Planning permission for an extra tier on The Curbside?

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Airman Brown said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

sam3110 said:

It's similar to St. James in that respect, they have 2 massive stands but can't develop the other 2 due to restrictions. Due to the nature of The Valley and the surrounding area you can probably build the JS almost as big as you want, and given the space behind the West Stand, I reckon that could also go bigger if absolutely needed, without the need for anything on the Curbside 

The West Stand does offer more options for further expansion but i doubt we would need to go down that route in any foreseeable future. 

What the West Stand car park does offer at this moment in time though is the space to build an extension at the back of the West Stand to house additional hospitality suites.

The club struggled to sell the amount of hospitality it had in the Premier League. Things move on but I wouldn’t just assume there is an unlimited market. 

It’s definitely moved on since then and fans/people are willing to pay up for hospitality packages. As I mentioned elsewhere the prices that they are willing to pay for single games in the PL can be more than most of us are paying for our season tickets, certainly those of us on the Lower North, but I've heard numbers for big games that surpass the cost of STs in the other Valley stands.

We definitely need to be ready to tap into that if and when we go up but if we maintain and improve on the crowds we've been getting so far in the Championship then we should be selling out the hospitality packages we have so far and already looking to expand capacity for them.

This.

A Spurs mate of mine has got a special birthday coming up and I thought about treating him to some hospitality for a forthcoming Spurs home match. That is until I saw the prices! They are breathtaking and made what I paid for hospitality at Wembley for the last play off game look a bargain!

And for the popular games it all looks pretty much sold out!

It's the future I'm afraid.

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

SoundAsa£ said:

se9addick said:

The main obstacle is that it would be an insane waste of money currently!

Well yes, I think that’s a given.
It’s something for the future of course……I doubt I’ll live long enough to see it happen anyway.
The reality is that if it was to be deemed impossible then The Valley (as things stand), will never hold more than approximately 30,000.
For a well established London Premiership club, that’s not going to be acceptable. IMHO.😕

Palace (13 years)
Fulham (4 years)
Brentford (5 years)

All have capacities below 30k and are doing just fine.

There's also Brighton (9 years) who have a capacity of just under 32k, which we would get above by filling the corners in. 

That’s a business plan relying upon there being 3 worse teams every season and your scouts continuing to uncover some real cut price gems of players to replace the ones that get poached and having a manager that can get the team punching above its weight. Palace have long outstayed their welcome, mostly because of Woy, Brentford have lost the manager that transformed them, Fulham and Brighton had some yo-yo seasons to sort themselves out but few clubs make that approach pay.

Ok but you appear to be making a point about something entirely different to this thread. We're not discussing a teams ability to stay in the league.

The point i replied to was that a 30k capacity for a well established London Premier league club isn't acceptable. But clearly it is perfectly acceptable because of the incredible tv money that PL teams get. The team that finishes bottom of the premier league earns more in tv revenue than Bayern Munich.

The revenues a club can generate on top of the tv money are fundamental to staying in the PL. Ipswich made a £39 million loss in their last season in the Championship. The parachute money of £48m and £38m (?) they will get won’t go that far.

not sure it worked out too well for Luton getting parachute money.