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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Leicester City: Saturday 23rd August 2025: KO 12:30pm
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He’s not Welsh…..he’s very much English and studying at Aberystwyth University.shirty5 said:
Goals will come squire, Keep the faith my little Welsh friendAberystwythAddick said:
By not scoring?shirty5 said:Play like that every game and you win more than you lose.Keep the faith
He’s also the son of one of CL’s all time most loved posters who passed away a while back and is very much missed.2 -
Just rewatched the entire game on Sky (after attending earlier).
The best I've seen us play for an entire game for some time.
A mixture of bad luck, excellent blocks and lacking some finesse in the final pass or attempt at goal. The type that Berry or Godden would deliver last season.
CC and TC missed very straightforward headers, looking back.11 -
Frustrating and unlucky, a lot of good performances from some of the usual suspects but in particular Docherty who I’ve written off was great, and Leaburn was so much improved on Kelman
crazy how different the experience is at this level, by which I more mean the crowd and dynamic around the stadium, compared to what we’ve been used to. Here’s to many more 20k+ crowds !!1 -
What was the attendance?
Edit. 22k. Just checked.1 -
What was today’s attendance?1
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Whatever the bad luck, referees etc, the fact is we've scored one goal in three games. We should have scored earlier against Watford and should have scored against Bristol and Leicester. But we didn't take our chances. Not panicking or feeling negative because at least we're creating chances. But this is a tough league full of teams that can take one chance like Leicester did today. And we're going to make it tougher on ourselves if our final third doesn't improve somewhat. I believe we have enough to survive, but our attack is a deficiency that has to be sorted. Still better than watching League 1 dross though.2
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Only two clubs on one goal conceded. Us and second place.ShootersHillGuru said:Have been concerned that if we go behind in games we’ll struggle to get back into it and so it transpired. Three games one goal isn’t going to be good enough. Only three clubs on one goal. Us and bottom two.12 -
A game where we did everything right but score. Without doubt the better team which in itself is a massive statement we will be absolutely fine this season we just need that bit of cutting edge up top I think NJ will keep a settled team and not change anything but personally I would try to get Tanto into the mix from the start1
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The TC miss really is a bad one when you watch it back. I haven't reseen Coventry's_uptheaddicks said:Just rewatched the entire game on Sky (after attending earlier).
The best I've seen us play for an entire game for some time.
A mixture of bad luck, excellent blocks and lacking some finesse in the final pass or attempt at goal. The type that Berry or Godden would deliver last season.
CC and TC missed very straightforward headers, looking back.1 -
I’m not trying to say anything about what should’ve happened and rewrite history. Most teams will go through streaks - we are going through a dry streak at the minute.SheedyCAFC said:
Stats can be deceiving though because honestly I feel like today we unfortunately just come up against a brick wall of a goalkeeper who was never gonna concedeCallumcafc said:Our current “shot conversion rate” after three games is 2.5% (40 shots taken, 1 goal).
The lowest rate across all 24 teams last season was 8.4%. The season before it was 7.8%. We could have scored 3 from 3 and still be behind the lowest rate across 48 teams the last two years.
It’d have to be going some to continue to scoring at such a pitiful rate. The chances will start turning into goals soon.
Equal to the last three games where our 40 shots converting to 1 goals is three times worse than the worst season average, we can expect periods between now and May where we’ll go above average a score 5 or 6 times from 40 shots, bringing us closer to the middle.
Over 3 games, it’s not that surprising to go hot or cold but over 46 it would be extremely surprising.2 - Sponsored links:
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Dominated them second half and brilliant as a team in the press and defensively, but couldn’t score. Leaburn and Campbell missed great chances, which is a worry going forward. Looking tame up front without Godden. But early days.0
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I have seen a lot of comments/posts saying we were the better team now as the day has gone on. Sure, we got stuck in and had one of those chances gone in it might have been a different story. However, I’m not having it that we were hard done by and ‘the better team’. Leicester showed us what a bit of individual brilliance can deliver and had we come away winning 1-0 in a similar manner, we’d have been happy to be laying plaudits at the team’s door.
We fought hard, were unlucky not to see one of our chances go in, but if we want a realistic assessment of the game, we couldn’t find the quality in the final third to score. I don’t doubt that it’s there over the course of the season, but we had a wake up call today about the size of the task in this division, and we fell short.I am confident we’ll put it right against QPR, but I’m not buying the ‘totally dominant, we were robbed rhetoric’9 -
What was that object on the pitch in the first half that Nathan Jones ended up taking off anyway?2
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What?! We were insanely unlucky, had a goalcarly burn said:
You could have Jimmy Greaves and Marco van Bastens Love child up top and I reckon they'd struggle to score in this set up!Valleysarr said:Never looked like scoring !
Need a decent striker - going to be a long season …
disallowed, a brilliant shot from distance saved, a header saved on the line somehow and their keeper was the MOTM.2 -
A birthday balloon I thinkSheedyCAFC said:What was that object on the pitch in the first half that Nathan Jones ended up taking off anyway?0 -
No shame in that. At this level you're going to get players who can finish like that.
As an actual team we were better than Leicester.5 -
Karim_myBagheri said:
A birthday balloon I thinkSheedyCAFC said:What was that object on the pitch in the first half that Nathan Jones ended up taking off anyway?The bird stole the show tho!6 -
Carlo over-rated? Behave. I think your namesake would have played with the big man and probably got quite a few goals as a partnership.jimmymelrose said:
I think there’s confusion here. Leaburn wins lots of balls but he often does so without even jumping. If he jumped well then he’d get more of a downward header and/or more controlled header. I find him quite frustrating in this respect.crookester said:
Seriously? He won nearly everything in the air.golfaddick said:
I must have watched a different game as I didnt see Leaburn win much in the air at all. Expect more in the air from someone supposedly 6ft 6.Chunes said:We win that 3 - 0 on another day. I feel frustrated with the result but not the team because everyone played well. Leaburn was imperious and won everything in the air, Doch and Cov responded to criticism with two outstanding performances, Jones was excellent and would make a decent striker at a lower level... everyone was good.
(I will say, having defended Kelman recently, he annoyed me today. He came on with fresh legs and walked around the pitch).
And while we do have a lot of athleticism in the final third, we're lacking class and quality. We have a tendency to panic and snatch at things.
But I can't be displeased because if we keep playing like that, we'll do well.
For all those who big him up: what are his assist and goal statistics. Just like his Dad he is so overrated by our general support base.
Mendonca quoted saying Leaburn the best forward he played with.2 -
Completely agree. Passing is woeful. Didn't want to take his man on today. Doesn't look like scoring or assisting.king addick said:Imagine I'll get backlash but TC needs to be dropped. No end product and lightweight. Tanto come on and showed more.
However I really do believe he can be a great impact sub off the bench.2 - Sponsored links:
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He's so integral to the team, available for a pass, taking on oppo players, tracking back, tackling, drawing players away, making space. Mostly in forward positons as an out ball or to keep a press on. Do those of you criticising just want goals, and can't see the rest of what he does?charltonman2016 said:
Completely agree. Passing is woeful. Didn't want to take his man on today. Doesn't look like scoring or assisting.king addick said:Imagine I'll get backlash but TC needs to be dropped. No end product and lightweight. Tanto come on and showed more.
However I really do believe he can be a great impact sub off the bench.11 -
Quite right and he was up against a tough opponent today.swords_alive said:
He's so integral to the team, available for a pass, taking on oppo players, tracking back, tackling, drawing players away, making space. Mostly in forward positons as an out ball or to keep a press on. Do those of you criticising just want goals, and can't see the rest of what he does?charltonman2016 said:
Completely agree. Passing is woeful. Didn't want to take his man on today. Doesn't look like scoring or assisting.king addick said:Imagine I'll get backlash but TC needs to be dropped. No end product and lightweight. Tanto come on and showed more.
However I really do believe he can be a great impact sub off the bench.
Yes, we know he has to improve aspects of his game and that is the challenge for him.
But people trying to bin him off already, we're only 3 games in ffs7 -
To be fair, doing the most basic parts of the job shouldn't make him undroppable. I'd also disagree that he takes players on. That's a big part of the problem people have with him.swords_alive said:
He's so integral to the team, available for a pass, taking on oppo players, tracking back, tackling, drawing players away, making space. Mostly in forward positons as an out ball or to keep a press on. Do those of you criticising just want goals, and can't see the rest of what he does?charltonman2016 said:
Completely agree. Passing is woeful. Didn't want to take his man on today. Doesn't look like scoring or assisting.king addick said:Imagine I'll get backlash but TC needs to be dropped. No end product and lightweight. Tanto come on and showed more.
However I really do believe he can be a great impact sub off the bench.
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No one is saying he's undroppable, just that his importance is under estimated. I'd love to see stats for taking players on but I can't find any, I think he tries it more often than others think. He's also smart enough to know there's no point taking your player on down the wing if there's no one in the box to cross it to. It's better to recycle and find a better way throughCroydon said:
To be fair, doing the most basic parts of the job shouldn't make him undroppable. I'd also disagree that he takes players on. That's a big part of the problem people have with him.swords_alive said:
He's so integral to the team, available for a pass, taking on oppo players, tracking back, tackling, drawing players away, making space. Mostly in forward positons as an out ball or to keep a press on. Do those of you criticising just want goals, and can't see the rest of what he does?charltonman2016 said:
Completely agree. Passing is woeful. Didn't want to take his man on today. Doesn't look like scoring or assisting.king addick said:Imagine I'll get backlash but TC needs to be dropped. No end product and lightweight. Tanto come on and showed more.
However I really do believe he can be a great impact sub off the bench.4 -
Although that's the worry - if we couldn't win when we played well and they didn't, what happens when teams do play well?swordfish said:
Rest assured, you're not alone feeling disappointed that we lost. Everyone is. You may be alone if you couldn't see anything positive in the performance though.AberystwythAddick said:
By not scoring?shirty5 said:Play like that every game and you win more than you lose.Keep the faith
Sometimes a better sign that you win even when not playing well.0 -
Was like it all game. Looked like he'd rather be tidying his room.O-Randy-Hunt said:Special mention to the AC stand ball boy who just couldn't be bothered to get off his arse and get the ball back to our players when we are pushing for an equaliser.0 -
Watching today I saw a massive gap in midfield ball getting played through the centre circle all game and if Godden was playing he would have bagged at least a hatty0
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I want to see more of Tanto - he looks like he's chomping at the bit to get into the team I also think Rankin Costello looked very neat and tidy.
Early goal against QPR and we'll win.
How much more fun is it against proper football clubs.
This team know what they can do.
This manager is 💯 capable and will make the adjustments necessary.
We hadn't solved the goal scoring yet - but we will and when we do we will be a solid mid table champ side.
Get it really purring and we might even be a bit more.21 -
It felt strange to feel happy after defeat, I genuinely thought that we played very well and were the better side. On that showing we have nothing to worry about this season.6
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RoanRedNY said:
He won some headers/knock ons and had one header on target that the keeper saved.crookester said:
Indeed, no headers at goal that I recall. I'm referring to when balls were launched forward in the air, he won most of these and did flick them on or hold the ball up to bring others into play. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.golfaddick said:
Did he ?? Didnt get a header on or off target or flick a ball on for a someone to run onto.crookester said:
Seriously? He won nearly everything in the air.golfaddick said:
I must have watched a different game as I didnt see Leaburn win much in the air at all. Expect more in the air from someone supposedly 6ft 6.Chunes said:We win that 3 - 0 on another day. I feel frustrated with the result but not the team because everyone played well. Leaburn was imperious and won everything in the air, Doch and Cov responded to criticism with two outstanding performances, Jones was excellent and would make a decent striker at a lower level... everyone was good.
(I will say, having defended Kelman recently, he annoyed me today. He came on with fresh legs and walked around the pitch).
And while we do have a lot of athleticism in the final third, we're lacking class and quality. We have a tendency to panic and snatch at things.
But I can't be displeased because if we keep playing like that, we'll do well.The saved header is at roughly 1:45 here:Also, TC would have had an assist if Coventry's wonder strike had gone in.2
