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Matchday policing issues thread (Millwall 2025 onwards)

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  • Special mention today for the police driving their vans through a massed crowd of charlton fans that had been blocked off from entering the station. Their whole operation seemed a complete shambles today
  • Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    Good luck with that one.
  • I hope the club tell the OB, we tried it your way, it didn’t work. Next time we’ll keep them in after the game.
    It’s not the club’s decision to make. 
    Well, today showed that the OB are incapable of making a decision that works.
  • I got the 177 from Plumstead. Met my wife, who walked, outside the club shop. Went in and at the end left. Walked with thousands up to Maryon Wilson Park. Got the bus, went to the Herbert and then for a curry. Home at 8.
    My only issue that the way to the bus on the lower road was blocked by plod.
    Im lucky I guess.
  • edited September 13
    How was it at the level crossing anyone know? I got through Ransom Walk as police were letting everyone through by the time I got there, despite initially advertising it was only for those unable to go on the hike via the crossing. I think if they hadn't it was getting dangerously congested outside the club shop. The exit gate to the left of the club shop was held shut by stewards, adding to the pressure on the main route out if the west stand and into Harvey Gardens, even with Ransom Walk then open.
  • I’d like to know why they’re so overzealous with their tactics against football supporters - getting fully kitted out in riot gear with batons drawn - only to end up making a couple of arrests for being drunk, throwing the odd punch or not walking the permitted route. While facing having to make hundreds of arrests for drugs, sexual assaults, rapes, stabbings, and even the occasional murder at Carnival, wearing rainbow coloured sunglasses?
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  • Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    None of this is the clubs fault. Apparently. That gate was adequately manned. No blame must be attached to the club. Apparently.

    I mean, the people in that stand are apparently so dangerous that 20,000 of your own fans need to be inconvenience for their own safety, but you man the gate with a couple of minimum wage stewards.

    I'm totally sick of these c*nts turning up and us rolling out the fucking red carpet for them, with a VIP lane back to the train station. Totally embarrassing.

    Gotta to say fair play to the 2 stewards there on  their own.  Fuck that for minimum wage poor fellas.
    Agreed, and for the record I certainly wasn't having a pop at them. Blokes deserve a bonus. They don't get paid for that.
    Didn't think you were mate. 
  • iainment said:
    I got the 177 from Plumstead. Met my wife, who walked, outside the club shop. Went in and at the end left. Walked with thousands up to Maryon Wilson Park. Got the bus, went to the Herbert and then for a curry. Home at 8.
    My only issue that the way to the bus on the lower road was blocked by plod.
    Im lucky I guess.
    Wouldve been a bit of a problem if 20000 people followed your excellent example though.
  • Gribbo said:
    iainment said:
    I got the 177 from Plumstead. Met my wife, who walked, outside the club shop. Went in and at the end left. Walked with thousands up to Maryon Wilson Park. Got the bus, went to the Herbert and then for a curry. Home at 8.
    My only issue that the way to the bus on the lower road was blocked by plod.
    Im lucky I guess.
    Wouldve been a bit of a problem if 20000 people followed your excellent example though.
    Would certainly need to push a few tables together in the curry house.
    Stick a couple on the roof of the 177
  • Just give em the top tier of the JS stand and net off the lower - that’s all we get at their shit hole, 1,500 max and lock them in for an hour after.

    if they smash it up, so be it - it needs sorting out anyway - and their owner can pay for it 
    They could also be made to come by coach if there really is a need to get them out of the ground asap.

    20 coaches with 75 fans on equates to 1,500. Set them all off from The Den or wherever there pick up points are for away games.
  • shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 

    Perhaps we should run a poll on that?
  • shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 

    Perhaps we should run a poll on that?
    Which goes in the bin when it turns out to be not the way the majority wants it to go 
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  • shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
  • fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
    Your usual answer Fen. You got a problem me bringing this up then?

    Another day tomorrow and things will be in place then
  • fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
    What, and get shouted down for it by the other members who prefer the cosy bosom the club currently provide?
  • shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
    Your usual answer Fen. You got a problem me bringing this up then?

    Another day tomorrow and things will be in place then
    No problem with it at all. But I don't think there's any harm in pointing out that those who criticise the Trust have the option of doing something about it. Obviously there are reasons why people might choose or not be able to but it's easy to criticise, hard to act. 
  • fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
    Your usual answer Fen. You got a problem me bringing this up then?

    Another day tomorrow and things will be in place then
    No problem with it at all. But I don't think there's any harm in pointing out that those who criticise the Trust have the option of doing something about it. Obviously there are reasons why people might choose or not be able to but it's easy to criticise, hard to act. 
    Seen and noted Fen

    As Shaw Taylor would say, Keep em peeled
  • The only problem at the level crossing was due to  plod allowing cars.to try a negotiate a way through crowds of fans walking down the road. In fact the only aggro I saw was two motorist, having an altercation, one going towards the the level crossing and one coming up the hill they sat there shouting at one another as there was no room to pass with parked cars on either side of the road. The plod should have closed the road. 
  • sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    Can people please email photos and first hand evidence to secretary@castrust.org and we will compile and raise with the club. Thank you. (Doesn’t matter if you’re a member or not)
    You do realise that some people might think what's the point in involving the Trust in anything now, don't you? I've always been a supporter, but that response to the announced restrictions before the game was just a joke. I thought the idea of a members organisation was to stand up for and protect the interests of its members , as uncomfortable as that may be for those who may have cosy little relationships with the club.
    They are too close to the club these days to say anything to upset them. The club have them exactly where they want them 
    Unfortunately, this very much seems to be the case. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
    In fairness the pair of fans advisors silence has been noted as well 
    As ever, you could always stand to join the board and make any changes you wish 
    What, and get shouted down for it by the other members who prefer the cosy bosom the club currently provide?
    Or you could have a debate, challenge the decisions made and potentially improve things. Nominations are being sought now, the make up of the board could be completely different by the end of the year if people actually applied
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