And a certain Rob7Lee!

    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    He does, but I'm ahead of him, a little over 2/3rds of SIPP now in cash (probably 70% of that was in US S&P500 or NASDAQ ETF's), never a bad time to bank profit in my book. S&S ISA also has very little now in the US.

    Gold is still going crazy, starting to get very tempted to cash some in, but then what........ ISA's are full, Premium bonds are full, Pensions maxed out (I could maybe get another £2k into my wife's).
    Investment Bond ?  VCT ? If only three was a  IFA you could speak to 😂😂😂
    I'll message you at some point, work are wanting to change my contract from early in the new year which will mean I may need to find a home for some more. Not keen on VCT's though at my age.
  • All, I just have to recommend this podcast I have raced through: Coining It, presented (brilliantly IMO) by Lewis Goodall. It involves Bitcoin and Blackpool, more than that re the content I won’t divulge, just to say that a lot of it was simply jaw-dropping, and throughout, exactly as the presenter intends, the listener faces the constant challenge “What would YOU do?” . One other subsidiary question it left me with was how the **** the town of Fleetwood sustains an EFL level footie club.

    Enjoy! 

    Have you ever listened to "word on the street" podcast? If not, maybe worth a try.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,679
    edited October 10
    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    Maybe happening sooner than even he thought.

    Since 4pm markets have dropped sharply. FTSE100 down almost 1% after fairly benign trading all day. Dow Jones down 0.85%, S&P down 1.35% and the tech stock heavy Nasdaq down 1.9%. Not massive falls but anyone looking at graphs will see its heavy selling off.
  • bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    Maybe happening sooner than even he thought.

    Since 4pm markets have dropped sharply. FTSE100 down almost 1% after fairly benign trading all day. Dow Jones down 0.85%, S&P down 1.35% and the tech stock heavy Nasdaq down 1.9%. Not massive falls but anyone looking at graphs will see its heavy selling off.
    Isn’t that mostly down to trump posting about China tariffs? Trump led dips are a gift.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,679
    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    Maybe happening sooner than even he thought.

    Since 4pm markets have dropped sharply. FTSE100 down almost 1% after fairly benign trading all day. Dow Jones down 0.85%, S&P down 1.35% and the tech stock heavy Nasdaq down 1.9%. Not massive falls but anyone looking at graphs will see its heavy selling off.
    Isn’t that mostly down to trump posting about China tariffs? Trump led dips are a gift.
    Probably. Before posting I had been looking to see what news might have sparked it off. Couldn't see anything major on BBC or the Financial pages though. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,599
    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    Maybe happening sooner than even he thought.

    Since 4pm markets have dropped sharply. FTSE100 down almost 1% after fairly benign trading all day. Dow Jones down 0.85%, S&P down 1.35% and the tech stock heavy Nasdaq down 1.9%. Not massive falls but anyone looking at graphs will see its heavy selling off.
    Isn’t that mostly down to trump posting about China tariffs? Trump led dips are a gift.
    Probably. Before posting I had been looking to see what news might have sparked it off. Couldn't see anything major on BBC or the Financial pages though. 
    Sorry people, clearly been my big SIPP sell off that has caused market jitters!
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    One man opens his mouth
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,109
    bobmunro said:
    Words of warning? I get the impression he knows what he's talking about!


    Maybe happening sooner than even he thought.

    Since 4pm markets have dropped sharply. FTSE100 down almost 1% after fairly benign trading all day. Dow Jones down 0.85%, S&P down 1.35% and the tech stock heavy Nasdaq down 1.9%. Not massive falls but anyone looking at graphs will see its heavy selling off.
    Isn’t that mostly down to trump posting about China tariffs? Trump led dips are a gift.
    Remove the f out of the last word. He's only helping his friends who knew the drop was coming. I lost 1.6% yesterday. 🥲

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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854
    Great opportunity to buy equities at a discount before he inevitably backs down or gets what he wants. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 315
    edited October 11
    Huskaris said:
    Great opportunity to buy equities at a discount before he inevitably backs down or gets what he wants. 
    Exactly what I said earlier. Great time to buy dips. 

    Re ai, I’m not convinced it’s the same as the dot com bubble. Yes there are some similarities, but the majority of companies involved in the bubble are either private companies (so bubble bursting would only affect how much money they can raise) and businesses like nvidia, who already have a very profitable non ai related business anyway. It’s not like there’s companies that are being listed and bought up that essentially just have an idea, which is what happened during the dot com bubble. 

    Crypto market also had the biggest liquidation event in its history yesterday, if you’re looking to get exposed to it now might be a good time. Especially altcoins.
  • Rob7Lee said:
    It's been a while, 3 months to go:

    FTSE100 Level9,284.83  
    NameLevelVariance% Variance
    Hornchurch92759.830.11%
    meldrew66930116.170.17%
    Housty925430.830.33%
    blackpool72924539.830.43%
    TheGhostofTomHovi923648.830.53%
    WHAddick933550.170.54%
    CharltonKerry923450.830.55%
    Covered End922064.830.70%
    Carter921272.830.78%
    StrikerFirmani936580.170.86%
    Jamescafc920084.830.91%
    Addickinedi9176108.831.17%
    cafcpolo9395110.171.19%
    Diebythesword9400115.171.24%
    RalphMilne9168116.831.26%
    valleynick669165119.831.29%
    guinnessaddick9152132.831.43%
    Addick Addict9424139.171.50%
    thecat9136148.831.60%
    IdleHans9434149.171.61%
    @TelMc329450165.171.78%
    fat man on a moped9116168.831.82%
    wwaddick9104180.831.95%
    golfaddick9101183.831.98%
    WishIdStayedInThe Pub9101183.831.98%
    Jon_CAFC_9088196.832.12%
    BalladMan9058226.832.44%
    Arsenetatters9525240.172.59%
    Huskaris9025259.832.80%
    Solidgone9021263.832.84%
    Rob7Lee9000284.833.07%
    Bangkokaddick8998286.833.09%
    Pedro458925359.833.88%
    Friend or Defoe9657372.174.01%
    LargeAddick8884400.834.32%
    Redman8876408.834.40%
    Jints9750465.175.01%
    holyjo8810474.835.11%
    Thread Killer9761476.175.13%
    PragueAddick8725559.836.03%
    CAFCWest8621663.837.15%
    Fortune 82nd Minute8571713.837.69%
    HardyAddick8548736.837.94%
    bobmunro8452832.838.97%
    Lenglover8301983.8310.60%
    Siv_In_Norfolk74001884.8320.30%
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch 65002784.8329.99%

    Has to be said my guess wasn't looking too good but a quick word with the Donald and I should be back in the game on Monday. Unfortunately. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,599
    Rob7Lee said:
    It's been a while, 3 months to go:

    FTSE100 Level9,284.83  
    NameLevelVariance% Variance
    Hornchurch92759.830.11%
    meldrew66930116.170.17%
    Housty925430.830.33%
    blackpool72924539.830.43%
    TheGhostofTomHovi923648.830.53%
    WHAddick933550.170.54%
    CharltonKerry923450.830.55%
    Covered End922064.830.70%
    Carter921272.830.78%
    StrikerFirmani936580.170.86%
    Jamescafc920084.830.91%
    Addickinedi9176108.831.17%
    cafcpolo9395110.171.19%
    Diebythesword9400115.171.24%
    RalphMilne9168116.831.26%
    valleynick669165119.831.29%
    guinnessaddick9152132.831.43%
    Addick Addict9424139.171.50%
    thecat9136148.831.60%
    IdleHans9434149.171.61%
    @TelMc329450165.171.78%
    fat man on a moped9116168.831.82%
    wwaddick9104180.831.95%
    golfaddick9101183.831.98%
    WishIdStayedInThe Pub9101183.831.98%
    Jon_CAFC_9088196.832.12%
    BalladMan9058226.832.44%
    Arsenetatters9525240.172.59%
    Huskaris9025259.832.80%
    Solidgone9021263.832.84%
    Rob7Lee9000284.833.07%
    Bangkokaddick8998286.833.09%
    Pedro458925359.833.88%
    Friend or Defoe9657372.174.01%
    LargeAddick8884400.834.32%
    Redman8876408.834.40%
    Jints9750465.175.01%
    holyjo8810474.835.11%
    Thread Killer9761476.175.13%
    PragueAddick8725559.836.03%
    CAFCWest8621663.837.15%
    Fortune 82nd Minute8571713.837.69%
    HardyAddick8548736.837.94%
    bobmunro8452832.838.97%
    Lenglover8301983.8310.60%
    Siv_In_Norfolk74001884.8320.30%
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch 65002784.8329.99%

    Has to be said my guess wasn't looking too good but a quick word with the Donald and I should be back in the game on Monday. Unfortunately. 
    Indeed, I think we are going to see another 6 months of this competition where at one point pretty much everyone will have been winning!
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,963
    Expect a rebound, as apparently Mr Trump has said everything will be fine😀
  • Rob7Lee said:
    It's been a while, 3 months to go:

    FTSE100 Level9,284.83  
    NameLevelVariance% Variance
    Hornchurch92759.830.11%
    meldrew66930116.170.17%
    Housty925430.830.33%
    blackpool72924539.830.43%
    TheGhostofTomHovi923648.830.53%
    WHAddick933550.170.54%
    CharltonKerry923450.830.55%
    Covered End922064.830.70%
    Carter921272.830.78%
    StrikerFirmani936580.170.86%
    Jamescafc920084.830.91%
    Addickinedi9176108.831.17%
    cafcpolo9395110.171.19%
    Diebythesword9400115.171.24%
    RalphMilne9168116.831.26%
    valleynick669165119.831.29%
    guinnessaddick9152132.831.43%
    Addick Addict9424139.171.50%
    thecat9136148.831.60%
    IdleHans9434149.171.61%
    @TelMc329450165.171.78%
    fat man on a moped9116168.831.82%
    wwaddick9104180.831.95%
    golfaddick9101183.831.98%
    WishIdStayedInThe Pub9101183.831.98%
    Jon_CAFC_9088196.832.12%
    BalladMan9058226.832.44%
    Arsenetatters9525240.172.59%
    Huskaris9025259.832.80%
    Solidgone9021263.832.84%
    Rob7Lee9000284.833.07%
    Bangkokaddick8998286.833.09%
    Pedro458925359.833.88%
    Friend or Defoe9657372.174.01%
    LargeAddick8884400.834.32%
    Redman8876408.834.40%
    Jints9750465.175.01%
    holyjo8810474.835.11%
    Thread Killer9761476.175.13%
    PragueAddick8725559.836.03%
    CAFCWest8621663.837.15%
    Fortune 82nd Minute8571713.837.69%
    HardyAddick8548736.837.94%
    bobmunro8452832.838.97%
    Lenglover8301983.8310.60%
    Siv_In_Norfolk74001884.8320.30%
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch 65002784.8329.99%

    Has to be said my guess wasn't looking too good but a quick word with the Donald and I should be back in the game on Monday. Unfortunately. 
    Am I missing something or has the FTSE risen quite comfortably this morning?

    Where is the collapse the Donald promised me?
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,963
    Rob7Lee said:
    It's been a while, 3 months to go:

    FTSE100 Level9,284.83  
    NameLevelVariance% Variance
    Hornchurch92759.830.11%
    meldrew66930116.170.17%
    Housty925430.830.33%
    blackpool72924539.830.43%
    TheGhostofTomHovi923648.830.53%
    WHAddick933550.170.54%
    CharltonKerry923450.830.55%
    Covered End922064.830.70%
    Carter921272.830.78%
    StrikerFirmani936580.170.86%
    Jamescafc920084.830.91%
    Addickinedi9176108.831.17%
    cafcpolo9395110.171.19%
    Diebythesword9400115.171.24%
    RalphMilne9168116.831.26%
    valleynick669165119.831.29%
    guinnessaddick9152132.831.43%
    Addick Addict9424139.171.50%
    thecat9136148.831.60%
    IdleHans9434149.171.61%
    @TelMc329450165.171.78%
    fat man on a moped9116168.831.82%
    wwaddick9104180.831.95%
    golfaddick9101183.831.98%
    WishIdStayedInThe Pub9101183.831.98%
    Jon_CAFC_9088196.832.12%
    BalladMan9058226.832.44%
    Arsenetatters9525240.172.59%
    Huskaris9025259.832.80%
    Solidgone9021263.832.84%
    Rob7Lee9000284.833.07%
    Bangkokaddick8998286.833.09%
    Pedro458925359.833.88%
    Friend or Defoe9657372.174.01%
    LargeAddick8884400.834.32%
    Redman8876408.834.40%
    Jints9750465.175.01%
    holyjo8810474.835.11%
    Thread Killer9761476.175.13%
    PragueAddick8725559.836.03%
    CAFCWest8621663.837.15%
    Fortune 82nd Minute8571713.837.69%
    HardyAddick8548736.837.94%
    bobmunro8452832.838.97%
    Lenglover8301983.8310.60%
    Siv_In_Norfolk74001884.8320.30%
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch 65002784.8329.99%

    Has to be said my guess wasn't looking too good but a quick word with the Donald and I should be back in the game on Monday. Unfortunately. 
    Am I missing something or has the FTSE risen quite comfortably this morning?

    Where is the collapse the Donald promised me?
    Looks like he’s found reverse gear earlier than normal.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,978
    The markets are learning slowly that TACO rolls back on his bluster very quickly once he realises that he's not holding any cards. 
    China restricts its output of rare earth minerals so genius Donnie retaliates by imposing more taxes on his own people. Have that, Xi!

    Friday's drop was, as ever, overdone.  Markets were inevitably going to rebound to an extent today.
  • Expect a rebound, as apparently Mr Trump has said everything will be fine😀
    Us futures already recovered about half the drop from Friday. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,599
    Expect a rebound, as apparently Mr Trump has said everything will be fine😀
    Us futures already recovered about half the drop from Friday. 
    They’ll open up, just a case of where.

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,679
    More than half of Friday's losses in the US were made up today. 

    Nothing to see here.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854
    I'm up 23.36% over 12 months
    17.63% YTD
    30.18% over 6 months
    8.47% over past month. 

    Bought my first bit of gold and silver in an ETF, bit I didn't want to do a full portfolio rebalance, so precious metals currently around 0.2% of my portfolio. 

    I refuse to buy crypto, for a variety of reasons that I don't see a need to get into as I don't want to yuk someone's yum, but I hold the wisdomtree Blockchain etf which invests in companies involved in crypto, about 4-5% of my total portfolio (reducing it to 2-3%), it's gone absolutely nuts, up 117% in 6 months. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,109
    Huskaris said:
    I'm up 23.36% over 12 months
    17.63% YTD
    30.18% over 6 months
    8.47% over past month. 

    Bought my first bit of gold and silver in an ETF, bit I didn't want to do a full portfolio rebalance, so precious metals currently around 0.2% of my portfolio. 

    I refuse to buy crypto, for a variety of reasons that I don't see a need to get into as I don't want to yuk someone's yum, but I hold the wisdomtree Blockchain etf which invests in companies involved in crypto, about 4-5% of my total portfolio (reducing it to 2-3%), it's gone absolutely nuts, up 117% in 6 months. 
    Not sure how your 6 month is so high?! I'm about the same YTD (16.5%) but only 2.5% over the month. I'm still about 1% down from where i was on Friday.

    Crpyto seems like a scam to me. Very volatile (I guess like Trump!) And i don't fully understand what it is to be frank. That said i did meet someone at a party who made £2m from it before most of us had heard of it. He's cashed in and has retired off of it.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854
    Huskaris said:
    I'm up 23.36% over 12 months
    17.63% YTD
    30.18% over 6 months
    8.47% over past month. 

    Bought my first bit of gold and silver in an ETF, bit I didn't want to do a full portfolio rebalance, so precious metals currently around 0.2% of my portfolio. 

    I refuse to buy crypto, for a variety of reasons that I don't see a need to get into as I don't want to yuk someone's yum, but I hold the wisdomtree Blockchain etf which invests in companies involved in crypto, about 4-5% of my total portfolio (reducing it to 2-3%), it's gone absolutely nuts, up 117% in 6 months. 
    Not sure how your 6 month is so high?! I'm about the same YTD (16.5%) but only 2.5% over the month. I'm still about 1% down from where i was on Friday.

    Crpyto seems like a scam to me. Very volatile (I guess like Trump!) And i don't fully understand what it is to be frank. That said i did meet someone at a party who made £2m from it before most of us had heard of it. He's cashed in and has retired off of it.
    The 6m is post that crash we had so only the upside of YTD. 

    Agree on Crypto. I met a guy who made $2m, stayed in too long and lost it all. For every winner, there's several losers, and the winners are much louder than the losers!
  • Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
    I don't think it's a good idea to think about crypto in that way. Gold has intrinsic value. It is used to make jewellery and similar which retain or increase their value over time. 

    Bitcoin is just a name. As is Melaniacoin, Turdcoin, etc. And please don't tell me it's a currency. When did you last buy something with bitcoin? And if you did buy something, was the item something you want to fess up to on a public platform?
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854
    Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
    I don't think it's a good idea to think about crypto in that way. Gold has intrinsic value. It is used to make jewellery and similar which retain or increase their value over time. 

    Bitcoin is just a name. As is Melaniacoin, Turdcoin, etc. And please don't tell me it's a currency. When did you last buy something with bitcoin? And if you did buy something, was the item something you want to fess up to on a public platform?
    Gold is also a fantastic protection against currency debasement.  

    And to respond to your question, 2 months ago, and no I won't tell you what it was  :D
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
    I don't think it's a good idea to think about crypto in that way. Gold has intrinsic value. It is used to make jewellery and similar which retain or increase their value over time. 

    Bitcoin is just a name. As is Melaniacoin, Turdcoin, etc. And please don't tell me it's a currency. When did you last buy something with bitcoin? And if you did buy something, was the item something you want to fess up to on a public platform?
    Just shows how behind the times the Uk is though, it’s used as currency in multiple other countries for fully legal and above board transactions. 


  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,109
    Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
    FCA regulated crypto is interesting. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,679
    Think of crypto like digital assets (a digital gold etc). Iirc FCA have relaxed their rules so you can now begin to invest in regulated bitcoin products with your SIPP and stocks and shares isa. Think it’s worth having small exposure to tbh. 
    FCA regulated crypto is interesting. 
    I've got a few to sell you. Minimum investment is £100. Let me just get my shovel & I'll dig up a few to show you 🤔