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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash
    TeeC said:
    Put this in another thread but adding it here for the record / CAST rep:

    Unfortunately I was at the bottom of those stairs with my eight year old son and his friend as that gate opened. There was a panic and people tried to run… like when someone gets shot. I grabbed their hands said ‘we’ll be fine but hold my hand and let’s walk up the stairs quickly’. I looked straight ahead but my son looked back and said he saw a group on Millwall fans attacking a single Charlton fan, and that he felt really sorry for that fan.

    He was petrified and is still distraught now. Wouldn’t let me leave his room at bed time.

    Can’t lie, I’m fucking furious and will be making a complaint. 
    And despite it kicking off NO POLICE turned up. 

    Gross negligence in their operations yesterday, Plenty of police at the ground, but very poorly allocated.
  • jose
    jose
    JohnnyH2 said:
    jose said:
    The supporters trust is a good and worthwhile organisation, run by volunteers.
    Any critics would I am sure be welcome to join, to stand or volunteer for any office, and do things better.
    The trust can only hope to influence, not control.
    It's also a democratically run organisation. As a paid up member if I have an issue I should be allowed to raise it in a forum that is meant to be about our football club.
    Absolutely.
    Nobody would deny you the right to raise issues.
    Has something happened that has denied you the right to raise something?
    A good reminder that it is indeed a democratically run organisation ‘staffed’ by volunteers.

  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    Steve Kavanagh or Kav to some left a long time ago.

    In the same way Mick Everitt still works at Charlton despite people saying he has left us
    About one day a week, I believe. He is matchday safety officer but he isn’t in charge of operations and hasn’t been for many years. And his name is Everett!
    But he has not left unlike what was claimed by those in the know on Friday
    You mean me, so why not say so?. And I wasnt  “in the know” obviously. So what? So Kav is no longer there. Does it mean that suddenly the two clubs have declared all out war on each other? All I was suggesting (not “claiming”) is that if the club wanted to do it with Millwall like Saints are doing with Pompey they could hike the prices but try to persuade Millwall that its the only fair way to keep their lout element under control. What the fuck is wrong with suggesting that on here? Got any better ideas?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick
    fenaddick said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    You’d have to charge the CE Lower 30% more too 
    Why?  Some regulation I am not aware of? If so, is that happening today at St Mary’s?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown
    edited September 14
    PragueAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    You’d have to charge the CE Lower 30% more too 
    Why?  Some regulation I am not aware of? If so, is that happening today at St Mary’s?
    It’s a well known EFL rule. The Millwall tickets were £30, not £35 as some have said, for this reason.

    Cheapest adult tickets (outside family area) at Southampton today were £40. They are charging £30 for Middlesbrough, so that tallies with a one third uplift.
  • Croydon
    Croydon
    edited September 14
    fenaddick said:
    Bubble games are a bit silly in this modern world where people don’t live in the local area of the club they support anyway 
    Not really the case for one club cities, hence why they are used for south coast, south Wales, and Chester v Wrexham.

    Our game is nowhere near the levels of aggro you'd get at these fixtures anyway.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    PragueAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    You’d have to charge the CE Lower 30% more too 
    Why?  Some regulation I am not aware of? If so, is that happening today at St Mary’s?
    You have to charge away fans the price of the equivalent seat in the home end. No idea what’s happening at St Mary’s but wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a regulation about being able to pass on increased police costs or maybe they’re being charged for the coach too 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle
    YTS1978 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    YTS1978 said:
    Not into that sort of shit myself, but I think Charlton surprised Millwall all over the place today. Whatever floats your boat i guess. Had a couple of pints in the oak post match and walked up Floyd Road to the station. Fella on the platform said a couple of groups were going at it outside the fans bar. But not a copper in sight!

    The spanner probably jumped the queue and got served without waiting.
    Probably still had to wait about 10mins to get a beer!
    Not yesterday.  Place was packed and service was brilliant. 
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    Bubble games are a bit silly in this modern world where people don’t live in the local area of the club they support anyway 
    Not really the case for one club cities, hence why they are used for south coast, south Wales, and Chester v Wrexham.

    Our game is incomparable to the level of aggro you'd get at these fixtures anyway.
    It’s a well documented issue for the south Wales one that you end up with a large % of the away fans going past the actual match get to their home stadium and then having to do it again. It’s farcical 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo
    Remember being held back as an away suppoter for upto an hour, at a few grounds back in the 90's. Stamford Bridge and Hillsborough both spring to mind. It was always at least 20 minutes, apart from Bolton that time.....


  • Croydon
    Croydon
    fenaddick said:
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    Bubble games are a bit silly in this modern world where people don’t live in the local area of the club they support anyway 
    Not really the case for one club cities, hence why they are used for south coast, south Wales, and Chester v Wrexham.

    Our game is incomparable to the level of aggro you'd get at these fixtures anyway.
    It’s a well documented issue for the south Wales one that you end up with a large % of the away fans going past the actual match get to their home stadium and then having to do it again. It’s farcical 
    A large %? Sorry but I don't believe that. There's no chance the majority of Swansea/Cardiff fans aren't living nearer their own city. 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2
    jose said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    jose said:
    The supporters trust is a good and worthwhile organisation, run by volunteers.
    Any critics would I am sure be welcome to join, to stand or volunteer for any office, and do things better.
    The trust can only hope to influence, not control.
    It's also a democratically run organisation. As a paid up member if I have an issue I should be allowed to raise it in a forum that is meant to be about our football club.
    Absolutely.
    Nobody would deny you the right to raise issues.
    Has something happened that has denied you the right to raise something?
    A good reminder that it is indeed a democratically run organisation ‘staffed’ by volunteers.

    Sure has, a previous Chair when I was talking about KM at an AGM I was told "you still going on".

    Yes I was going on about an incompetent CEO for Charlton at a Charlton Supporters Trust meeting
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick
    edited September 14
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    Steve Kavanagh or Kav to some left a long time ago.

    In the same way Mick Everitt still works at Charlton despite people saying he has left us
    About one day a week, I believe. He is matchday safety officer but he isn’t in charge of operations and hasn’t been for many years. And his name is Everett!
    But he has not left unlike what was claimed by those in the know on Friday
    You mean me, so why not say so?. And I wasnt  “in the know” obviously. So what? So Kav is no longer there. Does it mean that suddenly the two clubs have declared all out war on each other? All I was suggesting (not “claiming”) is that if the club wanted to do it with Millwall like Saints are doing with Pompey they could hike the prices but try to persuade Millwall that its the only fair way to keep their lout element under control. What the fuck is wrong with suggesting that on here? Got any better ideas?
    I have lots of ideas which I have already shared.

    I was simply pointing out you was wrong that 'Kav' is no longer employed there when you were claiming he was and we should go to him.

    As for "MickE" you were not the only one to make that error. But happy to clarify you were also wrong on that.

    As for in the know, on Friday you were quite rightly furious with the arrangements. After the game yesterday you said you had spoken to someone senior and was saying their was nothing the club could do in terms of letting supporters know, which to me felt like a gear shift. I disagree with with that idea, but I have not spoken to anyone senior as I'm not in the know, just an ordinary go to game supporter.,who wants the best for all our go to game supporters

    Perhaps I should have made more clear whom I spoke to. A fan who is generally well in touch with what’s going on inside the club, whom I trust. Not a club employee, senior or otherwise. It was my own interpretation that it would have left the club with little or no chance to get the info out. On further reflection they probably could and should have done more; but I still strongly believe that they should never have been put in that position by the police, and this should not happen again.

    As for your last sentence, sure I’m not a go to game supporter, I’m a go to a game whenever I am over supporter. But I’m also 71, and while I can’t claim to have been home and away every game, ever, I’ve been away in the years when it wasn’t easy, chased out of Mansfield, sitting in a football special leaving Barnsley with sheets over the windows because of regular bricking attacks, among other memories. So of course I want the best for all our go to game supporters too. What leads you to think I want different things?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick
    Airman Brown said:
    PragueAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    You’d have to charge the CE Lower 30% more too 
    Why?  Some regulation I am not aware of? If so, is that happening today at St Mary’s?
    It’s a well known EFL rule. The Millwall tickets were £30, not £35 as some have said, for this reason.

    Cheapest adult tickets (outside family area) at Southampton today were £40. They are charging £30 for Middlesbrough, so that tallies with a one third uplift.
    So, what’s your view on the idea of  limiting Spanner allocation in future, as one of the possible measures to stop yesterday happening again? Good, or not, and with price increase or not? 
  • Markg2004
    Markg2004
    edited September 14
    Police will do what is easier. Always have done. 

    There is no accountability. That's what is looks like anyway.

    Any result other than a loss for Millwall and they were never going to be quick to leave. That is obvious.

    Who decided the arrangement, local police at Greenwich or a higher up in the Met?
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis
    Markg2004 said:
    Police will do what is easier. Always have done. 

    There is no accountability. That's what is looks like anyway.

    Any result other than a loss for Millwall and they were never going to be quick to leave. That is obvious.

    Who decided the arrangement, local police at Greenwich or a higher up in the Met?
    Each club in London has a dedicated team. They used to be based locally and it was 100% the only job they did. But it was centralised years ago and moved up to the old NSY. No idea where the football policing unit is based now.

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    Steve Kavanagh or Kav to some left a long time ago.

    In the same way Mick Everitt still works at Charlton despite people saying he has left us
    About one day a week, I believe. He is matchday safety officer but he isn’t in charge of operations and hasn’t been for many years. And his name is Everett!
    But he has not left unlike what was claimed by those in the know on Friday
    You mean me, so why not say so?. And I wasnt  “in the know” obviously. So what? So Kav is no longer there. Does it mean that suddenly the two clubs have declared all out war on each other? All I was suggesting (not “claiming”) is that if the club wanted to do it with Millwall like Saints are doing with Pompey they could hike the prices but try to persuade Millwall that its the only fair way to keep their lout element under control. What the fuck is wrong with suggesting that on here? Got any better ideas?
    I have lots of ideas which I have already shared.

    I was simply pointing out you was wrong that 'Kav' is no longer employed there when you were claiming he was and we should go to him.

    As for "MickE" you were not the only one to make that error. But happy to clarify you were also wrong on that.

    As for in the know, on Friday you were quite rightly furious with the arrangements. After the game yesterday you said you had spoken to someone senior and was saying their was nothing the club could do in terms of letting supporters know, which to me felt like a gear shift. I disagree with with that idea, but I have not spoken to anyone senior as I'm not in the know, just an ordinary go to game supporter.,who wants the best for all our go to game supporters

    Perhaps I should have made more clear whom I spoke to. A fan who is generally well in touch with what’s going on inside the club, whom I trust. Not a club employee, senior or otherwise. It was my own interpretation that it would have left the club with little or no chance to get the info out. On further reflection they probably could and should have done more; but I still strongly believe that they should never have been put in that position by the police, and this should not happen again.

    As for your last sentence, sure I’m not a go to game supporter, I’m a go to a game whenever I am over supporter. But I’m also 71, and while I can’t claim to have been home and away every game, ever, I’ve been away in the years when it wasn’t easy, chased out of Mansfield, sitting in a football special leaving Barnsley with sheets over the windows because of regular bricking attacks, among other memories. So of course I want the best for all our go to game supporters too. What leads you to think I want different things?
    Never said anything about your own game attendance. My main concern on this and all supporter related issues (ticket allocations and games being moved) is always with those who go and who should always be the number one priority 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan
    KBslittlesis said:
    Markg2004 said:
    Police will do what is easier. Always have done. 

    There is no accountability. That's what is looks like anyway.

    Any result other than a loss for Millwall and they were never going to be quick to leave. That is obvious.

    Who decided the arrangement, local police at Greenwich or a higher up in the Met?
    Each club in London has a dedicated team. They used to be based locally and it was 100% the only job they did. But it was centralised years ago and moved up to the old NSY. No idea where the football policing unit is based now.

    It's obvious that the majority of those on duty yesterday were unfamiliar with the area.

    When announcements/guidance yesterday was in short supply and many fans exiting the Ground unclear as to the route they should take, it's clearly unhelpful if those on duty merely respond with a  "Can't help you, I'm afraid" as I overheard on the diversion back to our car. 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    Steve Kavanagh or Kav to some left a long time ago.

    In the same way Mick Everitt still works at Charlton despite people saying he has left us
    About one day a week, I believe. He is matchday safety officer but he isn’t in charge of operations and hasn’t been for many years. And his name is Everett!
    But he has not left unlike what was claimed by those in the know on Friday
    You mean me, so why not say so?. And I wasnt  “in the know” obviously. So what? So Kav is no longer there. Does it mean that suddenly the two clubs have declared all out war on each other? All I was suggesting (not “claiming”) is that if the club wanted to do it with Millwall like Saints are doing with Pompey they could hike the prices but try to persuade Millwall that its the only fair way to keep their lout element under control. What the fuck is wrong with suggesting that on here? Got any better ideas?
    I have lots of ideas which I have already shared.

    I was simply pointing out you was wrong that 'Kav' is no longer employed there when you were claiming he was and we should go to him.

    As for "MickE" you were not the only one to make that error. But happy to clarify you were also wrong on that.

    As for in the know, on Friday you were quite rightly furious with the arrangements. After the game yesterday you said you had spoken to someone senior and was saying their was nothing the club could do in terms of letting supporters know, which to me felt like a gear shift. I disagree with with that idea, but I have not spoken to anyone senior as I'm not in the know, just an ordinary go to game supporter.,who wants the best for all our go to game supporters

    Perhaps I should have made more clear whom I spoke to. A fan who is generally well in touch with what’s going on inside the club, whom I trust. Not a club employee, senior or otherwise. It was my own interpretation that it would have left the club with little or no chance to get the info out. On further reflection they probably could and should have done more; but I still strongly believe that they should never have been put in that position by the police, and this should not happen again.

    As for your last sentence, sure I’m not a go to game supporter, I’m a go to a game whenever I am over supporter. But I’m also 71, and while I can’t claim to have been home and away every game, ever, I’ve been away in the years when it wasn’t easy, chased out of Mansfield, sitting in a football special leaving Barnsley with sheets over the windows because of regular bricking attacks, among other memories. So of course I want the best for all our go to game supporters too. What leads you to think I want different things?
    Never said anything about your own game attendance. My main concern on this and all supporter related issues (ticket allocations and games being moved) is always with those who go and who should always be the number one priority 
    Mine too.  It seemed to me that you are implying I dont share that concern, or that people who are or have been CAST board members dont.  If that wasn’t your intention, then fine, lets call it a day on that - and lets all agree that we can’t allow what happened yesterday to happen again. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung
    Did any of the Charlton fans who were mouthing off behind the locked gates, (and bizarrely aiming kicks at the Millwall scum) get a slap when the gates came open ? 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    PragueAddick said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Millwall will not give us the lower stand when we play there later in the season. 
    So it only seems fair that we do not give them the whole of the Jimmy Seed stand next season. 
    Give them 2k tickets instead of 3k tickets, have a police presence in the stand and keep them back for 30 minutes after the game instead of all the nonsense yesterday. 
    I agree. But that will cost the club. So make up for that by charging them 30% more as Southampton are doing with Pompey. That might trigger a response from the Millwall club re prices - but then I’d expect we have a good relationship at board level, with Kav being their CEO. Millwall do have to own this problem more than they do. Kav knows perfectly well that other clubs will bring 3k to the Valley this season and none of the nonsense we saw yesterday will happen.
    Steve Kavanagh or Kav to some left a long time ago.

    In the same way Mick Everitt still works at Charlton despite people saying he has left us
    About one day a week, I believe. He is matchday safety officer but he isn’t in charge of operations and hasn’t been for many years. And his name is Everett!
    But he has not left unlike what was claimed by those in the know on Friday
    You mean me, so why not say so?. And I wasnt  “in the know” obviously. So what? So Kav is no longer there. Does it mean that suddenly the two clubs have declared all out war on each other? All I was suggesting (not “claiming”) is that if the club wanted to do it with Millwall like Saints are doing with Pompey they could hike the prices but try to persuade Millwall that its the only fair way to keep their lout element under control. What the fuck is wrong with suggesting that on here? Got any better ideas?
    I have lots of ideas which I have already shared.

    I was simply pointing out you was wrong that 'Kav' is no longer employed there when you were claiming he was and we should go to him.

    As for "MickE" you were not the only one to make that error. But happy to clarify you were also wrong on that.

    As for in the know, on Friday you were quite rightly furious with the arrangements. After the game yesterday you said you had spoken to someone senior and was saying their was nothing the club could do in terms of letting supporters know, which to me felt like a gear shift. I disagree with with that idea, but I have not spoken to anyone senior as I'm not in the know, just an ordinary go to game supporter.,who wants the best for all our go to game supporters

    Perhaps I should have made more clear whom I spoke to. A fan who is generally well in touch with what’s going on inside the club, whom I trust. Not a club employee, senior or otherwise. It was my own interpretation that it would have left the club with little or no chance to get the info out. On further reflection they probably could and should have done more; but I still strongly believe that they should never have been put in that position by the police, and this should not happen again.

    As for your last sentence, sure I’m not a go to game supporter, I’m a go to a game whenever I am over supporter. But I’m also 71, and while I can’t claim to have been home and away every game, ever, I’ve been away in the years when it wasn’t easy, chased out of Mansfield, sitting in a football special leaving Barnsley with sheets over the windows because of regular bricking attacks, among other memories. So of course I want the best for all our go to game supporters too. What leads you to think I want different things?
    Never said anything about your own game attendance. My main concern on this and all supporter related issues (ticket allocations and games being moved) is always with those who go and who should always be the number one priority 
    Mine too.  It seemed to me that you are implying I dont share that concern, or that people who are or have been CAST board members dont.  If that wasn’t your intention, then fine, lets call it a day on that - and lets all agree that we can’t allow what happened yesterday to happen again. 
    I'm so not implying that.
  • 2121
    2121
    Would reducing allocation fix anything? Its only about 50-100 of 3,000 that are causing trouble (or so it looks)
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick
    2121 said:
    Would reducing allocation fix anything? Its only about 50-100 of 3,000 that are causing trouble (or so it looks)
    Reducing the allocation would surely make them more manageable plus keeping 1,500 back is more feasible than keeping 3,000 back, although that really shouldn’t be an issue.

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