Our performance in terms of results in the last 9 months is bound to create interest from other clubs and that will naturally lead to key members of staff receiving offers as others have said it’s the price of success
Optimistic part of brain- just a coincidence and if any one of the 3 recently announced departures wasn't happening there's probably be nothing much to see here. Thanks to all, now onwards and upwards.
Negative side- new arrivals causing discord in the camp, probably the Blackpool duo and Kelman as his heart is probably still at Orient.
3 key backroom staff gone/going in quick succession, who each made a notable difference. Standards have been so high of late, they'll be big shoes to fill.
What we don't know is to what extent the upturn in performance in those areas (fitness and set pieces) was down to the individual staff involved being superior vs the fact we simply finally had someone filling those roles, full stop. For years we had not had the money invested into backroom staff to focus on specific, but important, roles like that so it stands to reason (although never guaranteed) that you should see some improvements once you have someone dedicated to and accountable for delivering such improvements. Now, it could be that they were both exceptionally good at their jobs and whoever their replacements are can't live up to their standards. Equally, other clubs have people in these roles doing a good job so it shouldn't be impossible to appoint competent replacements. Time will tell if standards drop, are maintained, or potentially even improve further as a result of the changes in staff.
Tracey, of course, was here throughout the crap years and had predecessors. I think we can say, definitively, that she has been very good at her job and will be a tough act to follow. But again, doesn't mean her replacement will be no good and maybe they will even find ways to build further on what Tracey has established.
Change brings opportunity as well as risk.
If disagreements with NJ are part of the reason, well conflict at senior positions are normal in organisations and can lead to ways parting over differences of opinions. Doesn't necessarily mean things are "toxic" or anyone has behaved inappropriately, but it is clear that NJ is top dog and has a vision and plan for how to realise it. I think for NJ's methods to work it probably is important that everyone buys in 100% and pulls in the same direction. You have to be careful not to end up with an echo chamber full of yes men, but if some of the backroom team didn't agree with NJ's approach, then it may be healthier overall if they depart and appointments are made that will keep the management team more harmonious.
Our performance in terms of results in the last 9 months is bound to create interest from other clubs and that will naturally lead to key members of staff receiving offers as others have said it’s the price of success
If it came down to money for leaving then we have the option of sorting that out.
A guy in his position can be as important as a player.
Tracey worked at the club during the times of Roland, Southall, Nimer, and the Paul Elliotttt fiasco so i highly doubt she's decided to leave because of NJ when we're the most stable we've been in over a decade.
And Abbott i suspect has simply been offered a much better paid role elsewhere.
Phew... Was beginning to worry that this Summer was going to be far too good as a Charlton supporter... But Byrne, Tracey and Abbott leaving is the true, sharp kick in the bollocks that we've been waiting for. Being a fan of this club never fails to disappoint.
Both Tracey Leaburn and Will Abbots departures were down to one man. You could call it professional differences . Don’t shoot me, I have this from somebody at the Club.
I'll say it is Nathan Jones, should you be correct. Am I too far off the mark?
I could imagine that someone in Will Abbott's role could come into conflict with a manager. I think that happens quite a lot. But from what I know of Tracey's role, I can't see how her work would cause a big issue for NJ.
Tracey was the one organising group trips to Bluewater Costa
Both Tracey Leaburn and Will Abbots departures were down to one man. You could call it professional differences . Don’t shoot me, I have this from somebody at the Club.
I'll say it is Nathan Jones, should you be correct. Am I too far off the mark?
I could imagine that someone in Will Abbott's role could come into conflict with a manager. I think that happens quite a lot. But from what I know of Tracey's role, I can't see how her work would cause a big issue for NJ.
Tracey was the one organising group trips to Bluewater Costa
Bit gutted to miss out on that, I do like a strawberry frappe!
I always felt he was a bit over hyped..we paid proper money for a proper fitness / performance head. Pay proper money again and we will get someone comparable. But good luck Will as he clearly did an excellent job for us.
Tracey worked at the club during the times of Roland, Southall, Nimer, and the Paul Elliotttt fiasco so i highly doubt she's decided to leave because of NJ when we're the most stable we've been in over a decade.
And Abbott i suspect has simply been offered a much better paid role elsewhere.
I had hoped that too. However, no such move has been announced, and I didn't like how Rodwell "explained' the departure on Charlton TV. Stank of office politics.
Once again, headhunter 101: Any idiot can fire people. Replacing them with better people is much, much harder.
Tracey worked at the club during the times of Roland, Southall, Nimer, and the Paul Elliotttt fiasco so i highly doubt she's decided to leave because of NJ when we're the most stable we've been in over a decade.
And Abbott i suspect has simply been offered a much better paid role elsewhere.
I had hoped that too. However, no such move has been announced, and I didn't like how Rodwell "explained' the departure on Charlton TV. Stank of office politics.
Once again, headhunter 101: Any idiot can fire people. Replacing them with better people is much, much harder.
As I've found myself agreeing more than usual recently, " ain't that the truth !"
Tracey worked at the club during the times of Roland, Southall, Nimer, and the Paul Elliotttt fiasco so i highly doubt she's decided to leave because of NJ when we're the most stable we've been in over a decade.
And Abbott i suspect has simply been offered a much better paid role elsewhere.
That’s far too sensible.
FWIW I think Tracey and Will have run off together and are starting a new life downunder.
And just when it was all going so well. I don’t think it is easy to find a replacement for someone who has helped build a culture of success at SL. Hopefully they can get the right person in.
I think from memory, ( I maybe wrong, can’t rember where!) he lived a long way away, would make a difference, if he had a long commute, and maybe not sustainable long term.
I did ask him, how long it typically takes, to do a medical, when we sign a player, as fans get impatient, etc, he said about 3 hours, as an average, although I guess it depends on their medical history.
There is this weird love affair with him on this forum. I don’t doubt he was good at his job but he is a sport performance guy. There are some on here who saw Aneke stay relatively healthy for a ten game stretch and somehow equated Dr Will with being involved with everything that went well last year including scouting whether a potential player would be injured to our propensity to score late in matches. It really was a little bizarre
So why did Will Abbott and Tracey fall out with NJ ? raytreacy is a respected and positive poster so there’s no way he’s making this up. As long as the results keep coming a blind eye to the lunatic will happily be done , if we hit a rocky road though (hopefully failure to win the Champions League final in ten years time ) the heat will increase more than normal
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At the same time though, its the kind of role which if you offer the right salary, we should be able to replace.
Negative side- new arrivals causing discord in the camp, probably the Blackpool duo and Kelman as his heart is probably still at Orient.
Tracey, of course, was here throughout the crap years and had predecessors. I think we can say, definitively, that she has been very good at her job and will be a tough act to follow. But again, doesn't mean her replacement will be no good and maybe they will even find ways to build further on what Tracey has established.
Change brings opportunity as well as risk.
If disagreements with NJ are part of the reason, well conflict at senior positions are normal in organisations and can lead to ways parting over differences of opinions. Doesn't necessarily mean things are "toxic" or anyone has behaved inappropriately, but it is clear that NJ is top dog and has a vision and plan for how to realise it. I think for NJ's methods to work it probably is important that everyone buys in 100% and pulls in the same direction. You have to be careful not to end up with an echo chamber full of yes men, but if some of the backroom team didn't agree with NJ's approach, then it may be healthier overall if they depart and appointments are made that will keep the management team more harmonious.
While he delivers the results we want, it's his way or the highway I would imagine.
A guy in his position can be as important as a player.
And Abbott i suspect has simply been offered a much better paid role elsewhere.
But good luck Will as he clearly did an excellent job for us.
Once again, headhunter 101: Any idiot can fire people. Replacing them with better people is much, much harder.
Is there a common denominator here ?
FWIW I think Tracey and Will have run off together and are starting a new life downunder.
I don’t think it is easy to find a replacement for someone who has helped build a culture of success at SL.
Hopefully they can get the right person in.
I did ask him, how long it typically takes, to do a medical, when we sign a player, as fans get impatient, etc, he said about 3 hours, as an average, although I guess it depends on their medical history.
raytreacy is a respected and positive poster so there’s no way he’s making this up.
As long as the results keep coming a blind eye to the lunatic will happily be done , if we hit a rocky road though (hopefully failure to win the Champions League final in ten years time ) the heat will increase more than normal